singhvivek141 Posted Sunday at 03:45 AM Posted Sunday at 03:45 AM 6 hours ago, Lord said: What's with the Kamboj hype? He's also a trundler who moves it slightly. Harshit is much better There used to be hype of Deepak Chahar as well when he took 8 wkts in his Ranji debut. It all died down. Kamboj clocks 130-135 in IPL...he will clock even slower in Tests as he doesnt have a very refined runup and action. Yeah, he is accurate but thats what trundlers are supposed to be. The way Kamboj is advertised as if he is the incarnation of Richard Hadlee or Shaun Pollock. Lord and express bowling 2
vvvslaxman Posted Sunday at 03:47 AM Posted Sunday at 03:47 AM 1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said: There used to be hype of Deepak Chahar as well when he took 8 wkts in his Ranji debut. It all died down. Kamboj clocks 130-135 in IPL...he will clock even slower in Tests as he doesnt have a very refined runup and action. Yeah, he is accurate but thats what trundlers are supposed to be. The way Kamboj is advertised as if he is the incarnation of Richard Hadlee or Shaun Pollock. Deepak Chahar could have been a good test bowler. But he never showed interest in international cricket after signing of 14 crore IPL deal.
singhvivek141 Posted Sunday at 04:01 AM Posted Sunday at 04:01 AM 8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Deepak Chahar could have been a good test bowler. But he never showed interest in international cricket after signing of 14 crore IPL deal. Coz he got easy money. Most cricketers who come from humble background, are more concerned about wealth generation. Once thats done, they take it easy and dont strive for more. Thats what IPL gives them, loads for money for just 2 months, which they cant recover while playing Test cricket for the whole year. Unless we dont cap the IPL price limit ...nothing is gonna work. Lord 1
Lord Posted Sunday at 05:52 PM Posted Sunday at 05:52 PM 13 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Coz he got easy money. Most cricketers who come from humble background, are more concerned about wealth generation. Once thats done, they take it easy and dont strive for more. Thats what IPL gives them, loads for money for just 2 months, which they cant recover while playing Test cricket for the whole year. Unless we dont cap the IPL price limit ...nothing is gonna work. Pandya is also same. This workload excuse is BS Rightarmfast and express bowling 2
tapandrun Posted Sunday at 06:35 PM Posted Sunday at 06:35 PM (edited) Pradish is no mystery -- this was the only IPL season where he bowled well, rest have been rubbish through-out. He bowls only 1 length which requires high pace bowling near to 145 kmph bracket which he did in this ipl. Whenever he will go away from it he will be bowling chest high nothing bouncers which batters can play anywhere. even his good 2 over spells in odis are those where he bowled near to 145 kmph, he can not do that consistently not in Test not in Odis and not sure if he can do it in T20s. he is very one-dimensional to be good and selected in T20is as top 2 fast bowlers in the team, would Ind pick him as 3rd pacer-- do not think so. The best format for him would be odis but does he have the stamina to bowl 10 overs with such pace ....??? Edited Sunday at 07:21 PM by tapandrun Vk1 and express bowling 2
Suhaan Posted Sunday at 07:14 PM Posted Sunday at 07:14 PM 15 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Unless we dont cap the IPL price limit ...nothing is gonna work. Capping IPL money won't inspire people either,they will find making reels more feasible India regulars will automatically get big money Discards will get lower pay gradually, Prasidh will be unsold in season or two whenever it happens(in next 2 auction cycle),I reckon
mani sha Posted Monday at 03:40 AM Posted Monday at 03:40 AM Very few tall bowlers like prasiddh - bcci thinks he can develop with time . now how much time ? I have seen enuf of this guy to think he needs lots of first class experience to price out wickets - A- tall hot deck but below 143-144 k - those are hit me Balls B- needs to be accurate when slightly slow at 138 like mcgrath . This guy pitch map is so different each game c - needs to crank up pace with tailenders , bowl Yorkers . Chooses to bowl slower ones in tests against tail . overall , he is about two solid seasons behind for test cricket . he is likelly going to be used as a 4-5 th bowler in sena going forward whilst Arshdeep will be developed ( as ars has height , decent pace , left arm and only issue is long spells from what I hear - saw an interview of Arshdeep where he spoke of his relative inexperience in long formats ) harshit too is being kept an eye on . Trust the domestic system - several pacers upcoming including the u19 guy from Maharashtra ( wants to be Jacques kalllis like all rounder )
Serpico Posted Monday at 04:07 AM Posted Monday at 04:07 AM 23 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Coz he got easy money. Most cricketers who come from humble background, are more concerned about wealth generation. Once thats done, they take it easy and dont strive for more. Thats what IPL gives them, loads for money for just 2 months, which they cant recover while playing Test cricket for the whole year. Unless we dont cap the IPL price limit ...nothing is gonna work. Forcing to play test cricket does not work either. Nobody is forcing Bumrah to play tests, he can skip them and play leagues till he's 40 but he has passion and ambition to succeed in all formats even if it cuts his career short. Every single player in our test XI has a lucrative ipl career which means their choice to play tests is out of passion which is what makes them successful. Chahar is a glass body guy with one or two good spells per season, he would have never worked in tests even without Ipl. Hell we already saw the better version of DC in the past (Bhuvi) and he had just one good test series
vishalvirsingh Posted Monday at 07:07 AM Posted Monday at 07:07 AM 3 hours ago, mani sha said: Very few tall bowlers like prasiddh - bcci thinks he can develop with time . now how much time ? I have seen enuf of this guy to think he needs lots of first class experience to price out wickets - A- tall hot deck but below 143-144 k - those are hit me Balls B- needs to be accurate when slightly slow at 138 like mcgrath . This guy pitch map is so different each game c - needs to crank up pace with tailenders , bowl Yorkers . Chooses to bowl slower ones in tests against tail . overall , he is about two solid seasons behind for test cricket . he is likelly going to be used as a 4-5 th bowler in sena going forward whilst Arshdeep will be developed ( as ars has height , decent pace , left arm and only issue is long spells from what I hear - saw an interview of Arshdeep where he spoke of his relative inexperience in long formats ) harshit too is being kept an eye on . Trust the domestic system - several pacers upcoming including the u19 guy from Maharashtra ( wants to be Jacques kalllis like all rounder ) prasidh has to bowl 2 to 3 short balls in an over and 3 full balls with a bit of swing. batsmen is ready to hit a short ball when Prasidh. he has to vary his bowling. express bowling 1
Vk1 Posted Monday at 08:08 AM Posted Monday at 08:08 AM Not sure whether it is the action or wrist position but the ball doesn't seem to swing at all when Prasidh bowls
Stan AF Posted Monday at 08:32 AM Posted Monday at 08:32 AM On 7/6/2025 at 9:31 AM, singhvivek141 said: Coz he got easy money. Most cricketers who come from humble background, are more concerned about wealth generation. Once thats done, they take it easy and dont strive for more. Thats what IPL gives them, loads for money for just 2 months, which they cant recover while playing Test cricket for the whole year. Unless we dont cap the IPL price limit ...nothing is gonna work. Good luck with that. You'll kill the golden goose that is feeding the indian cricket if you go down this line of thinking.
Rightarmfast Posted Monday at 08:37 AM Posted Monday at 08:37 AM People seem to judge a bowler by the skills and pace one has shown in IPL. Bowling 2 overs at a stretch, twice in a match, is very different than bowling the whole day long. Plus the bowling strategy used for T20 is entirely different to what one has to use in Tests. I hope its only the fanboys who are judging all these bowlers based on IPL. Because if the selectors are doing the same, it will be a disaster. Prasidh's IPL success seemed to have fooled many. Kamboj and the rest, unless they perform and bowl at high speeds in longer formats, cannot be guaranteed a seat in test team. Prasidh clearly lacks quick decisions, something that Bumrah is a master of. So, he can't out think the batsmen. He keeps bowling like a workhorse, and that's all that he will be. And I feel sorry for people who kept on writing and hoping that Prasidh will be a success in the test series based on IPL!!! IPL has been spoiling Indian test team for a while now. BacktoCricaddict and diga 2
BacktoCricaddict Posted Monday at 12:08 PM Posted Monday at 12:08 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, Stan AF said: Good luck with that. You'll kill the golden goose that is feeding the indian cricket if you go down this line of thinking. Yep. It's not IPL's job to be a feeder system for India's red ball teams. Instead of hamstringing the IPL, they should make domestic red-ball cricket more lucrative, visible and relevant for Team India selections. Edited Monday at 12:09 PM by BacktoCricaddict Stan AF 1
Rightarmfast Posted Monday at 01:16 PM Posted Monday at 01:16 PM 4 hours ago, Stan AF said: Good luck with that. You'll kill the golden goose that is feeding the indian cricket if you go down this line of thinking. IPL is golden goose for promoters and IPL administrators who are bungling and making sheetloads of money! For many a years, IPL has been dominating and being favored instead of test cricket. They can't have such a long run for IPL, especially when a test series is about to go underway. If the admins are so serious about cricket, and the players, they should put in the same amount of money for all domestic tournaments. And we all know that cricket administration has more than ample money to do that!
putrevus Posted Monday at 01:30 PM Posted Monday at 01:30 PM How many great fast bowlers India produced pre IPL again??? Blaming IPL for everything has become fashion. Guy like Prasidh is no good IPL or no IPL. Stan AF 1
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