raki05 Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 (edited) 12 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Both go hand in hand... Infrastructure is needed for overall development & investment only comes if there is infrastructure otherwise state would remain in a perpetual black hole of gundagardi and lawlessness. Without infrastructure investment push Yogi bhi kuch nahi kar paata. He would have to start from scratch and would have found near impossible to deal with law and order in chaos. Its not like if Akhilesh wouldnt have stated few yogi also would have sit idle. First requirements for any state to have any investment push is law and order. What Akhilesh and Mulaym did was darkest days for UP ,where they allowed government land and peoples land to be grabbed by mafiya and don they literally have their cabinate filled with mafiya, convicted murders and dons. This infra push during his last tenure was just a sham, i belive you never stayed in UP so presenting this rosy figure,i am from Purvanchal and know how it works in gundaraj , ask anyone in UP and they give **** about their infra when they had first hand experience of land grabbing done by SP mafiyas. Edited August 31, 2025 by raki05 singhvivek141 1
coffee_rules Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 20 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Many people will disagree with me, but I consider JP movement as one incident which singlehandedly sabotaged the future of the North indian states during 1980-2000. Likes of Nitish, RamVilas paswan, Mulayam, Lalu all rose under his movement against Indira...and all of them were heavily inspired by left ideology which was against development and was inspired by keeping power in control. Had JP not done that, probably both UP and Bihar would have escaped the wrath of these politicians. Maybe if Rajiv Gandhi was not assassinated, Congress would still be effective in UP and Bihar. Congress was decimated in these two states in the 90s after he was gone as Congress operated like a headless chicken raki05 1
raki05 Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 22 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: It's not their fault, it's the fault of our ecosystem, which kept on dividing us through lens of caste, religion, language etc. India kept the industries in South to avoid the Pakistan/China factor in North...which we all know was pretty rampant till 1970. The thought was that South will stay away from the battlefield and will help in growing the India economically, it also helped that South has a large coastline. But, somehow it lead to a stage where a UPwala or a Bihari or a Rajasthani became an outsider in his own country and were termed as BIMARU. As if these cast related problem was only limited to Bihar. If you go down southi most villages such problem exist. People saying dom, chammar related castism problem is only limited to bihar is living in fool’s world. coffee_rules and singhvivek141 2
singhvivek141 Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 28 minutes ago, raki05 said: As if these cast related problem was only limited to Bihar. If you go down southi most villages such problem exist. People saying dom, chammar related castism problem is only limited to bihar is living in fool’s world. Yup, Telangana-Andhra me casteism is high. In TN its a crime to be even a Tam Bam. Many of my office colleague who are Brahmins have discreetly told me how difficult it is to be a Brahmin in TN. raki05 and coffee_rules 1 1
Trichromatic Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 40 minutes ago, raki05 said: As if these cast related problem was only limited to Bihar. If you go down southi most villages such problem exist. People saying dom, chammar related castism problem is only limited to bihar is living in fool’s world. It's like saying a batsman averaging 10 is facing issues as batsman averaging 35 just because both are struggling with their form and performance.
coffee_rules Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 2 hours ago, Trichromatic said: It's like saying a batsman averaging 10 is facing issues as batsman averaging 35 just because both are struggling with their form and performance. No , it is about batsmen averaging 35 mocking and laughing at a batsman averaging 25 , as though he is Bradman and living in Switzerland raki05 and singhvivek141 2
rangeelaraja Posted August 31, 2025 Author Posted August 31, 2025 30 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: No , it is about batsmen averaging 35 mocking and laughing at a batsman averaging 25 , as though he is Bradman and living in Switzerland I reckon you should conduct a 1:1 conversation with this young gentleman, Rakesh ( @raki05 ) on this matter. He is an IT professional, originally from Purvanchal UP and pro-BJP. He recently went to Australia for work. I came to know of this when he was posting at odd hours. Thank you for your attention to this matter. raki05 and coffee_rules 2
raki05 Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 (edited) 6 hours ago, Trichromatic said: It's like saying a batsman averaging 10 is facing issues as batsman averaging 35 just because both are struggling with their form and performance. All i am saying is castism is the problem but not the way you are projecting where Dom are not allowed to entered into village due to their cast, thats not right. Only those Dom who pet pigs stay on periphery, as pig needs lot of muds and dirty places and that can be harmful for kids. There are many Dom who stay in village as they dont own pigs and they live with other people. Edited August 31, 2025 by raki05
raki05 Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: I reckon you should conduct a 1:1 conversation with this young gentleman, Rakesh ( @raki05 ) on this matter. He is an IT professional, originally from Purvanchal UP and pro-BJP. He recently went to Australia for work. I came to know of this when he was posting at odd hours. Thank you for your attention to this matter. I am only pro nationalist. All the bjp policies which is inline with national interest i support that. Playin with pakistani in Asia cup, i am completely against of. Edited August 31, 2025 by raki05 bharathh, rangeelaraja, singhvivek141 and 1 other 4
rangeelaraja Posted September 1, 2025 Author Posted September 1, 2025 39 minutes ago, raki05 said: I am only pro nationalist. All the bjp policies which is inline with national interest i support that. Playin with pakistani in Asia cup, i am completely against of. I agree 100 %. Right now for nationalists - BJP is the only alternative in India. Rest of the parties are outright corrupt dynasties or run by fraud scamsters like Kejriwal. If there was a party that was more RW than BJP, I would root for them anyday. I consider BJP as centrist and not really RW. The 1.5 ( not 0.5 ) that India faces Include - TMC, Congress, RJD, SP, CPI - BJP is in its 11th year and has done nothing to eliminate this cancer. raki05 1
Trichromatic Posted September 1, 2025 Posted September 1, 2025 1 hour ago, raki05 said: All i am saying is castism is the problem but not the way you are projecting where Dom are not allowed to entered into village due to their cast, thats not right. Only those Dom who pet pigs stay on periphery, as pig needs lot of muds and dirty places and that can be harmful for kids. There are many Dom who stay in village as they dont own pigs and they live with other people. You’re saying what I saw for many years in Bihar was not true?
coffee_rules Posted September 2, 2025 Posted September 2, 2025 Is she praising RaGa or Bihariyon ka le rahi hain?
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