Gambhir's role in this show of grit?

[lemsip]

In addition to having no previous coaching credentials, this guy radiates toxic negative energy. He has now picked a fight with the Oval groundsman within 10 mins of arriving at the ground. Once again, he is  the centre of conflict and attention as the team prepare for a critical test in 2 days.

People like this do not make good leaders in any profession even in corporate life. What works to motivate some personalities for higher level performance as individual contributors is counter productive when they need to lead a team. That is what is happening with Gambhir as India test coach.

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by lemsip

[putrevus]

10 hours ago, Number said:

I am a big critic of how he is messing up team combination which is leading to long tail and underutilisation of some bowling options. That has led me to believe this guy is not fit for Test coach position.

 

But at the same time I don't doubt his integrity. People may mock him for his patriotic overtones but I feel he is not faking it, he genuinely believes in drawing inspiration from soldiers or freedom fighters and he is a team first guy.

 

One example comes to my mind when he was trying to make a comeback in Indian team in 2014, he was leading Delhi Ranji side. Delhi had good fast bowlers so he chose to play Delhi's games in Palam ground which has green track instead of Kotla, despite the fact he needed runs for himself. He said I have never played cricket thinking about my own runs, I have always believed that you play for making your team win.

 

 

 

 

 

So what you are implying is only Gambhir is a patriot and has integrity.

 

Other coaches like Shastri and Dravid did not have those qualities.  They were wanting India to loose? Why you have to keep saying as if  you are the only who wants team to win.

 

First and foremost thing he has to remember , he is not not going to a war and has to stop acting as if he is fighting a war.He is not a lone warrior who is all about country others who are not as expressive as him are useless traitors.

 

His job is to help captain and put the team in position to succeed by having a template for his teams. I don't see any such thing.Plus he needs to take a chill pill and relax and let players also relax.

 

Stop being a bloody tyrant and help young players, he has ruined Sarfraz's career.

Edited July 29, 2025 by putrevus

[putrevus]

6 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Gambhir's intent can never be questioned but his thought process as a test coach can be. 

So other coaches who coached before him , their intent can be questioned.

 

Why is he so special that his intent is superior to others.

 

Is that not a given quality for any player or coach.

 

 

[putrevus]

23 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Good post, but being a person of integrity and principles does not necessarily translate into someone who can mentor others with compassion, understanding that not everyone is motivated by the same things. I get a feeling that guys like Gambhir and Kumble lack this kind of understanding.

 

Added in edit: Also, I think bringing up "service to the nation" a reason to perform in a sport is disingenuous. And on some level, I think it trivializes what soldiers really do by putting their lives on the line to protect a nation. 

Exactly, he is in fact mocking soldiers who are braving everything and putting their lives on line for the country.

 

Kumble also was a boneheaded coach who thought he is coaching school boys and has to use cane to beat them up.Guess  who thought Kumble was great and Shastri was a moron.

 

This guy took all the credit away from Chandrakant Pandit who was the coach for KKR .

 

 

[raki05]

15 minutes ago, lemsip said:

In addition to having no previous coaching credentials, this guy radiates toxic negative energy. He has now picked a fight with the Oval groundsman within 10 mins of arriving at the ground. Once again, he is  the centre of conflict and attention as the team prepare for a critical test in 2 days.

People like this do not make good leaders in any profession even in corporate life. What works to motivate some personalities for higher level performance as individual contributors is counter productive when they need to lead a team. That is what is happening with Gambhir as India test coach.

 

Lol you find negative in everything against certain individual…. Whats wrong in calling out english curators and their serving off these flat beds. Barring second test they served pitches where its difficult to take 20 wkts. Whats wrong if he is calling out these bloddy poms.

[goose]

trust gambhir to wrestle back the prize of total dickhead from the english

 

 

[saransh]

I can give credit to Gambhir as far as the backing for Sundar he has shown. Tactitally though he is very poor.

[raki05]

I can take 3/0 loss as long as any coach fire these suppeeishtaars. The intent is Gambhir cant be questions as he dowsnt like super ishtaar culture. His coaching and decision can be question. But one thing you cant question that he wants to creare supeishtaars like previous coches.

[BacktoCricaddict]

31 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

For coaching there needs to be a procedure and tenure.

 

Make a law that the person has to work x number of years in domestic circuit as a coach. Only then he can be considered for coaching team India.

 

Parachuting someone based on playing credentials is a utter waste of time.

 

The idea of a coach in cricket is still in its infancy (25 years or so?).

 

Prior to that, there was a "manager" who took care of logistics, and the only tactician/strategist was the captain. 

 

Not sure if we need a law, but coaches need to come up the ranks (been an analyst --> assistant coach for batting/bowling/fielding --> head coach for state team ...).

 

I am of course thinking of the NFL/NBA model. Not sure if it will work in cricket as it is organizationally different.

 

[diga]

25 minutes ago, goose said:

trust gambhir to wrestle back the prize of total dickhead from the english

 

 

Somebodz said that Gambhir can pick a fight with his own shadow... true that

[putrevus]

22 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

The idea of a coach in cricket is still in its infancy (25 years or so?).

 

Prior to that, there was a "manager" who took care of logistics, and the only tactician/strategist was the captain. 

 

Not sure if we need a law, but coaches need to come up the ranks (been an analyst --> assistant coach for batting/bowling/fielding --> head coach for state team ...).

 

I am of course thinking of the NFL/NBA model. Not sure if it will work in cricket as it is organizationally different.

 

No need to be an NFL coach like Bill Belichick but he should be atleast like Bill Parcells who was good enough to understand the greatness of Bill Belichick.

 

For India to compete in SENA , India needs fast bowlers.For that India needs a bowling coach who can help fast bowlers.

 

Bharat Arun still is best fast bowling coach India ever had and it is under him fast bowling blossomed.Even Siraj was under his wings in Hyderabad. You need your head coach to identify such coaches.

Edited July 29, 2025 by putrevus

[lemsip]

35 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Whats wrong in calling out english curators and their serving off these flat beds

I would prefer him to focus on his job rather than going around picking fights with journalists, tv commentators, groundsmen etc. 

His job is to produce results as head coach which he is not doing very well having lost 3-0 at home for a start.

He is not "calling out" curators of previous games. He is fighting with the groundsman of a ground where the game hasn't even been played yet.

[Lord]

Other coaches are accused for tampering Indian pitches with no evidence, this guy is trying to tamper away pitch

[Lord]

44 minutes ago, goose said:

trust gambhir to wrestle back the prize of total dickhead from the english

 

 

Jaanta hai mera Baap kaun hai 

[raki05]

14 minutes ago, lemsip said:

I would prefer him to focus on his job rather than going around picking fights with journalists, tv commentators, groundsmen etc. 

His job is to produce results as head coach which he is not doing very well having lost 3-0 at home for a start.

He is not "calling out" curators of previous games. He is fighting with the groundsman of a ground where the game hasn't even been played yet.

Ye he is calling out on groundsman and thats good as a coach he needs to call out whats suited as per his strategy. He doesnt work as per your or mine wish. I respect him for calling out these poms hypocrisy they are making specialized pitches and tampering with balls as well. Whats wrong in calling that out . Same poms keeps on crying as soon as they lost 2nd match and called out the pitches even while playing at tgeir own turf. Why Gambhir should not call out these hypocrites. He is coach not gandhiji!!

[raki05]

14 minutes ago, Lord said:

Other coaches are accused for tampering Indian pitches with no evidence, this guy is trying to tamper away pitch

Tampering is what poms are doing from pitches go the bowl. No one can beat fattu dravid in pitch tampering what he did to wc 23 final no one can beat that, The wc final was us for taking as we were strongest team till final and no one came close to is unless he shown fattugiri and tampered the pitch to favour aussies. May be he was still living with his inferiority complex and shat as soon as saw aussies in final.

[lemsip]

6 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Ye he is calling out on groundsman and thats good as a coach he needs to call out whats suited as per his strategy. He doesnt work as per your or mine wish. I respect him for calling out these poms hypocrisy they are making specialized pitches and tampering with balls as well. Whats wrong in calling that out . Same poms keeps on crying as soon as they lost 2nd match and called out the pitches even while playing at tgeir own turf. Why Gambhir should not call out these hypocrites. He is coach not gandhiji!!

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[adi B]

18 hours ago, express bowling said:

Tremendous grit was shown by 4 batters. Gill, Rahul, Washington and Jadeja. A large part of the credit goes to the batters. 

 

But such collective grit can be displayed only when the dressing room atmosphere is very positive and united. And credit for this definitely goes to Gambhir and Gill.

 

Excellent point 

[goose]

i don't care if india win their next 20 tests. gambhir is still a dickhead. 

[gattaca]

15 hours ago, Lord said:

Not so easy. 

 

Lost home series 3-0 after 12 years. That to a middling team. 

 

Lost BGT to one of the weakest Aus sides. 

 

Heavy bias against certain players. 

 

A good team would eventually win/draw some games irrespective of the coach. That doesn't make him great. 

Even shastri and kohli had bias. They dropped Karun for Rahane. Few other selections especially chahal because of RCB. Humans have bias no way around it. BGT was a shout out had one of the toughest pitches and again did you see the amount of times Kohli got caught in slips in almost every innings. We had some remnants from past. Kohli fans will bring up that century lol but he was struggling. Boland had a great series none of players could disrupt his length. I am not saying he is great but in comparison he is on his way to draw a series in England with a young team and half fit bowlers and no pant for last match. 

Edited July 29, 2025 by gattaca