Nepal crisis

[Lone Wolf]

43 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

But they couldn't topple the govt. Govt never resigned or ran away. Instead, they had to run away from Ramleela maidan when govt used force. UPA lost election later on which would have happened even without those protests. The thing those protests did was created Kejriwal.

India is too diverse for a revolt to storm the capital.If one group tries to do it, the other will suppress it.Indian state,military is designed as such that it won't happen. There is also CAPF.

 

Narrative setting and creating an anti establishment environment is what works here.

Modi g allowed Shaheen Bagh and Farmers protest to fizzle out despite taking an L in the process.... Such methods were also adopted recently by Indonesia.  Protests fizzled out there too.

 

Sometimes there is a way to peacefully let things play out.

Edited September 9, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[gattaca]

1 hour ago, bharathh said:

Where did Oli and his coterie run to? WIll be interesting to see where they are holed up at to see who is behind this - the Americans or the Chinese. 

Isn’t oli pro China ? He also released maps to include Indian territory. Mostly probably Americans. Oli is a communist and has been close to China. He allowed Chinese apps like TikTok and WeChat. He banned facebook, instagram, twitter etc all American companies. He should have banned one at a time. 

Edited September 9, 2025 by gattaca

[gattaca]

6 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

US Deep state is obsessed with Indian subcontinent.

Not Indian subcontinent just China.

[coffee_rules]

9 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Isn’t oli pro China ? He also released maps to include Indian territory. Mostly probably Americans. Oli is a communist and has been close to China. He allowed Chinese apps like TikTok and WeChat. He banned facebook, instagram, twitter etc all American companies. He should have banned one at a time. 

There were rumors about him being honey trapped by the Chinese embassy in Khatmandu. Nepal could have been an indian state , another mistake of Lehru

[diga]

5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

There were rumors about him being honey trapped by the Chinese embassy in Khatmandu. Nepal could have been an indian state , another mistake of Lehru

Mount everest being part of India would have been a revenue earner too

[gattaca]

11 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

There were rumors about him being honey trapped by the Chinese embassy in Khatmandu. Nepal could have been an indian state , another mistake of Lehru

Yes he was honey trapped but he is communist. Isn’t Nepal separate country during British as well?

Edited September 9, 2025 by gattaca

[Tillu]

It is always the small and homogeneous countries which are easy to stage a coup and topple the governments.

 

Even China being a homogeneous country is always quick to react to external criticism.

[coffee_rules]

8 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Yes he was honey trapped but he is communist. Isn’t Nepal separate country during British as well?

Yes, like Sikkim , Sri Lanka and Bhutan. It was part of British dominion. In the 50s King Tribhuvan had offered to be a province of India, Nehru declined the offer. 

[gattaca]

3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Yes, like Sikkim , Sri Lanka and Bhutan. It was part of British dominion. In the 50s King Tribhuvan had offered to be a province of India, Nehru declined the offer. 

Ah Nehru the guy had no credentials to be a PM destroyed so many advantages India had. Indira was India’s best prime minister considering she was heavily opposed by US and still secured the country. 

[Lone Wolf]

16 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Yes, like Sikkim , Sri Lanka and Bhutan. It was part of British dominion. In the 50s King Tribhuvan had offered to be a province of India, Nehru declined the offer. 

It was later rejected by Nepal as no such official documents were found by their MeA.

It was a mere rumour.

Nepal like SL always remained outside of Indian dominion.

 

Burmese were part of Indian dominion though but British cleverly cut them off

 

Edited September 9, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[coffee_rules]

4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

It was later rejected by Nepal as no such official documents were found by their MeA.

It was a mere rumour.

Nepal like SL always remained outside of Indian dominion.

 

Burmese were part of Indian dominion though but British cleverly cut them off

 

It was more than a mere rumor. Pranab Mukherjee had mentioned it in his Auto-biography . Also there are multiple sources. Officially, there will be denials as India and China could have fought over the territory . Tibet , Nepal were all buffer zones that British managed between India and China. China occupied Tibet in 1949, India could have taken Nepal on that pretext. 

 

Recently, there were news about the Nepal royal family coming back into the political fold with changes to the constitution to make the King as the constitutional head  and re-declare Nepal as a Hindu Kingdom. These protests could be a Chinese plan to put down any such movements 

[ravishingravi]

China Vs US, India Vs China, India Vs US. Plus drugs. This is result. Drug induced coup. 

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

43 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

India could have taken Nepal on that pretext. 

India instead signed treaty in 1950 with Nepal which was met with stiff resistance by Pahari people of Nepal.  The open border is result of that treaty alone.

There was no pretext in which India could have taken Nepal by force.

They went for second best option.

A Hindu monarchy kingdom that acted as a buffer state between Communist China and India..and was virtually dependent on us.

 

Edited September 9, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[bharathh]

27 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

China Vs US, India Vs China, India Vs US. Plus drugs. This is result. Drug induced coup. 

 

 

 

Commies going out should be a W for us. That said, it will be interesting to see how they go. They are (were) a Hindu country. Hopefully no Islamist insurrection there.

[Lone Wolf]

32 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

China Vs US, India Vs China, India Vs US. Plus drugs. This is result. Drug induced coup. 

 

 

US base Nepal looks a mere formality now...  Nightmare for both India and China.

ISI which is already deep rooted within  Nepal may be given free hand to try stuff out on Indian North East.

 

India and China both should be worried ideally.

[ravishingravi]

 

[bharathh]

31 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

US base Nepal looks a mere formality now...  Nightmare for both India and China.

ISI which is already deep rooted within  Nepal may be given free hand to try stuff out on Indian North East.

 

India and China both should be worried ideally.

No chance of a US base in Nepal. China will not let it happen. How are they planning to get the planes there let alone keep up supply? No way in and out of Nepal unless you go through India or dangerously through China.

[Lone Wolf]

58 minutes ago, bharathh said:

No chance of a US base in Nepal. China will not let it happen. How are they planning to get the planes there let alone keep up supply? No way in and out of Nepal unless you go through India or dangerously through China.

BD can help with port connectivity...  If not a full fledged base they can always keep a close eye on Tibet through there.   India US already have a LEMOA agreement in 2016 for logistical support.  So technically India won't stop US either.

 

 

Also You would wonder what are the advantages of a Puppet government.

 

Further it is being reported that Americans are now also showing keen interest in Central Asian affairs... That's basically playbook number 2 for them.

Edited September 9, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[coffee_rules]

55 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

 

 

 

No way the farmer protests would have resulted in a Nepal/Kanglu type situation in India. Farmers from only one state were coerced to protest , rest of the country was not into the protests. Also, India is too big and diverse to result in such a huge protest to bring down a government and do a takta palat. USA Deep state tried to do it with Anna Andolan, nothing happened except it gave Delhi a anarchical  regime for 10 years.

[bharathh]

14 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

BD can help with port connectivity...  If not a full fledged base they can always keep a close eye on Tibet through there.   India US already have a LEMOA agreement in 2016 for logistical support.  So technically India won't stop US either.

 

 

Also You would wonder what are the advantages of a Puppet government.

 

Further it is being reported that Americans are now also showing keen interest in Central Asian affairs... That's basically playbook number 2 for them.

 

 

Doesn't help with Nepal. You can smuggle contraband through the Chiken's neck - not military supplies. India will in this environment - esp if it has to do with an airbase.