SoS ICFers: How can we salvage our faltering T20 WC campaign??

[zen]

1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

I am in Kolkata next Sunday. Have some work commitments on Monday. Decided to travel the day before to catch up with some friends. They keep bigging up some Cat Peter place. Here is the thing.

 

I've attended 2 IPL games at Eden Gardens, both won by  

I've attended 2 ODIs at Wankhede: 2011 WC finals and 2023 WC SF, both won by team

 

All you guys have to do is crowdfund my ticket. 

The law of averages now lean towards you becoming a “panauti”

[deathmonger]

3 hours ago, deepdynamo said:

 

We are still with 90% chance to reach semis. We are expected to beat WI and ZIM. The only scenario with kudrat ka nuizam if WI win vs both SA and ZIM.

 

But coming back, we need to find few solutions fast otherwise it will become another "Trying same thing and expecting different results". Solutions can be different but sticking to same template can be worked out by teams as shown repeadtly by teams in this world cup.

 

Still, keeping my belief- we are going to the semis. 

 

The only two changes can be 

 

1. Axar back

2. Maybe Samson replacing a left hander

 

Nothing to do beyond that.

 

SA are a good team and they bowled perfectly on that pitch. 

 

Lack of Axar, all those extras etc had a cascading effect.

[deathmonger]

3 hours ago, Mariyam said:

I am in Kolkata next Sunday. Have some work commitments on Monday. Decided to travel the day before to catch up with some friends. They keep bigging up some Cat Peter place. Here is the thing.

 

I've attended 2 IPL games at Eden Gardens, both won by  

I've attended 2 ODIs at Wankhede: 2011 WC finals and 2023 WC SF, both won by team

 

All you guys have to do is crowdfund my ticket. 

Peter Cat.

 

Old classic.

 

But nothing you won't find in Bombay. Sizzlers etc.

 

But do 6 Ballygunge Place instead for upscale Bengali food - think Trishna but for Bengali food.

[deathmonger]

Think of our WWC campaign.

 

Got into the KOs and then defeated teams who had beaten us before.

[deepdynamo]

2 hours ago, deathmonger said:

The only two changes can be 

 

1. Axar back

2. Maybe Samson replacing a left hander

 

Nothing to do beyond that.

 

SA are a good team and they bowled perfectly on that pitch. 

 

Lack of Axar, all those extras etc had a cascading effect.

 

Yes, these are the most straightfoward and logical selections. 

 

Hope India gets a decent pitch for a change.

 

Also, maybe go back to old fashioned T20 cricket. 80/1 in 10 overs and look to go big in last 10.

[deathmonger]

3 minutes ago, deepdynamo said:

 

Yes, these are the most straightfoward and logical selections. 

 

Hope India gets a decent pitch for a change.

 

Also, maybe go back to old fashioned T20 cricket. 80/1 in 10 overs and look to go big in last 10.

Flattie vs Zim.

 

Slower vs WI.

[neel roy]

8 hours ago, Mariyam said:

I am in Kolkata next Sunday. Have some work commitments on Monday. Decided to travel the day before to catch up with some friends. They keep bigging up some Cat Peter place. Here is the thing.

 

I've attended 2 IPL games at Eden Gardens, both won by  

I've attended 2 ODIs at Wankhede: 2011 WC finals and 2023 WC SF, both won by team

 

All you guys have to do is crowdfund my ticket. 

Peter Cat is good. Its in Park Street. My college was 7 mins walk from there in Calcutta. Chello Kebabs and sizzlers are the best ( though in college days we never had the money to feast!). There is another one beside it called Mocambo. These two restaurants have withstood the change in time and generations. Old school style restaurants. There are other nice restaurants as well in that area.. Trinca s is an old pub. Usha Uthup started her career singing there..If you want something sweet go to Flurys.. old nostalic feeling..

[BCCISelector]

Hardik needs to open the bowling again. That allows SKY to bank on a couple of overs from Bumrah in the middle overs.

 

We can't have a large part of our middle overs to be bowled by the likes of Dube, Axar/Sundar, and Hardik. They simply aren't incisive enough on a consistent basis. Relying on these guys could cost the match again, especially when Varun has a bad day.

 

Hardik does a decent enough job with the new ball. Bumrah won't win you the game solely with his two powerplay overs anyway. The opposition now know that they can simply play him out upfront and smash the lesser bowlers soon after.

[Mariyam]

@deathmonger @neel roy

 

Thank you for the reccos.

 

Don't think I will be able to change venues. This place comes highly recommended by two friends who don’t know each other and has been decided upon.

 

Admittedly the last time I followed the recco of one of these friends and went to Arsalan only to be thoroughly disappointed.

 

Let me see if I can convince them to get tickets for the WI game instead!

 

Edited February 23 by Mariyam

[randomGuy]

8 hours ago, deepdynamo said:

Can we leave out Abhishek and bring back Samson just for the left-right hand at top & then hope for the best. 

 

Atleast, it will nuetralise the off spin theory.

 

Not sure though. If batsman are not clciking- left or right shouldn't matter.

 

1. Samson for Abhishek. Bring back Gill for next series.

 

2. It is criminal to leave out Kuldeep. Kuldeep for Arshdeep.

 

3. Axar clearly better than Sundar. 

 

[vvvslaxman]

their spirit is broken. I saw so much self-doubts within the team. Dube is the only one who gives an impression alongwith bumrah that they are playing world cup not some gully cricket. They might lose one of the two games. Their whole body language looked pathetic.. India n top order as a unit failed 5 matches in a row. Won't be surprised if they fail 6th and 7th in a row.

[neel roy]

3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

their spirit is broken. I saw so much self-doubts within the team. Dube is the only one who gives an impression alongwith bumrah that they are playing world cup not some gully cricket. They might lose one of the two games. Their whole body language looked pathetic.. India n top order as a unit failed 5 matches in a row. Won't be surprised if they fail 6th and 7th in a row.

If you are fed five star restaurant menu for last 2 years ( flat pitches) and then you are told to change your taste to half boiled chawal and hard boiled daal for one month. How will you react. How will you react when you dig deep and see all these are happening at your own home. Shock bewilderment.. and unwillingness to adapt to the new taste..

[Pakistan]

By banning all SENA players from IPL or ending your monopoly on Bharat players so end advantage of SENA players. Either way cricket is dead killed by Bharat domestic politics.

[Pakistan]

10 minutes ago, neel roy said:

If you are fed five star restaurant menu for last 2 years ( flat pitches) and then you are told to change your taste to half boiled chawal and hard boiled daal for one month. How will you react. How will you react when you dig deep and see all these are happening at your own home. Shock bewilderment.. and unwillingness to adapt to the new taste..

Make them eat MRE which we eat in US Army bootcamp.

[Pakistan]

18 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

their spirit is broken. I saw so much self-doubts within the team. Dube is the only one who gives an impression alongwith bumrah that they are playing world cup not some gully cricket. They might lose one of the two games. Their whole body language looked pathetic.. India n top order as a unit failed 5 matches in a row. Won't be surprised if they fail 6th and 7th in a row.

SKY cost you this match. Bumrah was boss he would have killed the match in first ten overs. He should be white ball captain.

[deathmonger]

1 hour ago, randomGuy said:

 

1. Samson for Abhishek. Bring back Gill for next series.

 

2. It is criminal to leave out Kuldeep. Kuldeep for Arshdeep.

 

3. Axar clearly better than Sundar. 

 

Naah, Kuldeep can get tonked. Both him and Arshdeep are same level imo.

 

Need Arshdeep for death bowling.

[bowl_out]

Step1 : Hope SA win against WI

Step2: Hope Ind win against WI and Zim

 

This will make NRR irrelevant

[bowl_out]

In terms of team, Samson for Tilak and Axar for Washi.

 

Will be a flat patta at Chepauk. If Abhishek can put bat on ball, they should make 200+.

[vvvslaxman]

5 hours ago, deathmonger said:

Flattie vs Zim.

 

Slower vs WI.

Slower vs WI means that will be slower vs India as well. Akeal hosein,  Gutakesh will own us along with Chase.

[randomGuy]

6 hours ago, deathmonger said:

Naah, Kuldeep can get tonked. Both him and Arshdeep are same level imo.

 

Need Arshdeep for death bowling.

You would know better...i watch only T20 world cups and asia cups. Based on that I find Kuldeep most valuable after Bumrah. 

 

Even axar is valuable. SK yadav ko replace kar ke Gill ko captain bhi bana sakte hain? Yadav hasn't done much in a long time.