Is Siraj the worst tailender in the world right now ?

[vvvslaxman]

Most brainless too. Always wants a single of last ball it doesn't matter if he has Pant at other end.

[jf1gp_1]

Is KL Rahul one of the worst bowler in history of Indian cricket?

 

Captain doesn't even goto him when India is running short of bowler. No wickets nothing. He is lazy and in nets should practice bowling. He should aspire to be shane warne. 

[jf1gp_1]

Maybe I should open a separate thread to discuss bowling of Nair, Rahul, Jaiswal, Gill. Not a single wicket from those 4 is the reason why we lost 1st test. All need to be dropped. 

[Frustrated]

I think the comparison with Sir Viv Richards has gone deep inside his head.  Otherwise he is quite skillful with the bat

[StraightDrive26]

Yesterday last 4 wickets of Australia scored 44 runs between them. Pat Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood and Lyon. That is what Indian tail need to aspire for. If they can contribute 30-45 runs between them, it will be of great help. This will also help them to offer support if they have a batter at the other end and build partnership. Off course the 4 Aussie bowlers I mentioned are much better batters than the Indian tail but the bowlers should also work on their batting and should try and improve. Just slogging is no longer a fashion. In the 70's, 80's and 90's the bowlers just swung their bat as they couldn't hold a bat to save their lives but cricket has changed a lot now.

[Frustrated]

3 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Is KL Rahul one of the worst bowler in history of Indian cricket?

 

Captain doesn't even goto him when India is running short of bowler. No wickets nothing. He is lazy and in nets should practice bowling. He should aspire to be shane warne. 

Baat kuch hajam nahi hui.  

[crictime]

6/70 on a flat wicket. Where a batsman struggling in test cricket scored 260 odd and a wicket keeper scored 184.

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

16 hours ago, StraightDrive26 said:

Yesterday last 4 wickets of Australia scored 44 runs between them. Pat Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood and Lyon. That is what Indian tail need to aspire for. If they can contribute 30-45 runs between them, it will be of great help. This will also help them to offer support if they have a batter at the other end and build partnership. Off course the 4 Aussie bowlers I mentioned are much better batters than the Indian tail but the bowlers should also work on their batting and should try and improve. Just slogging is no longer a fashion. In the 70's, 80's and 90's the bowlers just swung their bat as they couldn't hold a bat to save their lives but cricket has changed a lot now.

 

Not like they are good at fielding as well. They bat and field like walsh. But bowl like mohammad sami

[Lord]

Took a 6fer. That is his main job done well 

[Frustrated]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

Took a 6fer. That is his main job done well 

DSP has justified your current DP to some extent.  Maynot be with the bat. But certainly with the ball.  

[jf1gp_1]

5 hours ago, Lord said:

Took a 6fer. That is his main job done well 

Exactly. I dont understand why we expect a no 11 to bat like a no 7 when not one of our top batter can bowl like a 5th bowler. 

[Number]

54 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Exactly. I dont understand why we expect a no 11 to bat like a no 7 when not one of our top batter can bowl like a 5th bowler. 

This is false equivalence. Bowlers have to bat almost every innings. Batsmen almost never bowl. Expecting bowlers to contribute nothing with the bat is a problem. 

Nobody is expecting him to be a Nitish Reddy but be someone who puts value on his wicket.

[jf1gp_1]

1 hour ago, Number said:

This is false equivalence. Bowlers have to bat almost every innings. Batsmen almost never bowl. Expecting bowlers to contribute nothing with the bat is a problem. 

Nobody is expecting him to be a Nitish Reddy but be someone who puts value on his wicket.

You need bowlers to bat when batters havent done there job properly. Same way i expect batsmen to standup when bowlers are doing a bad job. 

[crictime]

2 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said:

You need bowlers to bat when batters havent done there job properly. Same way i expect batsmen to standup when bowlers are doing a bad job. 

Karun Nair has bowled 12 balls in 7 tests.

 

Shubman Gill has bowled 7 balls in 33 tests.

 

Yashasvi Jaiswal has bowled 6 balls in 20 tests.

KL Rahul has not bowled at all in 59 tests. 

[R!TTER]

5 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Exactly. I dont understand why we expect a no 11 to bat like a no 7 when not one of our top batter can bowl like a 5th bowler. 

Because this *er is a brain dead idiot who bowls well about once every 5-6 innings? And bats "well" every dozen or so 

[jf1gp_1]

47 minutes ago, crictime said:

Karun Nair has bowled 12 balls in 7 tests.

 

Shubman Gill has bowled 7 balls in 33 tests.

 

Yashasvi Jaiswal has bowled 6 balls in 20 tests.

KL Rahul has not bowled at all in 59 tests. 

precisely. all of them put together should atleast get 2 wickets per test before we start expecting 25 runs from Siraj

[crictime]

This is what you get by replacing a specialist bowler with all rounder. 

 

Nitish Reddy scored 2 runs in 2 imnimgs this test and no wicket in ome bowling innings.. He might not even take a wicket in second innings either. 

[crictime]

7 wickets in this test so far. 

[Lord]

3 hours ago, crictime said:

This is what you get by replacing a specialist bowler with all rounder. 

 

Nitish Reddy scored 2 runs in 2 imnimgs this test and no wicket in ome bowling innings.. He might not even take a wicket in second innings either. 

Which specialist bowler did he replace? 

[crictime]

8 hours ago, Lord said:

Which specialist bowler did he replace? 

This was in context of the trend of replacing specialist bowlers with allrounders and including lesser bowlers with better batting skills.

 

The trade-off of 10 - 15 runs more cannot conpensate the wickets that the specialist bowlers take.