mishra Posted December 5, 2025 Author Posted December 5, 2025 (edited) @ravishingravi Russia is Super Power. India is a major Power. Since Indepenedence of India or Post world war 2, All other powers (US UK) knew that they must not let Russia enter into India or India enter into Russia, else India too will quickly become a Super Power and fully alied with Russia(Read History of partition of India and how Churchil saw India to become future Super Power unless partitioned in 17 countries or why exactly Wakhaan Corridor along with Gilgit was given to Pakistan). So to cut them off, Many states were created including Pakistan and post USSR more new states have emerged between India and Russia. Russia individually means Resources rich. India indiviadually means people rich. But together they mean Resouce Rich People Both countries know very well that if they dont hang out togetherr, They will be hanged individually by other Super Powers. Effectively there is no alternative viable option for either India or Russia. Its a question of survival of our Nations future generations Edited December 5, 2025 by mishra ravishingravi, singhvivek141 and raki05 1 2
singhvivek141 Posted December 5, 2025 Posted December 5, 2025 5 hours ago, mishra said: @ravishingravi Russia is Super Power. India is a major Power. Since Indepenedence of India or Post world war 2, All other powers (US UK) knew that they must not let Russia enter into India or India enter into Russia, else India too will quickly become a Super Power and fully alied with Russia(Read History of partition of India and how Churchil saw India to become future Super Power unless partitioned in 17 countries or why exactly Wakhaan Corridor along with Gilgit was given to Pakistan). So to cut them off, Many states were created including Pakistan and post USSR more new states have emerged between India and Russia. Russia individually means Resources rich. India indiviadually means people rich. But together they mean Resouce Rich People Both countries know very well that if they dont hang out togetherr, They will be hanged individually by other Super Powers. Effectively there is no alternative viable option for either India or Russia. Its a question of survival of our Nations future generations Exactly This is the key thing which scares the west....to some extent had China been wiser...RIC (or BRIC) would have easily overtaken US in terms of tech, human resource and minerals. Brazil is another nation which has immense potential and has dared to come out from the shadows of US. raki05 1
singhvivek141 Posted December 6, 2025 Posted December 6, 2025 19 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: R37m is technically given. Kinzhals maybe in time. But Su57 and Su75 these deals ain't happening behind closed door. This stuff can't be kept secret in the first place. They have been discarded most likely. Reckon Indians are only interested in S400 new order , R37M, Super Sukhois, Brahmos 2, Akula SSN lease and an off chance Kinzhals. Nuclear power plant projects, and rocket engines collabs is a likely add on. This is frankly the best possible deals we can make with Ruskies That company ceo robocon something have come to India with Putin. He wont come for nothing. These discussion would have been done prior before calling the oligarchs. raki05 and ravishingravi 1 1
singhvivek141 Posted December 6, 2025 Posted December 6, 2025 The amount of welcome Putin got...thats an example in itself. West tried to portray him as villian...failed badly raki05 1
singhvivek141 Posted December 7, 2025 Posted December 7, 2025 On 12/6/2025 at 1:30 PM, ravishingravi said: US was always alone, US created slaves and not partners. Each and every NATO country, US tried to play political games, pushed it's agenda on their society and even tried to armtwist their global and internal narratives. Not saying UK, France are saints...but the US have pushed them in the harm's way while keeping it's borders safe from the conflict. To top that, US sided with Pakistan post Op Sindoor so that they can keep India, China, RUssia and Iran in check...even played their cards in Bangladesh and toppled a democratically selected regime. Russia (or USSR) even during their powerful days never done that, they pushed agenda via KGB...but the amount of infiltration CIA and Pentagon has done in their slave countries in unimaginable. Japan, South Korea, Saudi were arm-twisted to give bases on US military. Anyway, with the changing world order, and supposedly multi-polarity of the world. US (and China) will eventually have to adjust their ways of working.
mishra Posted December 8, 2025 Author Posted December 8, 2025 https://www.eurasiantimes.com/ Above Portal has many interesting opinion pieces. i refer them when i need alternate opinion away from main stream noise
mishra Posted December 9, 2025 Author Posted December 9, 2025 (edited) Russian Oligarchs have been making money in India by selling weapons, mineral,energy in past. That money was then going to Russia and then the same Oligarchs were investing/spending that money in West in various assets (Car House stocks football team stock market funds etc) and indutries . Why, Because Western Dollar and system was being considered as safe heaven. During this visit, Putin has said that there should be a fundamental shift. If India buys stuff from Russia, that money will be re used in India . So you buy s-500, that money will be used to invest in a manufacturing plant to build a defence equipment in India. Edited December 9, 2025 by mishra
G_B_ Posted December 21, 2025 Posted December 21, 2025 I think a lot of things were cut on the side but not announced. Only time will tell if this meeting between modi and putin was truly significant. There are rumours russia is giving the full range kalibr missile for indian subs (1500km land and 600km under the sea). Not the 250km limited export version. These will be deployed on our subs including scorpene. @singhvivek141 singhvivek141 1
singhvivek141 Posted December 22, 2025 Posted December 22, 2025 12 hours ago, G_B_ said: I think a lot of things were cut on the side but not announced. Only time will tell if this meeting between modi and putin was truly significant. There are rumours russia is giving the full range kalibr missile for indian subs (1500km land and 600km under the sea). Not the 250km limited export version. These will be deployed on our subs including scorpene. @singhvivek141 I remember one statement of then Def Minister George Fernandes about China being our no 1 enemy in 1997..everyone took a hit on him and called him what not. 28 years down the line and his statement is 100% correct, he knew something which wasnt known to public then. Putin visit is the same, we might not know it now. But its impact will be visible 15-20 years from today. So many discussions and deals are signed without openly calling out the specifics. Its no more a purchaser seller relationship, but rather a combined attempt to bring both nations closer. G_B_ 1
G_B_ Posted December 22, 2025 Posted December 22, 2025 3 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: I remember one statement of then Def Minister George Fernandes about China being our no 1 enemy in 1997..everyone took a hit on him and called him what not. 28 years down the line and his statement is 100% correct, he knew something which wasnt known to public then. Putin visit is the same, we might not know it now. But its impact will be visible 15-20 years from today. So many discussions and deals are signed without openly calling out the specifics. Its no more a purchaser seller relationship, but rather a combined attempt to bring both nations closer. Yup. Putin accutely aware russia needs india as a balance vs china. Threats to russia have come from its eastern flank historically. Lots of rumours russia will actively help in advancing the nuclear sub program. To be fair this modi gov dont like putting out details in public. There is also chatter than france has transferred upto 100 old mirage 2000 to india to be locally upgraded. They are being classified as spare parts. singhvivek141 and ravishingravi 2
mishra Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 (edited) https://www.rt.com/india/634610-india-is-future-west-is/ Its not on article but ambassador has 20+ mins of interview embedded in the article and in interview he confirms that SU-57 comp[lete ToT and many more have been offered to India. Some Answers: Question: India? Answer: future Qusetion: West? Anwer : Past Question: What would you like to see in India? Answer: Strength. We want a strong India Question: Multipolarity Answer: Inevitabity Edited March 12 by mishra
govinda Posted March 12 Posted March 12 7 hours ago, mishra said: https://www.rt.com/india/634610-india-is-future-west-is/ Its not on article but ambassador has 20+ mins of interview embedded in the article and in interview he confirms that SU-57 comp[lete ToT and many more have been offered to India. Some Answers: Question: India? Answer: future Qusetion: West? Anwer : Past Question: What would you like to see in India? Answer: Strength. We want a strong India Question: Multipolarity Answer: Inevitabity You shamelessly support a dictator like putin who killed many innocent Ukrainians. Ask your putin to make russia a liberal democracy not a dictatorship. I wish putin dies and russia breaks into 100 countries so that india can join usa camp
ravishingravi Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Just like Ultimately game of cricket is winner, Putin is the winner whoever is at war. mishra 1
mishra Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, govinda said: You shamelessly support a dictator like putin who killed many innocent Ukrainians. Ask your putin to make russia a liberal democracy not a dictatorship. I wish putin dies and russia breaks into 100 countries so that india can join usa camp How do you know so much about Russia? This thread is about Putins visit and what had happened between India and Russia. If you have anything to contribute, contribute, else jog in Edited March 12 by mishra
kepler37b Posted March 13 Posted March 13 8 hours ago, govinda said: You shamelessly support a dictator like putin who killed many innocent Ukrainians. Ask your putin to make russia a liberal democracy not a dictatorship. I wish putin dies and russia breaks into 100 countries so that india can join usa camp Dictators are every where. The Mullah's of Iran are even worse dictators. But his main crime was invading ukraine. And he is paying dearly for it. But, I give one thing to russia. Neither they are religious retards nor they try to crop up terrorist outfits in other countries.
mishra Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 Quote Russia ready to offer India high-precision air defense systems – sources Moscow is exploring the supply of Pantsir short-range air defense systems to New Delhi, a source has told RT Published 26 Mar, 2026 13:46 Russia is preparing to offer India additional capabilities to bolster the country’s strategic air defense posture, a source has told RT. The proposal could include Russian Pantsir short-range air defense systems, designed to help protect key military and strategic sites from mass attacks. The package, the sources said, would complement India’s existing air defense network, which already includes Russian-supplied systems as well as domestically developed platforms. ”Russia is ready to offer India the supply of Pantsir‑S1M surface‑to‑air missile and gun systems in order to provide effective protection for the country’s existing long‑range S‑400 Triumph systems,” a source close to the discussions told RT. The Pantsir‑S1M can effectively engage all types of aerodynamic targets, including unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), the source added. READ MORE: Here’s why India is rushing to acquire more Russian missiles The Indian military has publicly acknowledged the role of Russian‑built S‑400 systems during the military standoff with Pakistan in May 2025. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi has praised the air defense system’s performance in the military standoff with Pakistan. “Platforms like the S-400 have given unprecedented strength to the country,” Modi said in an address to troops after the conflict with Islamabad. The development comes after Russia’s High Precision Systems holding company announced it had delivered a batch of Pantsir‑S air defense combat vehicles to the Russian Defense Ministry, following successful trials and formal acceptance. In a March 20 press release, the company said the systems were supplied under a state defense order and described the Pantsir as “one of the key elements protecting Russia’s skies,” noting that it has demonstrated high effectiveness. The statement also said the Pantsir system has intercepted cruise missiles such as Storm Shadow and Flamingo, as well as ATACMS ballistic missiles. Jai Ho! Read the last line ravishingravi 1
bsriharsha Posted March 28 Posted March 28 The key should be to make any further developments to be joint developments. To be made in India. Let Putin give all the existing tech , let india improve it , let both countries use it. ravishingravi 1
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