JUSTICE FOR JAISWAL

[Suhaan]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

Jaiswal will replace Abhishek in big games.

Abhishek is the soul of this T20 side,he's bigger match winner than Jaiswal

He just keeps going big,Jaiswal for all his flair and class,slows down after initial burst in t20s

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Abhishek is the soul of this T20 side,he's bigger match winner than Jaiswal

He just keeps going big,Jaiswal for all his flair and class,slows down after initial burst in t20s

 

I know. But thats how the TM thinks. Even Gill maybe back

[Suhaan]

12 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

I know. But thats how the TM thinks. Even Gill maybe back

Gill will most probably lead this side in upcoming T20 WC 

[tapandrun]

Do not think there has been any injustice to him in the selection/non-selection in t20i side. Right now all the members of t20i  justifies their places specially in the top-order.

There are too many options right now. Ind is following right template by having a wk and some1 who can bowl in top 3. If you do not have specialist t20 batter-wkt keeper like pooran/klasen then you want the wk to open and try maximize the pp.

 

It would have been an injustice of some1 not suited for t20 was taking that place. Think he should have got a spot in odi side but it not happening because rohit is still there.

He lost this spot in t20i side because he was rested and abhishek got a chance and then he played some v.good innings specially against archer and wood.

 

Think he was rested in t20is as bcci does not want him to challenge rohit's place in odis. if he would have scored runs in those t20is there would have been pressure on rohit.

And as Abhishek is purely a t20 batter he is not going to challenge rohit's place.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Need4Speed]

Abhishek is the one who sets us apart..

Similar SRs can be seen with Vaibhav Sooryavanshi and Priyansh Arya..

 

These guys can play with 250-300 SRs..thats what you need now..to be ahead of heavy hitters from Aus,Eng and SAFs..(not sure if TM also thinks in that way or not)

 

200 SR is the new normal..thats where Gill wont fit for me..may be even Jswal wont..unless he can keep wickets..or play in MO..

Edited August 12, 2025 by Need4Speed

[vvvslaxman]

I want Jaiswal in ODIs. But not in T20s. That guy carries the same vibe to Test and perishes to nothing deliveries.  Finding a Test opener like Jaiswal is very very hard. But we can find so many T20 openers.

[tapandrun]

3 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

Abhishek is the one who sets us apart..

Similar SRs can be seen with Vaibhav Sooryavanshi and Priyansh Arya..

 

These guys can play with 250-300 SRs..thats what you need now..to be ahead of heavy hitters from Aus,Eng and SAFs..(not sure if TM also thinks in that way or not)

 

200 SR is the new normal..thats where Gill wont fit for me..may be even Jswal wont..unless he can keep wickets..or play in MO..

Right now bringing batter/player like Gill in t20i set-up is more about creating the problems then providing the solution. He can only play as a opener and he is not particularly good t20 opener, does not have any other skill. Ind does not have a t20 level wk-batter so we need to slot wk in openers' position now we have a condition where both openers are there because they are not the best at those position but Ind need to fit then in such a way that they can try to maximize their ability.

 

Now compare to Gill as opener to the openers of other teams. kl, Gill, Kolhi all scores tons of runs in IPL but does not transpire to point of diff. in ICC t20i events against traditionally good t20 side  ?? 

 

No team one is bringing in a Gill like batter in their side, if Ind teams does that they will be taking few steps back.

Edited August 13, 2025 by tapandrun

[Ultimate_Game]

Jaiswal is destined to not play any WCs till 2030. T20 side will get likes of Gill and in ODIs the dynamic duo of panauti Kohli and fat phuck Rohit won't let him in. Unfortunately in India performances don't matter, PR and star power does 

 

If suddenly Dhoni decides to get into shorter formats, he'll have a better chance to get in than Jaiswal.

[Need4Speed]

3 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Right now bringing batter/player like Gill in t20i set-up is more about creating the problems then providing the solution. He can only play as a opener and he is not particularly good t20 opener, does not have any other skill. Ind does not have a t20 level wk-batter so we need to slot wk in openers' position now we have a condition where both openers are there because they are not the best at those position but Ind need to fit then in such a way that they can try to maximize their ability.

 

Now compare to Gill as opener to the openers of other teams. kl, Gill, Kolhi all scores tons of runs in IPL but does not transpire to point of diff. in ICC t20i events against traditionally good t20 side  ?? 

 

No team one is bringing in a Gill like batter in their side, if Ind teams does that they will be taking few steps back.

yes,Gill is a no go for me too..I will take Jswal over Gill in t20 if it comes to one..however as @vvvslaxman aptly mentioned..we dont want to affect Jswal's Test batting due to T20s..

[Sooda]

17 hours ago, bowl_out said:

They'll start with Sanju as opener. And Jitesh will be the back up keeper or might make the playing 11 at 7 or 8.

 

SKY/Tilak at 3.4

 

Shreyas might be in consideration to make the squad after two back to back IPL final. Not bad to have stability at 4/5 after an explosive top 3. But that would mean no spot for Rinku.

 

Pandya/Axar/Jitesh at 6.7.8

 

Arshdeep/Bumrah/VC at 9.10.11

 

Unfortunately, Kuldeep still misses out. Jaiswal might be on the bench too, and might swap in for Sanju/Abhishek if they fail

 

 

I think replace Sanju with Jaiswal and Jitesh at 8... Jaiswal is a much better bat than Sanju. It's harsh on Sanju but what to do

 

And get Iyer in

 

Jaiswal, Abhishek, Sky, Iyer, Tilak, Hardik, Axar, Jitesh, Arshdeep, Bumrah,Varun

 

Sanju, Riyan, Kuldeep, Harshit (?)

 

That would be my 11 and four man bench to make 15 for Asia cup 

 

May need to trust Abhishek and/or Tilak with an over or two but they're more than capable, certainly Abhi is. 

 

I would like Iyer as captain too, but it's probably unfair on SKY 

[vvvslaxman]

Sanju plays one format. They should keep him there. India has the luxury to handle the complexity of extra format with plethora of options. I know BCCI likes to use a poster boy milk money out of him. They should resist that temptation.

[bowl_out]

4 hours ago, Sooda said:

 

I think replace Sanju with Jaiswal and Jitesh at 8... Jaiswal is a much better bat than Sanju. It's harsh on Sanju but what to do

 

And get Iyer in

 

Jaiswal, Abhishek, Sky, Iyer, Tilak, Hardik, Axar, Jitesh, Arshdeep, Bumrah,Varun

 

Sanju, Riyan, Kuldeep, Harshit (?)

 

That would be my 11 and four man bench to make 15 for Asia cup 

 

May need to trust Abhishek and/or Tilak with an over or two but they're more than capable, certainly Abhi is. 

 

I would like Iyer as captain too, but it's probably unfair on SKY 

I had almost the same XI except Sanju opening instead of Jaiswal.

 

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

The young T20 team has won nearly everything since the T20 WC win. Best to stick to a similar combo

 

Abhishek, Sanju, Tilak, Surya, Hardik, Rinku, Dube, Axar, Kuldeep, Varun, Arshdeep, Bumrah (only for T20 WC), NKR (when fit), Prasidh, Iyer

 

Jaiswal, Gill, Iyer all being one dimensional in the format, only one should be picked. Given his flexibility to move around the batting order, Iyer should be the reserve batsman including as the backup opener. Reserve keeper slot is a toss up between Jitesh and Prabhsimran

 

As good as Shashank Singh and Ashutosh Sharma have been as the best Indian lower order hitters in IPL, Ramandeep Singh when fit will find a place ahead of them

[ShoonyaSifar]

So we have scheduling issues as well. Asia Cup finishes on Sept 28, Tests vs WI start on Oct 2nd.

 

No need to pick any home test regulars Jaiswal, Gill, Jurel, Axar, Kuldeep for the tournament. Let the T20I regularsbe picked - Abhishek, Sanju, Tilak, SKY, Iyer, Hardik, Rinku, Dube, Bishnoi, Varun, Arshdeep, Harshit, Riyan, Jitesh, Krunal, Khaleel

 

Best option, which I think will happen closer to start date of Asia Cup, is to kill the tournament once and for all. 

[Lord]

5 hours ago, Sooda said:

 

I think replace Sanju with Jaiswal and Jitesh at 8... Jaiswal is a much better bat than Sanju. It's harsh on Sanju but what to do

 

And get Iyer in

 

Jaiswal, Abhishek, Sky, Iyer, Tilak, Hardik, Axar, Jitesh, Arshdeep, Bumrah,Varun

 

Sanju, Riyan, Kuldeep, Harshit (?)

 

That would be my 11 and four man bench to make 15 for Asia cup 

 

May need to trust Abhishek and/or Tilak with an over or two but they're more than capable, certainly Abhi is. 

 

I would like Iyer as captain too, but it's probably unfair on SKY 

 

Jaiswal maybe better than Sanju but Jitesh is not better than Parag/Tilak that will play if Sanju opened. That gap is much wider.

 

Honestly there is no need to tinker with the combo we have now.

 

Jaiswal also needs to focus on Tests. Bad habits from T20 can seep in Tests and it will also increase workload

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

Jaiswal maybe better than Sanju but Jitesh is not better than Parag/Tilak that will play if Sanju opened. That gap is much wider.

 

Honestly there is no need to tinker with the combo we have now.

 

Jaiswal also needs to focus on Tests. Bad habits from T20 can seep in Tests and it will also increase workload

I still remember "Mera Jassu Jassu comment of yours".

Jaiswal ki Shani Mahadasha start ho gayi uske baad se 

[tapandrun]

7 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Jaiswal maybe better than Sanju but Jitesh is not better than Parag/Tilak that will play if Sanju opened. That gap is much wider.

 

Honestly there is no need to tinker with the combo we have now.

 

Jaiswal also needs to focus on Tests. Bad habits from T20 can seep in Tests and it will also increase workload

 

Though the case for a hitter down the order who can keep wkts is enticing but not convinced that Jitesh is a hitter at intnl t20 level.

 

how the t20 teams are set-up test days or the template is-- TM wants across the franchises or intnl levels is -- If a Wk can not make in to the team purely as batter without reducing the strength of team then they have to Open its to maximize their ability and they have licenses to go after each ball. And then extension to the template is that  you want a wk and some1 who can bowl in top 3.

 

So unless the wk is Klasen/Pooran/Butller who are top t20i batters can bat anywhere in the line up and are top pick in the playing 11 then the wk has to Open.

 

Does jitesh qualifies as lower/lower-middle order hitter at intl level ?? Do not think so.

None of the Ind wking options available can be select into playing 11 just on their batting, so they have to open and amongst them Sanju looks the best option.

 

 

Edited August 13, 2025 by tapandrun

[Lord]

9 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

I still remember "Mera Jassu Jassu comment of yours".

Jaiswal ki Shani Mahadasha start ho gayi uske baad se 

 

Epic ton on a greentop in last game. I bring good luck only

 

Jaisu di balle balle 

 

[nitinbwj]

Abhishek smacked Archer for sixes. He can tore the opposition single handedly when he goes big. A much bigger and a better match winner in T20's. His spot should never come under consideration.

 

Jofra Archer said, "The way Abhishek Sharma was hitting sixes off me, for a moment, I felt like I didn’t know how to bowl."

 

Jaiswal doesn't fit for now. 

[Sooda]

18 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Jaiswal maybe better than Sanju but Jitesh is not better than Parag/Tilak that will play if Sanju opened. That gap is much wider.

 

Honestly there is no need to tinker with the combo we have now.

 

Jaiswal also needs to focus on Tests. Bad habits from T20 can seep in Tests and it will also increase workload

 

Tilak plays anyway though?

 

In my 11 Iyer gets in which definitely strengthens the team and Jitesh at 8 is good finisher he is unlikely to see much batting time which suits him

 

Jaiswal plays the whole IPL anyway so those bad habits would creep in and will have to be managed and coached 

 

Dube was in the last squad, I'm not sure about him at all. And Rinku I'm a big fan of but has off the boil a bit of late. 

Edited August 14, 2025 by Sooda