IndianRenegade Posted October 11 Posted October 11 1 hour ago, Lord said: Can we trust them? In the end they are also Islamic terrorists If in future one Pak regime doesn’t attack us, do we cozy up to them too? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk We have great relationship with a country that killed millions of Indians. The UK. the the problem with Pakistan is territorial amplified by ideological issues. We have ideological issues with Taliban too, but there are no territorial contact so those ideological issues are constrained to one’s border. if there is a pak government that doesn’t attack us & is willing to dismantle terror infrastructure, India should certainly try & resolve the territorial issue. But there hasn’t been a single such govt.
rkt.india Posted October 11 Posted October 11 (edited) 8 hours ago, Lord said: Taliban is a terrorist organisation just like Hamas. They have actually killed Indian diplomats and drove away Sikhs and Hindus of Afg,Why are we siding with them just to deal with Pak? There are no saints in geopolitics. Things are not be seen in black and white. Edited October 11 by rkt.india
bsriharsha Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Relationship between Afghanistan is crucial because of Chibahar port (controlled by Indi) and the passage way that Afghanistan offers to countries above it. We are talking of Krygstan , Tajikistan and then the link to Russia. It would have been easier if Pakistan was friendly or even neutral. But that route is gone now. Makes sense for India to provide clandestine support to the Baloch rebels, As well as Afghanistan etc. This allows India to get the route through Afghanistan quicker as opposed to the CPEC.
singhvivek141 Posted October 12 Posted October 12 (edited) Taliban says 58 Pak soldiers are dead so far. Pak says the number is 23, while the Afghan side 200+ sepoys are dead. Taliban is no match for Pak, but it can cause serious dent to their civil society and military casulties courtesy of guerilla warfare. Pashtuns and Balochs are going to cause more havoc in Pakistan now. We need to arm the Taliban, given them guns and weapons. Iran wouldn't mind as well, so use the Chabahar port and choke the Pakistan. Hope Indian Govt isn't napping on this issue due to Bihar elections. Edited October 12 by singhvivek141 randomGuy 1
Chaos Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Lets go afghanistan, lets do guerrilla style war you guys great at. Even usa couldnt do jack after spending trillions. Now all india (maybe russia too) is just secretly give them military resources. Pak economy is already bikari, now they cant afford attacks inside the country. Now it will become from bikari nation to kneel n beg nation.
randomGuy Posted October 13 Posted October 13 9 hours ago, Chaos said: Lets go afghanistan, lets do guerrilla style war you guys great at. Even usa couldnt do jack after spending trillions. Now all india (maybe russia too) is just secretly give them military resources. Pak economy is already bikari, now they cant afford attacks inside the country. Now it will become from bikari nation to kneel n beg nation.
ravishingravi Posted October 13 Posted October 13 On 10/11/2025 at 7:27 AM, IndianRenegade said: We have great relationship with a country that killed millions of Indians. The UK. the the problem with Pakistan is territorial amplified by ideological issues. We have ideological issues with Taliban too, but there are no territorial contact so those ideological issues are constrained to one’s border. if there is a pak government that doesn’t attack us & is willing to dismantle terror infrastructure, India should certainly try & resolve the territorial issue. But there hasn’t been a single such govt. Incentives drive behaviours. Pak has no incentive to change.
ravishingravi Posted October 13 Posted October 13 1 hour ago, randomGuy said: Saad rizvi is shot. @ravishingravi Now we have to ask ourselves. What happens next. Am i delusional to see apparent break up of Pakistan ? India on the right. Afghanistan on the left. Baloch and Pushtun inside. TLP now turning again. Imran party waiting for their chance. Imran changing kpk governor from inside the jail. This is it folks. It's happening. Question of time. randomGuy 1
MechEng Posted October 13 Posted October 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, ravishingravi said: Now we have to ask ourselves. What happens next. Am i delusional to see apparent break up of Pakistan ? India on the right. Afghanistan on the left. Baloch and Pushtun inside. TLP now turning again. Imran party waiting for their chance. Imran changing kpk governor from inside the jail. This is it folks. It's happening. Question of time. Nothing will happen to Pakistan as long as USD is the reserve currency. Pakmil will enjoy unlimited cash flow until then Edited October 13 by MechEng
bsriharsha Posted October 13 Posted October 13 19 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Taliban says 58 Pak soldiers are dead so far. Pak says the number is 23, while the Afghan side 200+ sepoys are dead. Taliban is no match for Pak, but it can cause serious dent to their civil society and military casulties courtesy of guerilla warfare. Pashtuns and Balochs are going to cause more havoc in Pakistan now. We need to arm the Taliban, given them guns and weapons. Iran wouldn't mind as well, so use the Chabahar port and choke the Pakistan. Hope Indian Govt isn't napping on this issue due to Bihar elections. Nope. Pathans attacking pathans will play havoc with the Pakistani mindset. Let them both attack each other , at some point the narrative will shift against Pakistan and they'll be forced into a wrong move.
gattaca Posted October 13 Posted October 13 8 hours ago, bsriharsha said: Nope. Pathans attacking pathans will play havoc with the Pakistani mindset. Let them both attack each other , at some point the narrative will shift against Pakistan and they'll be forced into a wrong move. What wrong move can pak can make which it didn’t do already ? Kidnapped multiple KPK residents added them to missing list , sent back lakhs of afghans back, Claims Durand line as the border.
jf1gp_1 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 I am unclear on what's happening. There are two events a) afghans and pak army clash on border b) Pakistani police clash with some internal radical group. Is that correct ? Meanwhile sarif nominates trump for Nobel peace prize for next year. Then they claim they beat India few months back. So desperate not to get into any conflict with india right now.
singhvivek141 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 2 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: I am unclear on what's happening. There are two events a) afghans and pak army clash on border b) Pakistani police clash with some internal radical group. Is that correct ? Meanwhile sarif nominates trump for Nobel peace prize for next year. Then they claim they beat India few months back. So desperate not to get into any conflict with india right now. A) Afghan & Pak clash on border. B) On Iran-Gaza war, Pakistan agreed US peace plan..where Pak soldiers will play the role of security guard and push the Palestinians...thereby creating a buffer zone between Gaza & IDF. The internal group TLP, sees this as an act of mischief against the "innocent Palestinians in Gaza" and started protesting in Pakjab against Military establishment. Pak military, being the way they behave...started using bullets against TLP supporters. Problem is TLP has core infiltration in Police and significant part of Pak Army as well. So, this is causing a civil war like situation. Everyone is fighting amongst themselves who's a better Momin.
jf1gp_1 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 9 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: A) Afghan & Pak clash on border. B) On Iran-Gaza war, Pakistan agreed US peace plan..where Pak soldiers will play the role of security guard and push the Palestinians...thereby creating a buffer zone between Gaza & IDF. The internal group TLP, sees this as an act of mischief against the "innocent Palestinians in Gaza" and started protesting in Pakjab against Military establishment. Pak military, being the way they behave...started using bullets against TLP supporters. Problem is TLP has core infiltration in Police and significant part of Pak Army as well. So, this is causing a civil war like situation. Everyone is fighting amongst themselves who's a better Momin. Pakistan has never recognised Israel. So if it's army is creating a buffer in Gaza then what's the problem.
singhvivek141 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 32 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: Pakistan has never recognised Israel. So if it's army is creating a buffer in Gaza then what's the problem. Well, it doesn't matter what Pak believes in, if US orders them to do something, they will do it, no questions asked. Problem is, the Palestinians dont agree with the peace points given by US, hence, TLP which has soft corner for Gaza, are resisting the Pak's involvement in this deal. In their view, Pakistan is acting as a security guard for IDF (upon orders of US). I saw some videos where they were calling this as Black September 2.0.
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