singhvivek141 Posted Tuesday at 04:17 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:17 PM 6 minutes ago, bsriharsha said: And take some tips from the Iranians and start building up cheap rockets (In case of a full fledged war) , deploying These rockets in bulk will overwhelm the Pakistani's missile defense platform and we can then send in the big boys. I think the stockpile expansion is in progress....specially the home grown missiles like Akash, Nirbhay, Nag, Pralay & Brahmos. Pinaka is also expanding its fleet. I am hoping they're expanding the stockpiles of Agni series as well, there was some news regarding the decommissioning pf Prithvi missiles...if its decommissioned then no doubt Agni will have to do the heavy lifting...specially as our Nuclear Stockpile is close to 200 now. bsriharsha 1
Lone Wolf Posted Tuesday at 04:59 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:59 PM (edited) 42 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: I think the stockpile expansion is in progress....specially the home grown missiles like Akash, Nirbhay, Nag, Pralay & Brahmos. Pinaka is also expanding its fleet. I am hoping they're expanding the stockpiles of Agni series as well, there was some news regarding the decommissioning pf Prithvi missiles...if its decommissioned then no doubt Agni will have to do the heavy lifting...specially as our Nuclear Stockpile is close to 200 now. Thread explains we need to rapidly increase our missile inventory. Rudram series imo should be no 1 priority when it comes to air launched projectiles. We have been way too lethargic and slow. Even Brahmos numbers seem insufficient for a high intensity small scale conflict. Sindoor should be a eye opener for our planners. Not saying we will be matching Chinese but a sufficient detterant Missile force always works. We will be able to replenish the stocks more efficiently as well. Edited Tuesday at 05:01 PM by Lone Wolf
Lone Wolf Posted Tuesday at 05:45 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:45 PM Israelis will try to sabotage this one through our Import Bahadurs.. hopefully Better sense prevails. We should be ordering these by thousands.
bsriharsha Posted Wednesday at 02:18 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:18 AM Looking at the point where Iranian missiles could hit Embassy targets in UAE, Saudi etc. Our missile defenses do seem to be in a better condition. This is despite USA, Israel and all the other countries rushing to help the Arabs.
G_B_ Posted Wednesday at 09:07 AM Posted Wednesday at 09:07 AM 6 hours ago, bsriharsha said: Looking at the point where Iranian missiles could hit Embassy targets in UAE, Saudi etc. Our missile defenses do seem to be in a better condition. This is despite USA, Israel and all the other countries rushing to help the Arabs. Others can correct me but they seem to lack that first line of defence, the l70 gun type, which can shoot down the the low end loitering drones. singhvivek141 1
bsriharsha Posted Wednesday at 10:36 AM Posted Wednesday at 10:36 AM 1 hour ago, G_B_ said: Others can correct me but they seem to lack that first line of defence, the l70 gun type, which can shoot down the the low end loitering drones. We have the Bofors for that. I'm not sure that the Gulf has any valid SHORAD defences , which is apparent considering that the drones are getting through. singhvivek141 1
bsriharsha Posted Wednesday at 11:29 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:29 AM Using Patriot missiles against cheap drones. This invasion won't last long
singhvivek141 Posted Wednesday at 11:31 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:31 AM 55 minutes ago, bsriharsha said: We have the Bofors for that. I'm not sure that the Gulf has any valid SHORAD defences , which is apparent considering that the drones are getting through. Yeah, we also have optimized Pechora guns along with L70 guns to combat the drons. Thats all the part of our layered defence system..starting from S400, Barak, Akash to L70 and other ancient guns. Somewhere in this defense system...Kusha and VSHORAD will also find its place, hopefully for the cities like Delhi, Mumbai, Bengaluru, Chennai, Ahmedabad, Pune, Kolkata, Vizag etc...which are crucial for our defence and economic needso G_B_ and express bowling 1 1
Lone Wolf Posted Wednesday at 11:36 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:36 AM 2 hours ago, G_B_ said: Others can correct me but they seem to lack that first line of defence, the l70 gun type, which can shoot down the the low end loitering drones. India has a much better layered air defence structure than these Arab states. They are using costly ground launched projectiles to shoot down cheap drones. What India needs to work on is strengthening it's BMD capability G_B_, express bowling and singhvivek141 1 2
singhvivek141 Posted Wednesday at 11:42 AM Posted Wednesday at 11:42 AM 17 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Israelis will try to sabotage this one through our Import Bahadurs.. hopefully Better sense prevails. We should be ordering these by thousands. I dont thibk Israel has a replacement like Seshnag. Harop is extremely costly and requires constant guidance. Seshnaag and Ghatak projects are doing well and mostly on track...its again HAL which is screwing us with its CATS Warrior program.
Lone Wolf Posted Wednesday at 12:03 PM Posted Wednesday at 12:03 PM 17 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: I dont thibk Israel has a replacement like Seshnag. Harop is extremely costly and requires constant guidance. Seshnaag and Ghatak projects are doing well and mostly on track...its again HAL which is screwing us with its CATS Warrior program. Harop interception rate has been v high in current conflict as well. Extremely costly all things considered. Even Turkish long range drones seen cheaper Major turn off for me but import Bahadurs have forced it down our throats. NDTV is reporting that Sheshnag program is going smoothly and initial orders might be closer to being placed so I am hopeful. Ghatak and CATS warrior are still 4-5 years away from induction if everything goes well
bsriharsha Posted Wednesday at 01:37 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:37 PM Need to get more startups into the war economy mode.
bsriharsha Posted Wednesday at 01:38 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:38 PM And stop with wanking after the expensive iron dome project (unless and until it can be totally indianized and the costs come manageable express bowling 1
singhvivek141 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago On 3/4/2026 at 7:07 PM, bsriharsha said: Need to get more startups into the war economy mode. Sheshnaag 150 built by a private sector org is being seen as a competitor for Shahed drones. This is the need of the hour, to build thousands of such kamikaze drones. We also need UCAV Ghatak in large numbers, they can become the first line of attack in a contested airspace. But for that Indian Defence SatComs have to be bolstered in big capacity. ISRO has to get rid of their 1 satellit per year speed and target to launch atleast 6-8 satellites in a year for stronger Data Link and real time Communication. https://defence.in/threads/irans-shahed-136-vs-indias-sheshnaag-150-a-comparative-analysis-of-aerodynamic-design-and-operational-doctrine.17081/#post-80698
Lone Wolf Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) Probably a sane take.. let's not wait on HAL setting up production lines and making sure the costs shoot up twice and thrice per unit. Focus on AMCA and import not more 2 5th gen squadrons in flyaway condition. Edited 6 hours ago by Lone Wolf
bsriharsha Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Tejas mk2 is slow development because of Engine delivery. Hopefully, we get a new engine manufacturer.
Lone Wolf Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, bsriharsha said: Tejas mk2 is slow development because of Engine delivery. Hopefully, we get a new engine manufacturer. We can't, GE414 has been decided and they cannot suddenly change the design as it would push the program a decade back at least. The babu that went with GE is to blame.
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