Ultimate_Game Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Just now, deathmonger said: Afg wasn't dead rubber though. Wasn't that the 2021 WT20 one where we were already knocked out for all practical purposes after losing to Pak and NZ? Or is it some other Afg match you're referring to?
deathmonger Posted February 23 Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Wasn't that the 2021 WT20 one where we were already knocked out for all practical purposes after losing to Pak and NZ? Or is it some other Afg match you're referring to? https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-men-s-t20-world-cup-2024-1411166/afghanistan-vs-india-43rd-match-super-eights-group-1-1415743/full-scorecard Also both USA knocks - In 2024 as well Plus 47 in semi vs Eng.
Frustrated Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, deathmonger said: Naah, can't discount his knocks vs Afg (who were semi finalist) in 2024 plus the USA knocks USA and Afghan are not top teams. I had categorically highlighted the term "against big teams" in my post so as to avoid any confusion. Being a good batsman is one thing and being a minnow basher is another. (Afghan making it to a SF once in a blue moon doesn't make them a top team) Edited February 23 by Frustrated Gollum and Ravi_Shastri 2
Ultimate_Game Posted February 23 Posted February 23 44 minutes ago, deathmonger said: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-men-s-t20-world-cup-2024-1411166/afghanistan-vs-india-43rd-match-super-eights-group-1-1415743/full-scorecard Also both USA knocks - In 2024 as well Plus 47 in semi vs Eng. The Eng game was mostly Rohit. He supported Rohit just like he did against Aus. But SKY hasn't had a single knock where he led from the front the way Rohit, Kohli or Raina have done in the past. For a top order batter who has mostly batted at 3 or 4, lack of difference making knocks is glaring. In fact Axar and Dube have been much more impactful than SKY. Gollum and Frustrated 2
Gollum Posted February 23 Posted February 23 This guy always tried to act too smart for his own good. Our NRR has been nuked. But I won't be surprised if he again repeats the Tilak/Rinku/Abhishek bowling drama against Zim next match, instead of winning by a big margin. His field placements, tactics, selection, PCs (making a joke/tamasha whenever asked legit questions) all scream the same. This is the guy who started the handshake drama to take SM heat off him, putting rest of his team under pressure. Then his politician-like statements when questioned about his form and lack of runs. Frustrated and Sean Bradley 2
Gollum Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Such a limited player, no release shot except that scoop/lap thing he does to fine leg region. Top teams are of course going to plan for that. He is also weak against spin. Very charmed life. Captain in T20 WC, played an ODI WC, even a BGT test with so many limitations. Anyway, can only support these guys till end of WC. Hope bhagwan ki kripa makes them show their best level in upcoming fixtures. speedster and Frustrated 2
Bigg Brother Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Replace Sky with Iyer and we would have got better chance. This guy has only shot. Was hacking in leg side and getting out without any remorse and improvement throughout whole 2024-2025. Sucked in 2023 wc as well when it mattered. Proper definition of mediocrity.
Lord Posted February 23 Posted February 23 11 minutes ago, Gollum said: This guy always tried to act too smart for his own good. Our NRR has been nuked. But I won't be surprised if he again repeats the Tilak/Rinku/Abhishek bowling drama against Zim next match, instead of winning by a big margin. His field placements, tactics, selection, PCs (making a joke/tamasha whenever asked legit questions) all scream the same. This is the guy who started the handshake drama to take SM heat off him, putting rest of his team under pressure. Then his politician-like statements when questioned about his form and lack of runs. Handshake is definitely not his decision
deepdynamo Posted February 23 Posted February 23 SKY is playing his last few T20 for India. Its clear he's done. Its good that the next T20 world Cup is 2.5 years away so all washed up players will be discarded by that time. Frustrated and Gollum 2
Number Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Never had credentials to be the captain ahead of Bumrah and Pandya. Agarkar wanted Pandya out and Gambhir wanted someone who can be his yes-man. SKY fitted the bill for both. Gollum, Frustrated and Suhaan 3
Gollum Posted February 23 Posted February 23 15 minutes ago, deepdynamo said: SKY is playing his last few T20 for India. Its clear he's done. Its good that the next T20 world Cup is 2.5 years away so all washed up players will be discarded by that time. They may restart Project Gill 3.0 Instead of blooding in Vaibhav or giving Jaiswal a fair shot.
Adamant Posted February 23 Posted February 23 He had a peak where he was batting like Ab Devilliers, but that was limited to bilaterals. Never saw him at his best in world t20s or even Asia cup. I think his best t20 WC innings was the one against SA in 2022, we lost the match but he did well on a bouncy track against a great pace bowling lineup.
deathmonger Posted February 23 Posted February 23 4 hours ago, Frustrated said: USA and Afghan are not top teams. I had categorically highlighted the term "against big teams" in my post so as to avoid any confusion. Being a good batsman is one thing and being a minnow basher is another. (Afghan making it to a SF once in a blue moon doesn't make them a top team) Point is Afghanistan made the semis THAT edition so (and defeated Aus too as well as NZ I believe in group stage) so discounting them makes no sense. They were a "big"/"top" team in THAT edition. A knock against Afghanistan in super 8 was more valuable than Pak in group stage in what was basically a dead rubber for India.
Sean Bradley Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gollum said: This guy always tried to act too smart for his own good. Our NRR has been nuked. But I won't be surprised if he again repeats the Tilak/Rinku/Abhishek bowling drama against Zim next match, instead of winning by a big margin. His field placements, tactics, selection, PCs (making a joke/tamasha whenever asked legit questions) all scream the same. This is the guy who started the handshake drama to take SM heat off him, putting rest of his team under pressure. Then his politician-like statements when questioned about his form and lack of runs. Absolutely agree with this. This guy thinks he is Gaur Gopal Das, tries to make childlike connotations on some serious questions asked in PCs and then shamelessly laughs like he is some sort of a spiritual guru. Atleast back that attitude with performance, Maharashtrians would say "Mi Aahe hatti ani Chaddit Tatti" Edited February 23 by Sean Bradley Gollum 1
Suhaan Posted February 23 Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Adamant said: He had a peak where he was batting like Ab Devilliers, but that was limited to bilaterals. Never saw him at his best in world t20s or even Asia cup. I think his best t20 WC innings was the one against SA in 2022, we lost the match but he did well on a bouncy track against a great pace bowling lineup. Even ABD failed to play like ABD outside bilaterals Adamant 1
Need4Speed Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) I would like to wait for this IPL first..to see how Suruavanshi does as teams may have made some plans for him now....same for Abhishek..plugging off side and using fastish offies.. Additionally and equally important for me is to see how Ashok Sharma bowls in whatever chances he gets..same for Mayank Yadav..and if he can go through the tournament without any injury/fitness issues.. Bonus will be if we see some other players come up in batting,AR and mystery spinners section Edited February 23 by Need4Speed
speedster Posted February 23 Posted February 23 5 hours ago, Gollum said: Such a limited player, no release shot except that scoop/lap thing he does to fine leg region. Top teams are of course going to plan for that. He is also weak against spin. Very charmed life. Captain in T20 WC, played an ODI WC, even a BGT test with so many limitations. Anyway, can only support these guys till end of WC. Hope bhagwan ki kripa makes them show their best level in upcoming fixtures. This, he has always seemed poor against spin but then all our batsmen need to learn how to play spin, also need to find some decent spinners for our attack to support Varun Gollum 1
putrevus Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Yesterday proved this guy falling under pressure is not new. that fear of failure dragged him down, he had zero confidence in his ability to play shots
Frustrated Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) 12 hours ago, deathmonger said: Point is Afghanistan made the semis THAT edition so (and defeated Aus too as well as NZ I believe in group stage) so discounting them makes no sense. They were a "big"/"top" team in THAT edition. A knock against Afghanistan in super 8 was more valuable than Pak in group stage in what was basically a dead rubber for India. In the ongoing tournament, SKY's SR against Pak, Namibia and NED is only 100%. Except the game against USA, he has batted at 100 SR in every match despite having faced 30+ balls in every match. Against SA, his SR is 80%. That means the longer he stays at the crease, the better it is for the opponent. Edited February 23 by Frustrated putrevus 1
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