Mystery of Prasidh Krishna

[express bowling]

12 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

 

Can't exclude Siraj on giving 100% effort during the game though his fitness discipline is in doubt and hence struggles at times in matches. 

 

Siraj is very good at putting up an act of putting in effort every over. But his

deliveries don't tell the same story.

 

In the last couple of years, Siraj's true effort seems to come in when he is leading the attack or when the new ball is swinging / moving.

 

 

[singhvivek141]

3 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

There can be no remedy to disinterest while playing for India.

 

Sad part is that this part becomes fully clear only after someone plays a few games for India in his best suited format. 

 

Bad performance in the first couple of games could be due to nerves or teething problems. So a little bit of time should be given just after debut.

 

But no slack should be cut for lack of effort from the 3rd test onwards. He should be out even if he performs in the 4th innings. 

 

 

I am ready to give a pacer extra 5-6 tests as well, provided he is young.

Prasidh is already 29...Next Feb he will hit 30. He doesnt have time in his hands, not sure if he realizes it.

 

Akashdeep is just a year younger. Yet he is making an impact with new ball. Even in Australia, when most folks blamed him for poor performance. He actually bowled quite a lot of deliveries which missed the edges, he was indeed unlucky.

 

Harshit would have been a wiser choice. Just 23 and was thrown directly to deep waters in Australia. Tried his best but Australian conditions can be unforgiving to debutants. Umesh, Shami all have leaked runs left, right and center during their first tour to Australia.

[singhvivek141]

6 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Siraj is very good at putting up an act of putting in effort every over. But his

deliveries don't tell the same story.

 

In the last couple of years, Siraj's true effort seems to come in when he is leading the attack or when the new ball is swinging / moving.

 

 

He is a "minimum guy".

Does his bare minimum to stay alive....time is on his favour as except Bumrah there is no pacer in the horizon.

[deepdynamo]

Don't except much from Siraj. He will blow hot and cold, will probably finish at around 175 test wickets with 32 average.

 

Just at par with Umesh Yadav. Nothing more.

[R!TTER]

12 hours ago, Sooda said:

Ishant was very good in the latter part of his career - once he learnt how to pitch the full and get bounce... And that is in fact exactly what Krishna can benefit from learning 

No he wasn't, he was very good in a  bowling friendly era & I can easily find 5 bowlers with better numbers than him in that span! His numbers in India even during his "peak" shows what he really was 

Opposition team Australia  or England  or India  or New Zealand  or Pakistan  or South Africa  or Sri Lanka  or West Indies

On continent Africa  or Americas  or Europe  or Oceania

Start of match date between 1 Jan 2014 and 31 Dec 2019

Type of bowler (by style) pace bowler

Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 50

Ordered by bowling average (ascending)

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
JJ Bumrah (IND)	2018-2019	12	24	451.5	110	1193	62	6/27	9/86	19.24	2.64	43.7	5	0
PJ Cummins (AUS)	2017-2019	24	46	909.5	218	2515	118	6/23	10/62	21.31	2.76	46.2	4	1
JM Anderson (ENG)	2014-2019	51	96	1842.2	534	4676	219	7/42	10/45	21.35	2.53	50.4	12	1
K Rabada (SA)	2016-2019	30	56	1002.2	199	3498	155	7/112	13/144	22.56	3.48	38.8	7	3
VD Philander (SA)	2014-2019	31	58	904.5	253	2369	102	6/21	9/51	23.22	2.61	53.2	4	0
DW Steyn (SA)	2014-2019	16	28	426.2	85	1433	60	6/34	8/99	23.88	3.36	42.6	2	0
N Wagner (NZ)	2014-2019	24	45	926.1	186	2847	117	7/39	9/141	24.33	3.07	47.4	5	0
JR Hazlewood (AUS)	2014-2019	43	80	1613.4	410	4543	179	6/70	9/115	25.37	2.81	54.0	6	0
I Sharma (IND)	2014-2019	24	44	802.4	159	2433	94	7/74	9/162	25.88	3.03	51.2	5	0

 

I'm really fed up with this BS that he was good in latter half of his career - wake up folks it was the pitches/DRS  

[vvvslaxman]

6 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Have you seen his follow through 

yea. That is what i am talking about. I never understand how he ended up with such a poor follow through.

[Frustrated]

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/i-will-buy-prasidh-krishna-a-business-class-ticket-please-come-back-india-pacer-hammered-by-fans-after-horror-outing-101751686740770.html

[Ultimate_Game]

Folks, it's time to cut our losses and get in Kamboj in his place. We get a bowler who can pick wkts with the new ball, someone who can keep things quiet, can be a stock bowler giving support to Bumrah, Akash Deep and Siraj. Plus he's much better with the bat. Get him now and play Bumrah, Siraj, Akash and Kamboj. Replace Nitish Reddy with a batter as it's clear he's not an all-rounder at this level so we may as well play someone who can contribute more.

 

I prefer Kamboj to Arshdeep for two reasons: Kamboj has shown he can bowl plenty of overs and can hold one end up while keeping consistent line & length. We need such a bowler who can allow Bumrah and others to take regular breaks. Plus Kamboj is a much better bat at 8 than Arshdeep. Send piece of shyte Prasidh back home and send a SOS for Kamboj.

 

My team for the next Test:

 

Jaiswal

Rahul

Sai (not convinced with Karun Nair at all)

Gill

Pant

Jurel

Jadeja/Sundar (pick one who can give better support with the ball)

Kamboj (prefer him to Arshdeep as explained above)

Akash Deep

Bumrah (or Arshdeep if Bumrah is rested)

Siraj

 

We need players who show up and not someone to simply make up numbers.

[BacktoCricaddict]

3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

yea. That is what i am talking about. I never understand how he ended up with such a poor follow through.

I wonder if he's playing injured?

[BacktoCricaddict]

Just now, Ultimate_Game said:

Folks, it's time to cut our losses and get in Kamboj in his place. We get a bowler who can pick wkts with the new ball, someone who can keep things quiet, can be a stock bowler giving support to Bumrah, Akash Deep and Siraj. Plus he's much better with the bat. Get him now and play Bumrah, Siraj, Akash and Kamboj. Replace Nitish Reddy with a batter as it's clear he's not an all-rounder at this level so we may as well play someone who can contribute more.

 

I prefer Kamboj to Arshdeep for two reasons: Kamboj has shown he can bowl plenty of overs and can hold one end up while keeping consistent line & length. We need such a bowler who can allow Bumrah and others to take regular breaks. Plus Kamboj is a much better bat at 8 than Arshdeep. Send piece of shyte Prasidh back home and send a SOS for Kamboj.

 

My team for the next Test:

 

Jaiswal

Rahul

Sai (not convinced with Karun Nair at all)

Gill

Pant

Jurel

Jadeja/Sundar (pick one who can give better support with the ball)

Kamboj (prefer him to Arshdeep as explained above)

Akash Deep

Bumrah (or Arshdeep if Bumrah is rested)

Siraj

 

We need players who show up and not someone to simply make up numbers.

Kamboj is not in the squad. Fuhggetaboutit

[Ultimate_Game]

Just now, BacktoCricaddict said:

I wonder if he's playing injured?

 

He was equally shyte on bowlers' paradise in SA as well. Looks like he's always playing injured at intl level. Or maybe he's just shyte and can only pick wkts when batters gift them to him while going for quick runs.

[Ultimate_Game]

1 minute ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Kamboj is not in the squad. Fuhggetaboutit

 

That's where the SOS part comes in. It doesn't take long for someone to fly back to UK, especially when he was already in the A squad.

 

Worse case scenario play Arshdeep. We're left with a pretty long tail but can't help it as we need to pick up 20 wkts.

[BacktoCricaddict]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

That's where the SOS part comes in. It doesn't take long for someone to fly back to UK, especially when he was already in the A squad.

 

That's maybe why I asked if he was playing injured. GG will read this and say "oh why didn't I think of that? I can niggle him out. Simple as that!!"

[Ultimate_Game]

47 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

That's maybe why I asked if he was playing injured. GG will read this and say "oh why didn't I think of that? I can niggle him out. Simple as that!!"

 

There're ways to "niggle" someone out 

[Ultimate_Game]

If we had Akash in place of Prasidh in the first Test, we don't lose it. Bumrah lacked support which Akash would've provided. Prasidh was absolutely useless and serves no purpose at all. Can't bat, can't bowl, can't field. Utterly pathetic, and calling him mediocre would be an insult to mediocre players everywhere.

[Sooda]

11 hours ago, R!TTER said:

No he wasn't, he was very good in a  bowling friendly era & I can easily find 5 bowlers with better numbers than him in that span! His numbers in India even during his "peak" shows what he really was 

Opposition team Australia  or England  or India  or New Zealand  or Pakistan  or South Africa  or Sri Lanka  or West Indies

On continent Africa  or Americas  or Europe  or Oceania

Start of match date between 1 Jan 2014 and 31 Dec 2019

Type of bowler (by style) pace bowler

Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 50

Ordered by bowling average (ascending)

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
JJ Bumrah (IND)	2018-2019	12	24	451.5	110	1193	62	6/27	9/86	19.24	2.64	43.7	5	0
PJ Cummins (AUS)	2017-2019	24	46	909.5	218	2515	118	6/23	10/62	21.31	2.76	46.2	4	1
JM Anderson (ENG)	2014-2019	51	96	1842.2	534	4676	219	7/42	10/45	21.35	2.53	50.4	12	1
K Rabada (SA)	2016-2019	30	56	1002.2	199	3498	155	7/112	13/144	22.56	3.48	38.8	7	3
VD Philander (SA)	2014-2019	31	58	904.5	253	2369	102	6/21	9/51	23.22	2.61	53.2	4	0
DW Steyn (SA)	2014-2019	16	28	426.2	85	1433	60	6/34	8/99	23.88	3.36	42.6	2	0
N Wagner (NZ)	2014-2019	24	45	926.1	186	2847	117	7/39	9/141	24.33	3.07	47.4	5	0
JR Hazlewood (AUS)	2014-2019	43	80	1613.4	410	4543	179	6/70	9/115	25.37	2.81	54.0	6	0
I Sharma (IND)	2014-2019	24	44	802.4	159	2433	94	7/74	9/162	25.88	3.03	51.2	5	0

 

I'm really fed up with this BS that he was good in latter half of his career - wake up folks it was the pitches/DRS  

 

So, you are literally agreeing with me.

 

He did fantastic being in a a top 10 with those other names there. At least 5 ATGs names there and the rest very very good. 

[Lord]

What's with the Kamboj hype? He's also a trundler who moves it slightly. Harshit is much better 

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

What's with the Kamboj hype? He's also a trundler who moves it slightly. Harshit is much better 

Kamboj averaged like 13 or something this season. Prasidh didn't really do anything in first class. Kamboj sticks to line and length like he did with CSK. Has good control.  Rana is also a good variety if Inda wants to groom a very young bowler. 

[Lord]

58 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Kamboj averaged like 13 or something this season. Prasidh didn't really do anything in first class. Kamboj sticks to line and length like he did with CSK. Has good control.  Rana is also a good variety if Inda wants to groom a very young bowler. 

Even Prasidh was great in IPL. Line and length trundlers are not of much use. We already have Mukesh and he's sitting out for a reason 

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

Even Prasidh was great in IPL. Line and length trundlers are not of much use. We already have Mukesh and he's sitting out for a reason 

Kamboj even in the IPL hit trst match

length. Infact boed better tha. Akash deep in the A game against England lions.