Australian Women's World Cup Players Molested In Indore, Accused Arrested

[nitinbwj]

So there is security for chhapri Pandya and other Lallu panju male cricketers and no security for world cup players. WTF ! Who is the manager incharge of Aus cricket team. I'm pretty sure they must have informed him/her before venturing out. Security is a must. Lots of mcs chhapris roaming around and this scum was a criminal 

[crictime]

3 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Should be hanged for embarrassing billions of us

Do not think hang until death is the punishment for this offense. Certainly must be few years of jail atleast ? 

[Suhaan]

Just now, crictime said:

Do not think hang until death is the punishment for this offense. Certainly must be few years of jail atleast ? 

There should be fear of death in their pervert eyes

No amount of free jail ki roti dal can ever change them

Death is ultimate fear for everyone,it should hover over their heads all the time if they ever think of such things

[Gollum]

To hell with India's reputation, a lot of the hate we get is justified to be frank. 

 

Just thinking about this incident gives me the chills, if VIP tourists/WC players of the top ranked cricket team in the world aren't safe on our streets the moment they step out of their 5 star hotels, imagine the plight of Indian women going about their business or traveling in public transport and on footpaths !!!!

 

No government has addressed this issue of women's safety till date. 1000 promises but zero improvement. 

[Gollum]

15 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

Not doing bad at the moment. SA are 43-4 

Real credit to their mental toughness. Not easy after such a harrowing incident. 

[nitinbwj]

3 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Real credit to their mental toughness. Not easy after such a harrowing incident. 

or SA's choking genes. 

[Gollum]

10 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

There should be fear of death in their pervert eyes

No amount of free jail ki roti dal can ever change them

Death is ultimate fear for everyone,it should hover over their heads all the time if they ever think of such things

Though unconstitutional, I can't bring myself to condemn encounters and bulldozer raj because of this. In a country like India, normal rules don't apply. Judges will let rapists walk free and make rich brats write apology letters after they mow down innocents in their BMWs. India can't be governed like developed countries, need to instill some fear in the minds of the wrongdoers. 

 

ME countries are far from perfect but people will think a million times before even attempting something like this, because of the disproportionate response by the authorities there. Women tourists are far safer in Dubai than anywhere else in the world. 

 

If Middle East is an extreme example, follow Singapore's model. Lee Kuan Yew made some unpopular decisions but they worked out in the long run. 

[New guy]

11 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

There should be fear of death in their pervert eyes

No amount of free jail ki roti dal can ever change them

Death is ultimate fear for everyone,it should hover over their heads all the time if they ever think of such things

Nah, multiple studies have shown the harshness of punishment including death sentence have no deterence in crime.

 

And it's common sense. No criminal does anything with expectations of getting caught. So they are not worried whether sentence is two years or death. Do you think they think - oh it's ok for me to go to jail for 2 years? What they think is - I will get away with this. 

 

 

 

What actually deters criminal is the chances of getting caught and convicted. 

 

And in India every day these guys keep doing this without being caught and some who do are barely convicted and get away with lawyers after cases run for yearsm

 

There is a reason why the European countries with the most lenient punishment have the least crime.

 

Harshness of punishment doesn't stop criminals or strike fear in them. The possibility of getting caught and convicted does.

[Gollum]

1 minute ago, New guy said:

Nah, multiple studies have shown the harshness of punishment including death sentence have no deterence in crime.

 

And it's common sense. No criminal does anything with expectations of getting caught. So they are not worried whether sentence is two years or death. Do you think they think - oh it's ok for me to go to jail for 2 years? What they think is - I will get away with this. 

 

 

 

What actually deters criminal is the chances of getting caught and convicted. 

 

And in India every day these guys keep doing this without being caught and some who do are barely convicted and get away with lawyers after cases run for yearsm

 

There is a reason why the European countries with the most lenient punishment have the least crime.

 

Harshness of punishment doesn't stop criminals or strike fear in them. The possibility of getting caught and convicted does.

In theory I agree with you. Also death penalties will probably make rapists kill the victims and dispose off the bodies, remove evidence thoroughly etc.

 

But do you think we can apply the European model here. Are our institutions strong enough? Don't you think we will be served better by the UAE or Singapore model? 

[New guy]

13 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Though unconstitutional, I can't bring myself to condemn encounters and bulldozer raj because of this. In a country like India, normal rules don't apply. Judges will let rapists walk free and make rich brats write apology letters after they mow down innocents in their BMWs. India can't be governed like developed countries, need to instill some fear in the minds of the wrongdoers. 

 

ME countries are far from perfect but people will think a million times before even attempting something like this, because of the disproportionate response by the authorities there. Women tourists are far safer in Dubai than anywhere else in the world. 

 

If Middle East is an extreme example, follow Singapore's model. Lee Kuan Yew made some unpopular decisions but they worked out in the long run. 

The problem with that, is our police is even more corrupt than the judiciary and often in politicians pockets. It's one of the most corrupt police in the world.

 

So how can you trust them to act as judge, jury and executioners? They will either be used to take revenge for politicians or will kill innocent people to close cases. 

 

Shortcuts never improved law and order in any country but always makes it worse.

Edited October 25 by New guy

[New guy]

4 minutes ago, Gollum said:

In theory I agree with you. Also death penalties will probably make rapists kill the victims and dispose off the bodies, remove evidence thoroughly etc.

 

But do you think we can apply the European model here. Are our institutions strong enough? Don't you think we will be served better by the UAE or Singapore model? 

In both UAE and Singapore, arrest and conviction rates are among the highest in the world. That is what causes low crime rates, not the fear of punishment, but the guarantee that you will be caught and convicted if you commit any crime.

 

It is this aspect of law and order which reduces and deters crime. 

[putrevus]

I see many are worried about the embarrassment forgetting the fact  that Indian women especially young ones. have to constantly deal with these rapists.

 

There is no freedom for them to even work, they have to deal with these bastards  everywhere.

[Gollum]

2 minutes ago, New guy said:

The problem with that, is our police is even more corrupt than the judiciary and often in politicians pockets. It's one of the most corrupt police in the world.

 

So how can you trust them to act as judge, jury and executioners? Theh will either be used to take revenge for politicians or will kill innocent people to close cases. 

 

Shortcuts never improved law and order in any country but always makes it worse.

I agree, very conflicted about this. Because police can get it wrong or may be compromised...never see rich brats encountered, always people from marginalized sections. 

 

Always after such cases, in short term I want encounters, because of the rage I feel.  But with passing of time I prefer the lawful response. 

[New guy]

3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I see many are worried about the embarrassment forgetting the fact  that Indian women especially young ones. have to constantly deal with these rapists.

 

There is no freedom for them to even work, they have to deal with these bastards  everywhere.

There is a reason every single study and survey shows india in the most unsafest country for women in the world.

 

And when that happens the usual suspects deny reality or come up with conspiracy theories. 

[Tillu]

India getting liberal is the only way to curtail this menace. Indian youth are sexually repressed which leads to deviant sexual behaviour like this.

 

On one hand you have Bollywood and other movie industries showing half naked ladies and then asking these guys to practice celibacy wouldn't work.

Edited October 25 by Tillu

[New guy]

Just now, Tillu said:

India getting liberal is the only way to curtail this menace. Indian youth are sexually repressed which leads to deviant sexual behaviour like this.

Also they know they can get away with it. 

[putrevus]

3 minutes ago, New guy said:

There is a reason every single study and survey shows india in the most unsafest country for women in the world.

 

And when that happens the usual suspects deny reality or come up with conspiracy theories. 

When you have idiot chief minister of state  that too a woman blaming and shaming the victim for staying out late what can anyone expect from the rapists.

 

Indian culture is supposed to worship women but here they are being treated as mere toys for these bastards to use and throw.

[Lone Wolf]

India has to bring back forced sterilization programs in selected portions of the country...  Identify the region, demography by productivity/ lawfulness metric and unleash the full force of the might of the union.

 

Britishers actually gave us a ideal blueprint that this country can only be properly governed with rule of fist and iron hand on the judiciary.

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

What a terrible tragedy. That it happened in Indore is even more shocking. One of the safest cities in India but then pervert criminals are lurking everywhere with no fear of law and order authority. Should lead to stern action against those in charge of security apparatus and a proper criminal lesson for the pervert.

 

I was at Kotla recently for the WI test, was shocking to see police force sitting in the stands all across the ground in groups and indulging in loose talk. Such lax attitude, mediocrity with a casual chalta hai attitude all around. Was true 30 years back, is true now.

[Lone Wolf]

7 minutes ago, Tillu said:

India getting liberal is the only way to curtail this menace. Indian youth are sexually repressed which leads to deviant sexual behaviour like this.

India going liberal at current pci standard...would be disastrous for the society and will destroy the social fabric of the union.

 

Minimum 9-10k pci should be standard to start pushing liberalism within the society.

Edited October 25 by Lone Wolf