What's the point of Gill in T20s???

[Ultimate_Game]

See the difference Gill's omission makes. He isn't there and the team looks totally different. And if we play Samson, we don't even need to play Jitesh and get in Rinku or Parag! Imagine this team in the WT20!

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

See the difference Gill's omission makes. He isn't there and the team looks totally different. And if we play Samson, we don't even need to play Jitesh and get in Rinku or Parag! Imagine this team in the WT20!

 

If they had paid attention to some key statistics that is required for T20 they would not have backe dhim

 

[tapandrun]

3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

If they had paid attention to some key statistics that is required for T20 they would not have backe dhim

 

 

 

They know all this, it just they want a star or create a star, its the same reason Pant was pushed in all format , kl is being pushed . They either need a stop gap star or a super star.

 

Winning is not a priority. 

 

They dropped Abhishek in mo after getting a sub 45 ball ton in zim to make a place for gill. They all know he just got 2 6-hitting shots.

 

1 bad series for sanju even in that bad series he tried to give quick starts and then he was dropped. 

 

 

 

 

[Ultimate_Game]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

If they had paid attention to some key statistics that is required for T20 they would not have backe dhim

 

 

Jaiswal, Parag, Rinku Singh and Iyer have been let down by our selectors. Just because they don't play for a big IPL team and are not deemed "marketable", they've paid a heavy price. All of them have better credentials than Gill and SKY but can't get in. And now BCCI is taking it a step further by announcing the WT20 team nearly 3months ahead so others don't even have a chance to be selected.

 

BCCI may as well announce the squad for WC 2027 while they're at it. Why risk any "outsider" to break into the team? Get your favorite stars and be dome with it. There's a reason we have such a poor record in ICC tourneys despite having the most resources and the deepest pool of players. But we still fail coz of BCCI and one-eyed biased selection. We got the house somewhat in order over the year and a half and we managed to win back-to-back ICC tourneys. Now we're back to square one and I expect results to go back to what they used to be.

[Gollum]

6 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Jaiswal, Parag, Rinku Singh and Iyer have been let down by our selectors. Just because they don't play for a big IPL team and are not deemed "marketable", they've paid a heavy price. All of them have better credentials than Gill and SKY but can't get in. And now BCCI is taking it a step further by announcing the WT20 team nearly 3months ahead so others don't even have a chance to be selected.

 

BCCI may as well announce the squad for WC 2027 while they're at it. Why risk any "outsider" to break into the team? Get your favorite stars and be dome with it. There's a reason we have such a poor record in ICC tourneys despite having the most resources and the deepest pool of players. But we still fail coz of BCCI and one-eyed biased selection. We got the house somewhat in order over the year and a half and we managed to win back-to-back ICC tourneys. Now we're back to square one and I expect results to go back to what they used to be.

Spot on.

 

That is why we will never be an Australia despite having all the resources in the world. 

 

No accountability in this country, be it cricket or pollution crisis. 

[Ultimate_Game]

42 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Spot on.

 

That is why we will never be an Australia despite having all the resources in the world. 

 

No accountability in this country, be it cricket or pollution crisis. 

 

It hurts but majority of Indian cricket fans don't really care about the Indian team. They only care about their favorite stars and BCCI knows it pretty well.

[putrevus]

Gill can become core player even in t20s if he finds his niche , If SKY can reinvent himself, Gill should be able to add more strokes in his repertoire to become mainstay in T20 too.

 

It is good that he is not selected here if he has any competitive juices it should fuel him to become better in t20s.

 

 

[putrevus]

On 12/19/2025 at 10:29 PM, Gollum said:

Spot on.

 

That is why we will never be an Australia despite having all the resources in the world. 

 

No accountability in this country, be it cricket or pollution crisis. 

Money doesn’t create bowlers. Once Shami and Ishant have left or kicked out in case of Shami there is no fast bowler even in near horizon. What can BCCI do , it can’t buy Starc and Cummins.

 

Blaming BCCI is easy thing to do.

 

[tapandrun]

5 hours ago, putrevus said:

Gill can become core player even in t20s if he finds his niche , If SKY can reinvent himself, Gill should be able to add more strokes in his repertoire to become mainstay in T20 too.

 

It is good that he is not selected here if he has any competitive juices it should fuel him to become better in t20s.

 

 

It does not work that way, yes a situation can arrive where team is build-up/set-up around him and he becomes the main gig. This is what happens in IPL.

IPL teams picks up their marquee player and build and set-up entire team around them. Example are Dravid and Rahane for RR, Kolhi for RCB , KL for  various sides.

 

There players/batters are not naturally suited but their team was build around them making then look v.good and all the resources were pushed to them. 

 

He is been in iPL scene since 2018 8 season now, he knew his batting style is not suite but he has not been able to add much shots. 

Gill lacks power game, does not have ability to access difficult/unusual part of the field and lacks the intent , everything one do not wants in a t20 batter

 

There are 2 routes to improve as t20 batter if a they lack power game::: Pandaya way and other is DK way.

 

So pandaya nows he plays largely as finisher and most of the ball bowled to him will be yorkish length so he has improved his down the ground shot and made it like the shot where he is comfortable hitting every ball for 6 straight down , yes hitting every ball for 6 is not possible and he lacks ability to hit high pace bowlers down the ground.

 

The DK way was to change his batting style more suited for t20s and added shots such that he can access both side of the ground , but then he lacks the power game.

He made changes to his batting style and access difficult part of the field. 

Most Ind batters who are not able to make it into Ind side and knows there is only 1 way is through t20s and IPL have gone that route be it Tripathi, Sky, DK

 

 

 

Edited December 23, 2025 by tapandrun

[putrevus]

15 hours ago, tapandrun said:

It does not work that way, yes a situation can arrive where team is build-up/set-up around him and he becomes the main gig. This is what happens in IPL.

IPL teams picks up their marquee player and build and set-up entire team around them. Example are Dravid and Rahane for RR, Kolhi for RCB , KL for  various sides.

 

There players/batters are not naturally suited but their team was build around them making then look v.good and all the resources were pushed to them. 

 

He is been in iPL scene since 2018 8 season now, he knew his batting style is not suite but he has not been able to add much shots. 

Gill lacks power game, does not have ability to access difficult/unusual part of the field and lacks the intent , everything one do not wants in a t20 batter

 

There are 2 routes to improve as t20 batter if a they lack power game::: Pandaya way and other is DK way.

 

So pandaya nows he plays largely as finisher and most of the ball bowled to him will be yorkish length so he has improved his down the ground shot and made it like the shot where he is comfortable hitting every ball for 6 straight down , yes hitting every ball for 6 is not possible and he lacks ability to hit high pace bowlers down the ground.

 

The DK way was to change his batting style more suited for t20s and added shots such that he can access both side of the ground , but then he lacks the power game.

He made changes to his batting style and access difficult part of the field. 

Most Ind batters who are not able to make it into Ind side and knows there is only 1 way is through t20s and IPL have gone that route be it Tripathi, Sky, DK

 

 

 

I don’t think players are going to change unless they are forced to change . 
 

So it is upto Gill if he wants to change.

[Lord]

On 12/22/2025 at 3:50 PM, putrevus said:

Money doesn’t create bowlers. Once Shami and Ishant have left or kicked out in case of Shami there is no fast bowler even in near horizon. What can BCCI do , it can’t buy Starc and Cummins.

 

Blaming BCCI is easy thing to do.

 

 

its BCCI's job to create a fast bowling culture where conditions are friendlier, they are backed more and given modern facilities for training and development.

 

Leaving it to luck is not enough. That'll ensure such bowlers are rare

[putrevus]

21 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

its BCCI's job to create a fast bowling culture where conditions are friendlier, they are backed more and given modern facilities for training and development.

 

Leaving it to luck is not enough. That'll ensure such bowlers are rare

That is nonsense, they have done giving contract to even emerging players and these guys are getting treated in any country where there are expert doctors available.Guy like Prasidh Krishna played less than handful of FC in almost decade yet BCCI paid for his injury treatment and rehab in hope of getting him healthy.

 

They have created BCCI academy and hired the guys like VVS to oversee them.It is also upto players to utilize the facitlities and having will to improve.

 

Guy like Rana remains fat and unfit huffing and puffing after bowling few ovesr even after playing international cricket for nearly two plus years.Who is responsible? 

 

Nobdy asked Kohli to start fitness revolution..The same BCCI is for Rohit who is fat and unfit where as Sachin remained fit and agile for most part of his career. Players have to take responibility too.

 

I would have liked MRF and Mcgrath to have more input.But I don't know what is happening between MRF and BCCI.

 

No system is perfect, Aussies have played same three fast bowlers for more than decade and they are now playing a 29 year old injury prone fast bowler for boxing day test.

 

 That is why a guy like Shami who still wants to play and has shown he is good enough needs to be given all the support.But it is not BCCI's fault it is the two idiots GG and Agarkar who are ruining the show.You want to blame BCCI for hiring them then you have point but they had even CAC for hiring them.

Edited December 23, 2025 by putrevus