BCCI agrees to host Asia Cup at neutral venue, India-Pak likely in same group

[MechEng]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Nope in any case Airstrikes on a sovereign land is pretty high up the escalation ladder already.

 

You cannot walk away from an escalation like that...   Response was always going to come from other side and guess what they decided to Target our high value military installations air force bases to destroy our air defences by first trying to saturate them with lower cost drones.  They didn't think about full scale war shtick.

Pak mil doctrine is based on quick reaction strikes via their airforce to force their adversary to halt the charge.  They know they can't handle a prolonged conflict.  It was always going to be a short crisp conflict.

 

They failed is another matter but they knew what needed to be done.

 

Endangering pilot's and equipment was a stupid move.

Look at what Israel did first up to Iran even though Israel lacks strategic Depth unlike India to withstand full might of Iranian ballistic missile barrage.

 

I agree on your last point about India as a society.

But Op Sindoor showed people were behind the sarkar and armed Forces to go for the kill despite the consequences. 

 

 

 

 

Let's see it this way - Israel has full US support unconditionally while Iran has literally zero allies as we saw recently, still both countries had to endure significant damage amounting to no real solution.

 

Russia is much more powerful militarily than India, yet they are still unable to completely conquer Ukraine even after all these years. Ukraine suffered losses but Russian economy/infra has suffered serious damage too.

 

Pakistan is much stronger than both Ukraine and Iran with a dedicated airforce and has full intel support from China, while India although has allies in Russia and Israel it does not enjoy the kind of intel support that Pakistan gets from China.

 

Considering the scenarios above and the fact that India never tried to harm unarmed Pak civilians, to me Operation Sindoor is a much better response than Operation Rising Lion where innocent Iranians had lost lives too.

[Lone Wolf]

26 minutes ago, MechEng said:

Pakistan is much stronger than both Ukraine and Iran with a dedicated airforce

Pakistan is indeed strong militarily compared to Iran Ukraine and other middling powers... I am not asking for a full pronged invasion.  I very well know that they have no shortage of manpower to defend in case of a land invasion.  Pak military is a threat in that case.  We have seen in 1965 itself that conquering vast swaths of land is not that easy

 

But let's be honest here in a dense airspace highly defended you cannot go for Airstrikes without SEAD ops and endangering the lives of Pilots and equipments.  It is a stupid call in modern day and age. 

No military tactic justifies this logic.

Another advantage of it was we would have had nearly 3-4 days to pound P@ki airfields and significantly damage their air and ground assets.  Even a limited assult could push a country a decade behind.

If things get serious attack Naval assets that would mean decades worth of damage.

 

CDS openly speaking about this shows top military brass wasn't thrilled with this idea of Non SEAD ops.

 

Hopefully now they have opened their eyes.

 

Rest Dhandos will always be Dhandos.. so it doesn't matter how much nationalism ka chooran they offer to masses.

 

 

Edited July 25, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[Number]

I am a right leaning BJP voter who want nothing but complete balkanization of this terrorist state.

 

And I may be in extreme minority here but as long as they exist, I think we should engage with them in a mature manner. Boycotting cricket matches doesn't mean much and in how many places we can avoid them in sport. We will face their players in 20 sports in Asian Games next year, CWG games, Olympics. 

What if they are in same group in Asian Games in Cricket, Hockey ? Will we boycott those ?

What if a Pakistani shuttler is put against us in Olympics first round ?

Boycott ?

 

PS : Don't like deliberately putting Ind Pak in same group. I find that pathetic.

 

[jf1gp_1]

9 minutes ago, Number said:

I am a right leaning BJP voter who want nothing but complete balkanization of this terrorist state.

 

And I may be in extreme minority here but as long as they exist, I think we should engage with them in a mature manner. Boycotting cricket matches doesn't mean much and in how many places we can avoid them in sport. We will face their players in 20 sports in Asian Games next year, CWG games, Olympics. 

What if they are in same group in Asian Games in Cricket, Hockey ? Will we boycott those ?

What if a Pakistani shuttler is put against us in Olympics first round ?

Boycott ?

 

PS : Don't like deliberately putting Ind Pak in same group. I find that pathetic.

Right leaning bjp voter is not allowed to put forward any point which doesnt fit a certain narative without being called two faced hypocrite 

[New guy]

4 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Right leaning bjp voter is not allowed to put forward any point which doesnt fit a certain narative without being called two faced hypocrite 

Nah, it's only when you change like a snake depending on who is in power. The same things you cried about in previous goverment is all ok now and only citizens are to blame. 

[New guy]

17 minutes ago, Number said:

I am a right leaning BJP voter who want nothing but complete balkanization of this terrorist state.

 

And I may be in extreme minority here but as long as they exist, I think we should engage with them in a mature manner. Boycotting cricket matches doesn't mean much and in how many places we can avoid them in sport. We will face their players in 20 sports in Asian Games next year, CWG games, Olympics. 

What if they are in same group in Asian Games in Cricket, Hockey ? Will we boycott those ?

What if a Pakistani shuttler is put against us in Olympics first round ?

Boycott ?

 

PS : Don't like deliberately putting Ind Pak in same group. I find that pathetic.

 

But what do you say about us playing our own home series on neutral ground just to accommodate them? 

[Number]

3 minutes ago, New guy said:

But what do you say about us playing our own home series on neutral ground just to accommodate them? 

I don't want to host them tbh but if we go to a neutral ground to play them for a home game, it will be a big L for us.

[Nikhil_cric]

19 minutes ago, Number said:

I am a right leaning BJP voter who want nothing but complete balkanization of this terrorist state.

 

And I may be in extreme minority here but as long as they exist, I think we should engage with them in a mature manner. Boycotting cricket matches doesn't mean much and in how many places we can avoid them in sport. We will face their players in 20 sports in Asian Games next year, CWG games, Olympics. 

What if they are in same group in Asian Games in Cricket, Hockey ? Will we boycott those ?

What if a Pakistani shuttler is put against us in Olympics first round ?

Boycott ?

 

PS : Don't like deliberately putting Ind Pak in same group. I find that pathetic.

 

Problem is there is no point to the Asia Cup without a couple of IND-PAK matches.  

 

Broadcasters will absolutely demand it from ACC.   They even came up with a fraud Super 4 format just to ensure that we at least get 2 matches and also that the IND-PAK group has an uber minnow as the 3rd team(UAE, Nepal etc) so that both qualify for the Super 4 whereas the other group tends to be the group of death with SL, BD and Afghans in 1 group. 

 

And while BCCI don't actually partake in the profits, they'll want to keep goodwill with SLC, BCB and Afghan board so they'll go ahead with it anyway. 

 

It is what it is. 

 

[MechEng]

32 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

 

Another advantage of it was we would have had nearly 3-4 days to pound P@ki airfields and significantly damage their air and ground assets.  Even a limited assult could push a country a decade behind.

 

I believe that would have never happened, US would have intervened early and forced a ceasefire before May 9th itstelf

 

Vance clearly conveyed that it was none of their business to be involved, but they got pissed when Bholari, Jacobabad and Nur Khan bases were hit.

 

Pak is important to the US and a contingency base for them to attack Iran

[Nikhil_cric]

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone .  In November, 2024 Sony bought the Asia Cup rights until 2031 for a price that was 70% higher than the previous cycle. 

 

There was no way they would have agreed to that unless there was a clause that assured them that IND and PAK would be in the same group .

 

So expect all Asia Cups until 2031 to feature both nations and that too in the same group. 

[Lone Wolf]

3 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone .  In November, 2024 Sony bought the Asia Cup rights until 2031 for a price that was 70% higher than the previous cycle. 

 

There was no way they would have agreed to that unless there was a clause that assured them that IND and PAK would be in the same group .

 

So expect all Asia Cups until 2031 to feature both nations and that too in the same group. 

Even if we take that into consideration. We should have played Asia Cup in Hybrid model.

 

Sorry to say PCB has humiliated BCCI here.

Kept the AGM meet in Dhaka despite BCCI not agreeing initially and forced them to do a virtual meet.

And then obviously forcing India to let it Host Outside India.

 

Peee Pee should be celebrating wildly imo

[Lord]

9 hours ago, pkmmamks said:

Who listens to any Congressi narrative these days 

Yeah but this thing needs calling out. Nationalism can't be applied selectively while excusing those in power 

[Gollum]

What pisses me off about Op. Sindoor is they never gave armed forces a free hand. All that was jumla played on loop by godi media. Truth is army hands were always tied, and that is why you are seeing these frustrated statements by senior army officials including the honourable CDS. 

 

Very evil thing to do, that too subtly, aided by the scumbags in media. Walk away with all the glory ('see Modi gave a free hand to army unlike MMS and Italian waitress, all success only due to his leadership', in all whatsapp chats) and in case something wrong happens, make it appear like it was force's fault, something that is happening now because of some minor losses. 

[Gollum]

3 hours ago, New guy said:

But what do you say about us playing our own home series on neutral ground just to accommodate them? 

This is what boils my blood man. Simply host it in India, give them their damn visa, just to avenge the CT saga they themselves would have pulled out like their hockey team.....we would have come out so much stronger while also inflicting financial loss to those losers (legally we could have found a way to not share revenue with them, citing sabotage or unprofessionalism), we would have lost some $$$ but nothing compared to what our enemy would have lost. 

 

Clearly BCCI wants to keep sponsors/broadcasters happy, nice vacation/entertainmanet package for Jay Shah, Shukla etc. For GOI it is about softening the blow when inevitable IWT renegement or lack of progress comes to forefront......that is close to an impossible target they themselves have set as part of some jumla (the kind of dam network we need for that in Himalayas will challenge even USA/China who are decades ahead of us in implementing challenging infra projects), and clearly want to normalize it, SM unbanning recently was also just to test waters, bloody phattus. 

 

This has also set a very bad precedent. Their drama will only increase before every major tournament to be hosted in India. Hockey India played it perfectly. 

Edited July 25, 2025 by Gollum

[pkmmamks]

What are the chances President Trump is driving all this. 

 

Sorry 

[Gollum]

9 minutes ago, pkmmamks said:

What are the chances President Trump is driving all this. 

 

Sorry 

Sad part is many bhakts believe Trump, Putin, Xi, World Bank, IMF, IOC, Deep State etc. are behind this. People are bringing Olympics bid into discussion about an Asia Cup (that too of cricket), I mean it can't get crazier than that !!!!! Forget Americans or Chinese, even hardcore cricket fans from Eng and Aus won't know a thing about something called ACC or tournaments it hosts. 

 

Everything Modi does somehow becomes a masterstroke, he is the only honest/capable man in the whole country and similar BS. He may take two diametrically opposite decisions on consecutive days and both will be hailed as decisions of the century. India is a democracy only in name, cult of personality here is heading towards North Korea level. This trickles down as well, that is why a useless piece of rat faeces like Jay Shah is having defenders in millions. A sample like that won't find a clerical job in this country if he were not the son of HM, so many talented, capable, hard working youngsters in this country and you have absolute morons holding positions of power, even a beggar country like Pakistan is playing us because they are dealing with our most incompetent people, not our brightest !!!!

Edited July 25, 2025 by Gollum

[pkmmamks]

4 hours ago, Number said:

I am a right leaning BJP voter who want nothing but complete balkanization of this terrorist state.

 

And I may be in extreme minority here but as long as they exist, I think we should engage with them in a mature manner. Boycotting cricket matches doesn't mean much and in how many places we can avoid them in sport. We will face their players in 20 sports in Asian Games next year, CWG games, Olympics. 

What if they are in same group in Asian Games in Cricket, Hockey ? Will we boycott those ?

What if a Pakistani shuttler is put against us in Olympics first round ?

Boycott ?

 

PS : Don't like deliberately putting Ind Pak in same group. I find that pathetic.

 

So then it should be ok for people to collaborate in other fields also. They shouldn't be called out 

[pkmmamks]

Legend waala match kyun cancel Kiya fir. Whats the point. Woh bhi khel lete 

[bowl_out]

Even agreeing to pay the tournament is fine but why same group?

And just have Pak matches in a neutral venue.

Shameless bunch

Edited July 25, 2025 by bowl_out

[Zero_Unit]

for once, if you're going to play each other, be honest about the draft. Just do the draft honestly and let the draft decide who plays who 

So tired of this sheet. WC and Asia cup, always the same thing