vvvslaxman Posted November 3 Posted November 3 Cricket teams have good support system to handle religious trolls. They back each other.Oflate i see a trend of people using images of cricketers at temple to brag about Hinduism. Pragg with vibuthi on his forehad was also used for the very same purpose. But when you see Devout christian like Djokovich thanking heavens we don't really talk about it because it is his personal faith. That is how it should be and used to be. Suddenly players thanking god has become a topic of discussion. Cricket fans shouldn't side with these trolls. Lord 1
raki05 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 2 hours ago, New guy said: Only if it's majority of the powerful doing it. For example when christians from European nations came and destroyed american or Australian natives. When minorities are allowed to flourish in a country it's not the same thing, in fact it's the opposite thing. What you are advocating is what the British and other fascists did. That the majority should use force to wipe out minorities in the country and stifle them. That's the path to destruction for any country. Lol this guy just because you are minorities you dont need to downplay others. Flourishing doesnt mean you try to convert majority through ricebag or by fource. Hindus never run conversion campaign since prehistoric era till now it was always done by followers from abrahmic faith . So stop bullshitting that hindus are quashing minorities. All minorities population has increased significantly and i belive few religion shouldn’t be treated as minorities especially when the dont believe in nation rather brotherhood and their population is highest across globe. As said before just because you are minorities you are not allowed to undermine other gods or says thing like stalin fid that sanatan is dengue maleria. So stop preaching hindus and Indians when they never ran across the globe to propagate and force their religion on others. GoldenSun 1
Nikhil_cric Posted November 3 Posted November 3 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: If Indian nonminority players start doing that then it will be called majoritarian and fascism. It's fine till minority is doing that. It's perfectly secular for them. Nobody will call it fascism if someone thanks their personal god/diety. GoldenSun and Lord 2
raki05 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 49 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Lebanon ? All eoropran country are on its way to be getting destroyed wheras look at china by reforming islam how successful they are. Laaloo 1
raki05 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 26 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Cricket teams have good support system to handle religious trolls. They back each other.Oflate i see a trend of people using images of cricketers at temple to brag about Hinduism. Pragg with vibuthi on his forehad was also used for the very same purpose. But when you see Devout christian like Djokovich thanking heavens we don't really talk about it because it is his personal faith. That is how it should be and used to be. Suddenly players thanking god has become a topic of discussion. Cricket fans shouldn't side with these trolls. But she tried to undermine other gods , its fine to thank god but you see with abrahmic faith they always present it in a way that their religion is best. You dont have to say because i am follower of jesus i was able to do it. Imagine if sharma said because i am disciple of Ganpati Bappa i was able to hit triple double century. I know one guy who is jumping here would have called him bigot, rss sympathisers and bjp andhbhakt. See you cant make 2 measuring scales especially in a democracy.
Popular Post maniac Posted November 3 Popular Post Posted November 3 (edited) There are 2 different things here- Undeniable fact 1- Jemimah is a Team India player and superstar. She was extremely popular even before that knock. 0 problems with her Christian faith, I mean it’s not like she is hiding it. Her name is “Jemimah Rodrigues”. She is neither the first Christian or so called minority to represent India either in cricket or any other sport . As an Indian girl making it to top level in sports itself is a big deal , doesn’t matter which community you are from, in a country like India is a huge achievement. undeniable fact 2- missionaries are a menace in India. Firstly you can’t upsell your own religion without putting down the local culture. On top of that various coercion methods have been deployed over the years not just nuisance value but also as a national security threat. now you might say what has point 2 got to do with Jemimah, yes she has nothing to do with this, she is a young kid enjoying her game and stardom and what she does in her personal life is her choice in terms of faith or anything else. However just ignoring the root cause of where this bias comes from is also stupid. Jemimah’s personal faith itself is not the problem. Involvement with missionaries and their activities are an issue, just like if some non-terrorist Muslim guy supports ISIS or Al Qaeda, people will look at him differently, while this is not at that level. Her connection or her family connection with Missionary activity is something that will be never be acceptable to the normal Indian society. It is what it is. So let’s not get too touchy. We can separate her on field performance from her faith but if off field activities overshadow on field performance, then no need to cry a river. Edited November 3 by maniac raki05, Laaloo, GoldenSun and 7 others 1 4 5
Lord Posted November 3 Posted November 3 6 hours ago, raki05 said: Sorry i dont know context but isnt she mentioned somewhere because she is follower of jesus she was able to do something like this kind of undermining other gods. She could have simply said thanks to god or jesus rather than comparing with other gods. Now none of these should take away her final heroics but these kind of comments always attract trolling. I don’t think she compared with other gods
raki05 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 9 hours ago, vayuu1 said: Toh kya karey apni aankhon ke saamne apne logo ko foreign missionaries ke haatho lutne de The guy whom you are having discussion gets funding to abuse our democratic fabric , he is eco chamber trained tool kit. He is ok with conversion, love jihad just to promote minorities. People like him are responsible for the past where first they converted seeing opportunity to connive with invaders and then they created another coontry but still remained in India to feast on it as leach so that they can do complete annihilation. rollingstoned, Laaloo, singhvivek141 and 1 other 4
raki05 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 4 minutes ago, Lord said: I don’t think she compared with other gods I read somewhere …. All i am saying is cricket is not the place to propagate religion, thanking god is fine but bringing priest bowing to him and keep repeating jesus this, that doesnt go well with many. She has shown great character and played absolute jam of an inning but should have avoided attracting this backlash. One more thing teitter is not the place to judge people as i have seen in past ispr and pooks pretend as indian to attack our minorities players. Who can forget Arshdeep and Shami incident where it was well orgainised propaganda by pakistani handler yo abuse shami and Arshdeep pretending as an indian. Lord, rollingstoned, Suhaan and 2 others 5
vvvslaxman Posted November 3 Posted November 3 28 minutes ago, raki05 said: But she tried to undermine other gods , its fine to thank god but you see with abrahmic faith they always present it in a way that their religion is best. You dont have to say because i am follower of jesus i was able to do it. Imagine if sharma said because i am disciple of Ganpati Bappa i was able to hit triple double century. I know one guy who is jumping here would have called him bigot, rss sympathisers and bjp andhbhakt. See you cant make 2 measuring scales especially in a democracy. She just thanked Jesus. Vast majority of her teammates are Hindus. My point is that should not even be a topic of discussion at this moment. Actual your God vs my God is fuelled mainly by handles associated with Hindutva. Not her. She was trolled right through the tournament. I am not talking about religious discrimination also misogyny Lord and BacktoCricaddict 2
vvvslaxman Posted November 3 Posted November 3 20 minutes ago, raki05 said: I read somewhere …. All i am saying is cricket is not the place to propagate religion, thanking god is fine but bringing priest bowing to him and keep repeating jesus this, that doesnt go well with many. She has shown great character and played absolute jam of an inning but should have avoided attracting this backlash. One more thing teitter is not the place to judge people as i have seen in past ispr and pooks pretend as indian to attack our minorities players. Who can forget Arshdeep and Shami incident where it was well orgainised propaganda by pakistani handler yo abuse shami and Arshdeep pretending as an indian. Yes twitter is a cesspool. But unfortunately that is where all the attention is. Think how Kohli fanboys shared Gavaskars 32 in world cup to troll him because he criticized Kohli. It became so viral some journalists requesting kohli to stop his fans from trolling. raki05 1
maniac Posted November 3 Posted November 3 3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Yes twitter is a cesspool. But unfortunately that is where all the attention is. Think how Kohli fanboys shared Gavaskars 32 in world cup to troll him because he criticized Kohli. It became so viral some journalists requesting kohli to stop his fans from trolling. Cmon bro you can’t pick examples from the lowest common denominator scum and apply it to a larger cricket community raki05 and rollingstoned 1 1
vvvslaxman Posted November 3 Posted November 3 5 minutes ago, maniac said: Cmon bro you can’t pick examples from the lowest common denominator scum and apply it to a larger cricket community You know that is printed on regular media witha title "Social.media reacts". Bumrah is one guy regularly watches tweets and he sometimes even responds to some tweets. All these things do reach players. Bumrah is still subjected to non stop trolling by kohli fans.
aflacl Posted November 3 Posted November 3 1 hour ago, Lord said: I don’t think she compared with other gods One does not have to be explicit about it. Calling someone for conversion ( by talking or by doing stage dramas )essentially means you are undermining their religion. Hey come to my religion. Its better than yours. Ahmed Shehzad said only in one religion one goes straight to heaven. Explicitly he did not compare with other Gods, but implicitly he did. Suhaan and raki05 1 1
raki05 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: She just thanked Jesus. Vast majority of her teammates are Hindus. My point is that should not even be a topic of discussion at this moment. Actual your God vs my God is fuelled mainly by handles associated with Hindutva. Not her. She was trolled right through the tournament. I am not talking about religious discrimination also misogyny How so you know those who trolled were hindus…. Thats just your subconscious bias. Just like others you are also assuming based on twitter. Misogyny is not limited to her , if you see harmanpreet , mandana everyone is trolled for some or other reason, mithali raj was trolled post 2017 wc fiasco. But Jemima is getting attention due to her religious alignment. Thanking god is good but over displaying religious alignment in sports is not good. Tell me if rohit would have not trolled or kohli if they would uave used Ganpati bappa morya or jai mata di after asia cup ot ct victories. Same people who are lecturing would have called them sanghi, bigot or how they are trying to appease modi, shah or how nepo kod shah has brain washed cricket team to follow hindutva. rollingstoned 1
aflacl Posted November 3 Posted November 3 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: She just thanked Jesus. Vast majority of her teammates are Hindus. My point is that should not even be a topic of discussion at this moment. Actual your God vs my God is fuelled mainly by handles associated with Hindutva. Not her. She was trolled right through the tournament. I am not talking about religious discrimination also misogyny Your God vs My God is fueled by " there is no God but my God" This statement insults others Gods and you can take a guess who says this. raki05 and Laaloo 1 1
vvvslaxman Posted November 3 Posted November 3 36 minutes ago, raki05 said: How so you know those who trolled were hindus…. Thats just your subconscious bias. Just like others you are also assuming based on twitter. Misogyny is not limited to her , if you see harmanpreet , mandana everyone is trolled for some or other reason, mithali raj was trolled post 2017 wc fiasco. But Jemima is getting attention due to her religious alignment. Thanking god is good but over displaying religious alignment in sports is not good. Tell me if rohit would have not trolled or kohli if they would uave used Ganpati bappa morya or jai mata di after asia cup ot ct victories. Same people who are lecturing would have called them sanghi, bigot or how they are trying to appease modi, shah or how nepo kod shah has brain washed cricket team to follow hindutva. Handle was Hindutva with Bluetick. Most of the handles that trolled her had so many hateful posts in their feed. It kept appearing on my feed even though i kept blocking them. I am sure it appears on their feed as well. I am talking about trolling others as well for misogyny. Religion was not a big part of discussion before social media. Lord 1
vvvslaxman Posted November 3 Posted November 3 38 minutes ago, aflacl said: Your God vs My God is fueled by " there is no God but my God" This statement insults others Gods and you can take a guess who says this. I know within Hindus people fight my god vs your god which is silly as well. Iyers vs Iyengars fight is well known in TN. Just say God and move on. Most Hindus use the word Jeez as an expression commonly. We are don't really have problem with that. God is powerful enough to handle insults. They don't need assistance. Lord 1
Lord Posted November 3 Posted November 3 1 hour ago, aflacl said: One does not have to be explicit about it. Calling someone for conversion ( by talking or by doing stage dramas )essentially means you are undermining their religion. Hey come to my religion. Its better than yours. Ahmed Shehzad said only in one religion one goes straight to heaven. Explicitly he did not compare with other Gods, but implicitly he did. That has not been proven yet though. Religious meeting is different than conversion and is allowed.
vayuu1 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Handle was Hindutva with Bluetick. Most of the handles that trolled her had so many hateful posts in their feed. It kept appearing on my feed even though i kept blocking them. I am sure it appears on their feed as well. I am talking about trolling others as well for misogyny. Religion was not a big part of discussion before social media. https://www.firstpost.com/india/how-hindutva-is-the-hinduism-that-resists-10150231.html kepler37b 1
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