Are KL Rahul and Jadeja Match winners?

[Gollum]

2 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said:

What are Stokes' numbers in Australia? Batting and bowling??

Batting average 28, bowling average 40+. Not one impactful performance.

[BacktoCricaddict]

4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Getting out to Bashir was ridiculous. That was an absolute nothing ball. Wonder him running Pant out was still playing on his mind.

Probably. He seems the kind of person who would dwell on things. His mind was probably going all Dr. Rajkumar on him - "Ayyo, yen maaDbiTyo Raahulaa ... adbhutavaagi byaaT maaDuva Rishabhanannu ninna swaarthakkoskara run out maaDbityello paapi ..."

Edited July 15, 2025 by BacktoCricaddict

[urbestfriend]

2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Kela is the reason why we lost in a way. He dropped a catch. Can happen. But Pant's run out is the pivotal moment. In the 2nd innings he got a life. He shoudl have made the most of it. He should have atleast seen off first session. Bottled it. Overall mujrim despite a 100. 

I think you are being too harsh...He scored 39 runs and no one gets out intentionally..But he was scoring off bad balls where as defending good balls..He got a good ball from Stokes. Yes, his nervous ninety caused a runout but this could happen to best of batter including Sachin..

[vvvslaxman]

15 minutes ago, urbestfriend said:

I think you are being too harsh...He scored 39 runs and no one gets out intentionally..But he was scoring off bad balls where as defending good balls..He got a good ball from Stokes. Yes, his nervous ninety caused a runout but this could happen to best of batter including Sachin..

He got a life. Should have capitalized on it atleast to make up for the expensive mistake he made in the first innigns. You have to dig deep and show resoluteness for once as he had just lost Pant. If he can't survive how will others play? HIs job should have been not to expose lower order to archer/stokes.

[kruiser]

Could Jadeja have attacked a little more? Taken a few doubles, hit with more intention? Was he hoping for a miracle to bail us out?

Sorry, contrary to popular opinion, this was a personal stat pad innings for me.

He knew that#10 and 11 can easily perish in even 2 balls he was letting them face each over

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, kruiser said:

Could Jadeja have attacked a little more? Taken a few doubles, hit with more intention? Was he hoping for a miracle to bail us out?

Sorry, contrary to popular opinion, this was a personal stat pad innings for me.

He knew that#10 and 11 can easily perish in even 2 balls he was letting them face each over

 

We were 82/7 game was practically over by then. Any runs we added is due to resolutness of tail enders. You have to trust the tail a bit better if you see them do well. If Jaddu takes a chance with 9 fielders on the boundary he would have gotten out sooner than the tailenders. But for Bumrah's brainfade India could have pushed it even closer may have won it.

[Lord]

47 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Batting average 28, bowling average 40+. Not one impactful performance.

Amazing that spin AR Ashwin and Jaddu have done better in India

[Lord]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Our people are such brown sepoys, make Stokes appear like a God for his okish home performances, all the while undermining Jadeja for his incredible home dominance for over a decade. 

 

Forget India, let Stokes match Jadeja in Australia, a series they hype up so much. 

 

[maniac]

Stokes played an ATG odi innings in the final.

 

Stokes scored a match winning 50 in a tricky chase in WT20 final.

 

Stokes has had impactful performances with both bat and ball in tests.

 

no Jadeja is no where close. On his own a decent utility cricketer but not a match winner.

 

also fielding is one flex Jadeja has because Indian team is filled with poor athletes but man-to-man Stokes is a gun athlete/ Fielder too.

 

for a impact player no one with even  half  a brain will pick Jadeja over Stokes

[devisreeprasadmahesh]

THE ULTIMATE TRUTH

 

These fellows have some serious mental issues. They badly need sports psychologists. Just look at the World Cup final in your own backyard: timid and frightened. Only Pant, Bumrah, or Jaiswal look Australian in this team. The rest are sheeps. Nitish Reddy looks like a tailender with the bat—subdued and terrified. 

Many of them simply lack the mental toughness required for competitive sports. No shortage of talent, but psychological issues. Just facts.

[cricspirit]

3 hours ago, Gollum said:

Our people are such brown sepoys, make Stokes appear like a God for his okish home performances, all the while undermining Jadeja for his incredible home dominance for over a decade. 

 

Forget India, let Stokes match Jadeja in Australia, a series they hype up so much. 

 

 

Jadeja just needs to win something like yesterday match to be hyped by English people. Lords Heroics headline type. 

 

Jadeja body of work is like a marathon runner.. not sexy.  Stokes is like a sprinter. Also You can clearly see Stokes focused on Glory.. he wants to be bowling out the last wicket even if tired.

 

[goose]

at 210/5 he combined with gill at edgbaston to get us on our way to 585 odd. so yes he's a matchwinner

[cricspirit]

45 minutes ago, maniac said:

Stokes played an ATG odi innings in the final.

 

Stokes scored a match winning 50 in a tricky chase in WT20 final.

 

Stokes has had impactful performances with both bat and ball in tests.

 

no Jadeja is no where close. On his own a decent utility cricketer but not a match winner.

 

also fielding is one flex Jadeja has because Indian team is filled with poor athletes but man-to-man Stokes is a gun athlete/ Fielder too.

 

for a impact player no one with even  half  a brain will pick Jadeja over Stokes

 

Impact in how many matches? Without digging, can safely say Jadeja has won more matches than  Stokes. Stokes done some sexxy one man shows.. sure. That's his style. But it doesnt mean people who work hard daily and contribute over a decade are not impactful.

 

Horrible thinking.

[Vancouver]

Jadeja is ATG.

 

KL comes across as selfish, timid. He personifies many Indian stereotypes in the west. Similar level talent Rahane at-least showed guts and took on Mitchell Johnson in Australia. But KL always play safe for his spot and has his cheerleaders in Bollywood. KL looks like Mahela when he bats. but Mahela had hunger for big scores and he was a fierce competitor on the field. Guy scores one 100 a series and then cruises for a season. I will pick a batsman in the mould of Dhawan anyday over KL.

[Lord]

58 minutes ago, maniac said:

Stokes played an ATG odi innings in the final.

 

Stokes scored a match winning 50 in a tricky chase in WT20 final.

 

Stokes has had impactful performances with both bat and ball in tests.

 

no Jadeja is no where close. On his own a decent utility cricketer but not a match winner.

 

also fielding is one flex Jadeja has because Indian team is filled with poor athletes but man-to-man Stokes is a gun athlete/ Fielder too.

 

for a impact player no one with even  half  a brain will pick Jadeja over Stokes

 

Stokes had massive luck in WC Final and Headingley Test. Jadeja's inning in WC 19 semi was every bit as good as Stokes' two days later.

 

FWIW he's won us CT 2013 final too.

 

Stokes is much better in white ball but difference is even bigger in red ball in Jadeja's favour. Saying Jadeja doesn't have impactful performances in Tests is just ignoring his home performance and counting those of Stokes.Guy is literally two players in one at home.

[maniac]

11 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Stokes had massive luck in WC Final and Headingley Test. Jadeja's inning in WC 19 semi was every bit as good as Stokes' two days later.

 

FWIW he's won us CT 2013 final too.

 

Stokes is much better in white ball but difference is even bigger in red ball in Jadeja's favour. Saying Jadeja doesn't have impactful performances in Tests is just ignoring his home performance and counting those of Stokes.Guy is literally two players in one at home.

neither Jadeja has the bowling ability or batting ability to win games on his own. Yes he can make a good contribution. Even in Indian pitches, there was always Ashwin and even Indian seamers who are better in Indian conditons. Having said that he is still took wickets so credit where due. His batting has improved recently but don’t see any heroic knocks in subcontinent either.

 

also cmon Jadeja’s wc 2019 semis, not a single person here thought we will win it and Jadeja will crap it any moment. Yesterday also most felt the same away. That confidence or lack of confidence  comes from his history. Put Stokes in a similar situation, most will have a belief he might pull it off again based on history. Obviously may not happen that way but subconsciously we all know the truth. 
 

no stat manipulation will prove otherwise.

 

both Jadeja and KL are excellent cricketers but they don’t have the winning mentality or the aggression required to be a champion cricketer. That’s why at 30+ no one even thinks of them as leadership options. 
 

they are good players to have in the team but there is always someone better that will come along. Not match winners according to me.

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, maniac said:

Stokes played an ATG odi innings in the final.

 

Stokes scored a match winning 50 in a tricky chase in WT20 final.

 

Stokes has had impactful performances with both bat and ball in tests.

 

no Jadeja is no where close. On his own a decent utility cricketer but not a match winner.

 

also fielding is one flex Jadeja has because Indian team is filled with poor athletes but man-to-man Stokes is a gun athlete/ Fielder too.

 

for a impact player no one with even  half  a brain will pick Jadeja over Stokes

 

 

Stokes can be your match loser lol He pathetically played in India. Could neither bowl. nor bat. Jadeja is not a match loser though. He generally does his bit

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Vancouver said:

Jadeja is ATG.

 

KL comes across as selfish, timid. He personifies many Indian stereotypes in the west. Similar level talent Rahane at-least showed guts and took on Mitchell Johnson in Australia. But KL always play safe for his spot and has his cheerleaders in Bollywood. KL looks like Mahela when he bats. but Mahela had hunger for big scores and he was a fierce competitor on the field. Guy scores one 100 a series and then cruises for a season. I will pick a batsman in the mould of Dhawan anyday over KL.

 

 

This is what he said after final CT. He has openly admitted he cannot be playing in such situations without nerves.

 

"I don't think I can say this on camera but I was shi***** myself. We had a couple of batters to come but I was tense. It's all about keeping yourself calm and composed in situations like this. I think I've batted in times like this in 3 out of the 5 games (in this CT) and in one of the games I didn't get to bat at all against Pakistan," said Rahul while speaking to the host broadcaster.

[Trichromatic]

So people forgot that Jadeja walked in at 173-5 at MCG and walked out at 306-7?

 

Took 3 wickets in 20 overs. This was the match after 36 AO.

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-in-australia-2020-21-1223867/australia-vs-india-2nd-test-1223870/full-scorecard

[Mjcricket]

That Jadeja innings was worthless. Also, Reddy, Bumrah, Siraj played 137 balls and only scored 22 runs. What a shame. Rahul made Aksah play first ball of the last over on the fourth day, what a stupidity.