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mishra Grand Master

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4 hours ago, IndianRenegade said:

Honestly I am sick & tired of Bibbi’s war mongering. Has been constantly at war since oct 7, for which they have more than responded.


Bringing down the entire world is horrible.

 


 

 

Actually, I admire him for valuing life of his citizens. Indian take value of life very cheap. With fertility rate falling around 2.1, I hope people and government wake up.

IndianRenegade Grand Master

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45 minutes ago, mishra said:

Actually, I admire him for valuing life of his citizens. Indian take value of life very cheap. With fertility rate falling around 2.1, I hope people and government wake up.

His people aren’t dying now?

 

27 dead & 7000 injured. None would have been hurt if he didn’t start this war.

IndianRenegade Grand Master

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46 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

 

 

The Americans want to have their cake & eat it too. They want the ceasefire because of Hormuz & the fact Iran can hit back at Israel & GCC. They want that to stop.

 

They also realise Lebanon has no means to retaliate like Iran, so they don’t want that included in the ceasefire. For all the evil Iran is, the burger munchers are a special breed.

 

 

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randomGuy Grand Master

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40 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said:

 

The Americans want to have their cake & eat it too. They want the ceasefire because of Hormuz & the fact Iran can hit back at Israel & GCC. They want that to stop.

 

They also realise Lebanon has no means to retaliate like Iran, so they don’t want that included in the ceasefire. For all the evil Iran is, the burger munchers are a special breed.

 

 

Iran may have had sympathy of the world. But if they want to lavy tax on every ship then maybe iran also won't have the sympathy.

IndianRenegade Grand Master

IndianRenegade

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2 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

Iran may have had sympathy of the world. But if they want to lavy tax on every ship then maybe iran also won't have the sympathy.

True, I am guessing most world leaders will get an exemption, like India. 
 

we will even promise infrastructure build out in Iran. The problem is they need to get out of sanctions for that to be viable.

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mishra Grand Master

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5 hours ago, IndianRenegade said:

His people aren’t dying now?

 

27 dead & 7000 injured. None would have been hurt if he didn’t start this war.

Root cause is still there. IRGC Hamas Hezbollah nexus has to be broken else they will do Oct 7 again. 
 

I get answer from Mahabharat, and 100 Kaurav must die. Bhishma zpitamah told Yudhisthie “ onus of  sins( killings) of war is always on who started it,  not who and how many got killed”

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coffee_rules Grand Master

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9 minutes ago, mishra said:

Root cause is still there. IRGC Hamas Hezbollah nexus has to be broken else they will do Oct 7 again. 
 

I get answer from Mahabharat, and 100 Kaurav must die. 

Netanyahu 

has to deal with only Hamas and Hezbullah I’m not Iran,. Lebanon and Gaza are neighing regions of Israel. It can’t attack Iran, which has like 90 million people, bigger country to deal with. By attacking Iran, they have disrupted world economy, and and hence Israel loses support from all countries affected by war. 
 

Israel didn’t get any objective met with this aggression, no regime change, no reach for the uranium, and they also lost the narrative war to Iran. They are the biggest losers in this war

IndianRenegade Grand Master

IndianRenegade

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16 minutes ago, mishra said:

Root cause is still there. IRGC Hamas Hezbollah nexus has to be broken else they will do Oct 7 again. 
 

I get answer from Mahabharat, and 100 Kaurav must die. Bhishma zpitamah told Yudhisthie “ onus of  sins( killings) of war is always on who started it,  not who and how many got killed”

Root cause will still be there, unless they are ready to deploy ground forces. Go for a world war 2 kind of total defeat. 
 

 

mishra Grand Master

mishra

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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

Netanyahu 

has to deal with only Hamas and Hezbullah I’m not Iran,. Lebanon and Gaza are neighing regions of Israel. It can’t attack Iran, which has like 90 million people, bigger country to deal with. By attacking Iran, they have disrupted world economy, and and hence Israel loses support from all countries affected by war. 
 

Israel didn’t get any objective met with this aggression, no regime change, no reach for the uranium, and they also lost the narrative war to Iran. They are the biggest losers in this war

Seems like everyone has forgotten that It was Iran which fired 200+ ( missiles + drones) projectiles on Israel in support of Hamas and Hezbollah without any provocation by Israel. That number is just for one night.

 

Israelis simply decided to buy time to regroup replan and deal with it. Hence I say, admire him for leadership and value he places on Israeli lives

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rkt.india Grand Master

rkt.india

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17 minutes ago, mishra said:

Seems like everyone has forgotten that It was Iran which fired 200+ ( missiles + drones) projectiles on Israel in support of Hamas and Hezbollah without any provocation by Israel. That number is just for one night.

 

Israelis simply decided to buy time to regroup replan and deal with it. Hence I say, admire him for leadership and value he places on Israeli lives

Israel attacking Iran wasn't a problem but the issue started when USA jumped in. Many of the current issues like closure of Hormuz wouldn't have happened had Israel not asked USA to attack Iran. It changed things completely and All USA gulf allies got attacked by Iran in retaliation. Had the fight remain just between Israel and Iran, world would not have faced the current problems while USA also miscalculated Iran's position. They never thought Iran would attack GCC.

mishra Grand Master

mishra

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13 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Israel attacking Iran wasn't a problem but the issue started when USA jumped in. Many of the current issues like closure of Hormuz wouldn't have happened had Israel not asked USA to attack Iran. It changed things completely and All USA gulf allies got attacked by Iran in retaliation. Had the fight remain just between Israel and Iran, world would not have faced the current problems while USA also miscalculated Iran's position. They never thought Iran would attack GCC.

True, but partially. Turkey came in and docked their anti sub navy ship on Karachi port during OP Sindoor. Think what would have happened if Indians would have taken war to one more day after getting rid of Pakistani radars. Karachi Port would have been attacked via air and sea. 
 

So allies are part of casualties and may join war as there is little or no control after a critical level has been reached. Hence intelligent avoid firing the first bullet. Iran should have avoided those attacks against US all ly as ally to Hezbollah and Hamas. Now it can not complain if Israeli come after Iran with their ally US.

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