This test line up is rubbish.

[rkt.india]

17 hours ago, crictime said:

Exactly my point about Rishabh Pant being second best in team inspite of being a wicket keeper. What stops the other 5 specialist batsmen except Yashasvi Jaiswal to fill up the gap in averages between (52 iirc) and whatever Rishabh Pant is at.

 

Certainly if Yashasvi Jaiswal can score at avg 52 then why are other specialist batsmen struggling around 40 or below.

Jaiswal and pant both are benefitted by being left handers. Most team teams play left arm spinners and leg spinners which are easier to face for left handers on turning tracks. Left handers do have their advantages if they are good. Not many bowlers bowl well against left handers. 

[rkt.india]

17 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

And Pant played in that poor pitch era and still averages 44+.

Pant is a left hander. Very few bowlers bowl well to left handers. Most teams play left arm spinners and leg spinners who easier to face for left handers.

[crictime]

13 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Jaiswal and pant both are benefitted by being left handers. Most team teams play left arm spinners and leg spinners which are easier to face for left handers on turning tracks. Left handers do have their advantages if they are good. Not many bowlers bowl well against left handers. 

Imo there is nothing like only a left handed batsman will average significantly more than right handed ones or vice versa.  A good batsman will have a good average.

[rkt.india]

11 minutes ago, crictime said:

Imo there is nothing like only a left handed batsman will average significantly more than right handed ones or vice versa.  A good batsman will have a good average.

On a turning track facing a left arm spinner who is supposed bat better? Right hander or left hander. It's simple logic. Even generally, many fast bowlers too don't bowl that well to left handers. For example , Pat Cummins. His stats against lefties and righties are completely different.

[Trichromatic]

48 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Jaiswal and pant both are benefitted by being left handers. Most team teams play left arm spinners and leg spinners which are easier to face for left handers on turning tracks. Left handers do have their advantages if they are good. Not many bowlers bowl well against left handers. 

 

Even Jadeja also.

[rkt.india]

6 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

Even Jadeja also.

Yes

[New guy]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Pant is a left hander. Very few bowlers bowl well to left handers. Most teams play left arm spinners and leg spinners who easier to face for left handers.

Can you show numbers to back up your point. Its easy to claim because you "feel" somthing, doesn't make it true.

 

The big 3 of Kane, Root and Smith are all right handers.

 

Pant's audicious range of shots contribute to his success, which right hande rin the team tries those shots or has that range? 

Edited Saturday at 04:57 AM by New guy

[crictime]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

On a turning track facing a left arm spinner who is supposed bat better? Right hander or left hander. It's simple logic. Even generally, many fast bowlers too don't bowl that well to left handers. For example , Pat Cummins. His stats against lefties and righties are completely different.

 

There is no simple logic  in the statement that it is easy for left handed batsmen to score runs than right handed ones.  Rather than logic, it is perception or an opinion but not a fact.

 

[rkt.india]

6 hours ago, New guy said:

Can you show numbers to back up your point. Its easy to claim because you "feel" somthing, doesn't make it true.

 

The big 3 of Kane, Root and Smith are all right handers.

 

Pant's audicious range of shots contribute to his success, which right hande rin the team tries those shots or has that range? 

Jadeja has no such shots, he still is one of the most successful indian batter in the last five years and batting isn't even his strongest suite.

 

Kane, root, Smith are right handers yes, but even generally there are more right hand batsmen in the world. So more chances of finding great right hand batsmen than great left handers. 

 

In the current XI, you have 8 right handers, 3 left handers. So that's the usual ratio. On spinning tracks, you need good off spinner against them because left arm spinners and leg spinners are easier for them to face.

 

I am not saying every left hander will be good. He has to be a good batsman too. 

[putrevus]

8 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Pant is a left hander. Very few bowlers bowl well to left handers. Most teams play left arm spinners and leg spinners who easier to face for left handers.

So how is that his fault.He has ability to score runs on any wicket.

[Sooda]

This is still true

 

One unfortunate downside of the win is that is justifies GGs bits and pieces strategy in his own mind

[cricspirit]

Rubbish line up scored 1000 runs and took 20 wickets to seal a historic win..

 

[Lord]

6 hours ago, Sooda said:

This is still true

 

One unfortunate downside of the win is that is justifies GGs bits and pieces strategy in his own mind

Or you were just owned

[Sooda]

2 hours ago, cricspirit said:

Rubbish line up scored 1000 runs and took 20 wickets to seal a historic win..

 

 

Please tell me what Nitish Reddy contributed to this win. 

[Sooda]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

Or you were just owned

 

Nope 

 

We won despite and not because of the balance of the team

 

We will never know of course what (say) Sai and Kuldeep in for NKR and Washington would have done to the team

[Sooda]

On 7/2/2025 at 4:11 PM, Lord said:

Gambhir has to go. This is beyond stupid

 

Were you owned as well :-) ?

[Lord]

9 minutes ago, Sooda said:

 

Were you owned as well :-) ?

 

[Serpico]

35 minutes ago, Sooda said:

 

Please tell me what Nitish Reddy contributed to this win. 

So out of 3 bits and pieces players, 2 performed and 1 didn't? Pretty good returns for the strategy. Specialists don't come with a guarantee either 

[Sooda]

45 minutes ago, Serpico said:

So out of 3 bits and pieces players, 2 performed and 1 didn't? Pretty good returns for the strategy. Specialists don't come with a guarantee either 

 

1 hour ago, Sooda said:

 

 

We will never know of course what (say) Sai and Kuldeep in for NKR and Washington would have done to the team

 

Edited Monday at 05:07 AM by Sooda

[Sooda]

46 minutes ago, Serpico said:

So out of 3 bits and pieces players, 2 performed and 1 didn't? Pretty good returns for the strategy. Specialists don't come with a guarantee either 

 

Washington was average with the ball.