rollingstoned Posted October 26 Posted October 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: What the hell is this line up. If we go to NZ they better carry a couple of swing bowlers. Up and down hit the deck bowlers are easy to negotiate England, Saf and Australia all got success here without floaty swing bowlers. Even Bangladeshs won a test here with that Ebadot guy who is not a swing bowler. Ofc it also depends on what pitches we are given. Edited October 26 by rollingstoned Lone Wolf 1
Lone Wolf Posted October 26 Posted October 26 29 minutes ago, rollingstoned said: England, Saf and Australia all got success here without floaty swing bowlers. Even Bangladeshs won a test here with that Ebadot guy who is not a swing bowler. Ofc it also depends on what pitches we are given. India never gets to play in Bay Oval MM where BD won the test match. Pak nearly drew a test there... Naseem Shah almost took it to the last over before Santner got him out. India plays only in Grassy Wellington and Christchurch. In 2014 we were given better pitches... Dhoni Jaddu failed to finish off an epic chase in Auckland Eden Park. rollingstoned 1
NameGoesHere Posted October 26 Posted October 26 The fk kinda game they playing ova dere? https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-in-new-zealand-2025-26-1491677/new-zealand-vs-england-1st-odi-1491720/full-scorecard Harry Brooks scores 135 off 101. England scores 230 in 35 overs. And now NZ about chasing it down, need 17 in 95 with 5 wickets down. Harry Brooks, I said goddamn son.
Lone Wolf Posted October 26 Posted October 26 N Smith Zakary Foulkes are all capable batters. Kiwis too have plethora of all rounders on their bench.
putrevus Posted October 26 Posted October 26 (edited) Wow , what a knock from Brook. I have to watch highlights.Scorecard reminds me of Kapil Dev's 175 Edited October 26 by putrevus
vvvslaxman Posted October 26 Posted October 26 ALl said and done that was a highly disruptive innings. You always need a disruptor in your line up. SOmeone who can counter attack. Apart from Pant India has no disruptors in the middle order. Axar sometimes does. But he doesn't have the smae pedigree as some elite counter attacking players. We just play methodically. I know ROhit plays. But he starts that when the score is 0/0. Now 20/4 or something like that.
vvvslaxman Posted October 26 Posted October 26 6 hours ago, NameGoesHere said: The fk kinda game they playing ova dere? https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-in-new-zealand-2025-26-1491677/new-zealand-vs-england-1st-odi-1491720/full-scorecard Harry Brooks scores 135 off 101. England scores 230 in 35 overs. And now NZ about chasing it down, need 17 in 95 with 5 wickets down. Harry Brooks, I said goddamn son. I started watching after he got to 50. He took a lot of chances. It just came off. I remember watching a test in NZ where England was in dire straits. Brook employed similar counter attacking innings. In NZ counter attack has full value as grounds are small. Ball just flies. Nathan Astle long back chasing 575 scored 228 ro something with injured Cairns. They failed. But still it was entertaining. NameGoesHere 1
cowboysfan Posted October 26 Posted October 26 it's so easy for these tiny countries to find fast bowlers and we are stuck with the Prasidh Krishnas of the world.
vvvslaxman Posted October 26 Posted October 26 14 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: it's so easy for these tiny countries to find fast bowlers and we are stuck with the Prasidh Krishnas of the world. Fast bowling coaching is poor in India. Their coaching is highly structural. In this PDF document they have details for each department. India can easily hire these guys as coach for fast bowling. https://play.nzc.nz/sites/default/files/2024-03/NZC_E-Manual_Interactive_280323 ADV DEV UPDATED 2.pdf MRF academy has given us some bowlers like Srinath, Zak. Nowadays we don't see any from academy. Mcgrath is MRF academy director now. India can definitely make use of facility to train fast bowlers. If it is not enough India needs to build one. What the hell are these guys doign with all that money
tapandrun Posted October 26 Posted October 26 (edited) proper playing on different pitch innings in true sense by brook. nz bowlers hardly beat him. may be only 1 miss hit to a slower ball. 11 sixes in his innings Edited October 26 by tapandrun
Stan AF Posted October 28 Posted October 28 (edited) Yesterday some excellent batting by Harry brook. He dragged the innings from complete chaos to a respectable 224. Had he not run out of partners , a 200 was inevitable. He made 135 out of the total English score of 224 in just 100 balls. The last scoring shots were mostly only sixes by brook. He hit 11 sixes in total. Eng were allout for 223 in 35.2. That innings was preceded by some excellent new ball bowling by kiwis. They had poms on the mat at like 65 for 6. I think the next generation batters will surely obliterate all present day sixer records. Edited October 28 by Stan AF putrevus 1
tapandrun Posted October 29 Posted October 29 13 hours ago, Stan AF said: Yesterday some excellent batting by Harry brook. He dragged the innings from complete chaos to a respectable 224. Had he not run out of partners , a 200 was inevitable. He made 135 out of the total English score of 224 in just 100 balls. The last scoring shots were mostly only sixes by brook. He hit 11 sixes in total. Eng were allout for 223 in 35.2. That innings was preceded by some excellent new ball bowling by kiwis. They had poms on the mat at like 65 for 6. I think the next generation batters will surely obliterate all present day sixer records. Yes batters are stronger and fitter, has better six hitting techniques. The only solution is to get bigger boundaries. They tried to reduce the bat sizes , now changed the ball change rules.
vvvslaxman Posted October 29 Posted October 29 WHat a downfall. England is looking more and more like an associate side in the ODIs.
Cloud Posted October 29 Posted October 29 Eng batters don't play odi's like 50 over games. They play it like an extended T20 game
vvvslaxman Posted October 29 Posted October 29 When it comes to biding time New zealand is the best. They have so many on-demand Pujaras. Once opposition takes the foot of the gas they are all over you.
rollingstoned Posted October 29 Posted October 29 Ball doing a lot. Mama survived because Buttler didn't go fwd enough earlier.
rollingstoned Posted October 29 Posted October 29 8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: When it comes to biding time New zealand is the best. They have so many on-demand Pujaras. Once opposition takes the foot of the gas they are all over you. Good at playing methodical cricket, don't have many Mavericks generally and don't brutalize you.
Gollum Posted October 29 Posted October 29 NZ clinch the series. Mama saving his best for WI STAT: New Zealand's last bilateral ODI series win over England was in 2013 (away). The last series win against England at home was in 2008.
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