ravishingravi Posted October 23 Posted October 23 From my pov, these tariff discussions dont make sense if there is no FTA. Otherwise rules can be changed overnight and all these discussions will amount to nothing.
pkmmamks Posted October 24 Posted October 24 https://m.rediff.com/news/commentary/2025/oct/24/will-comply-with-us-sanctions-on-russian-oil-reliance/28b1f2f210daadbdfaf9e50c4a9e6489
IndianRenegade Posted October 24 Posted October 24 (edited) On 10/23/2025 at 6:15 AM, ravishingravi said: From my pov, these tariff discussions dont make sense if there is no FTA. Otherwise rules can be changed overnight and all these discussions will amount to nothing. they amount to nothing. Canada agreed to a deal which Trump negotiated in 2019, now the same deal is Unfair. Trump can call Canada its 51st state, can inlust their PM as governer, but they can't refer to Regan's views on Tariffs. Whatever India agrees to will be unfair depending on the side of bed dear leader sleeps on. In a way the Indian approach is beginning to grow on me. Take the hits now, rather than giving concessions & then taking hits from a much worse position. Edited October 24 by IndianRenegade G_B_, ravishingravi and raki05 1 1 1
G_B_ Posted October 24 Posted October 24 These deals are not worth paper they are written on. I think india doing right thing by not reacting. Ride it out untill mid terms. ravishingravi and raki05 1 1
ravishingravi Posted October 25 Posted October 25 11 hours ago, IndianRenegade said: they amount to nothing. Canada agreed to a deal which Trump negotiated in 2019, now the same deal is Unfair. Trump can call Canada its 51st state, can inlust their PM as governer, but they can't refer to Regan's views on Tariffs. Whatever India agrees to will be unfair depending on the side of bed dear leader sleeps on. In a way the Indian approach is beginning to grow on me. Take the hits now, rather than giving concessions & then taking hits from a much worse position. What you are seeing is the slow mainstreaming of indian way of dealing with things. Strategic patience. Of course it doesn't work all the time. But in this situation, this is the approach. Don't panic. Don't get rushed. Wait for an opening. Wait could be till 2029. So be it. G_B_ and raki05 1 1
G_B_ Posted October 25 Posted October 25 2 hours ago, ravishingravi said: What you are seeing is the slow mainstreaming of indian way of dealing with things. Strategic patience. Of course it doesn't work all the time. But in this situation, this is the approach. Don't panic. Don't get rushed. Wait for an opening. Wait could be till 2029. So be it. Maldives comes to mind... I think china rare earth push has changed a lot of views in the usa on "partners". In next 10 years i think usa gdp will be less than china and india combined. India still has to negociate buying russian oil n weapons and keeping trade with usa ravishingravi and raki05 1 1
ravishingravi Posted October 25 Posted October 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, G_B_ said: Maldives comes to mind... I think china rare earth push has changed a lot of views in the usa on "partners". In next 10 years i think usa gdp will be less than china and india combined. India still has to negociate buying russian oil n weapons and keeping trade with usa Generally speaking, China has more negotiating leverage because CCP doesn't have to contest elections and its maintains the core supply chain. US president cannot call for austerity from its citizens or ask them to accept higher inflation or ask them to work in factory to work $10 an hour. India on the other hand has limited leverage but it has citizenry with low expectations. Build a world class bridge or airport and get 3 more years of advocacy for yourself. India's rare earth is GCC, 1.4 billion population and consumption led economy. Edited October 25 by ravishingravi G_B_ 1
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