putrevus Posted March 3 Posted March 3 46 minutes ago, StraightDrive26 said: So couple of bad games and we get rid of him? What kind of logic is that? He has been the best Indian spinner for about 2 years now and he deserves to play the knock outs. You cannot drop a bowler who has been bowling brilliantly for a while now. He has played on some flat tracks and I expect him to do well in the SF and in the finals if we get there. If Kuldeep plays, it has to be in the place of someone else. India had the least amount of bad games as team since 2016 in all ICC tournaments. You just need one bad game to be kicked out. There might not be another chance if he has another bad game.
vvvslaxman Posted March 3 Posted March 3 59 minutes ago, cricspirit said: No.Varun plays. Cant keep dropping players after few bad games. Abhishek plays too. My be we could open with Kishan and Samson and let Abhi come at 3. That's it. Let Axar play too. We do not need Sundar. Stop telling Dube where to bowl. Let him bowl freely. He will play. It is a red soil wicket. There will be bounce. You can't hit through the line like on those low bounce black soil pitches.
Ultimate_Game Posted March 3 Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: He will play. It is a red soil wicket. There will be bounce. You can't hit through the line like on those low bounce black soil pitches. I never knew this much about red and black soil before this tourney. Now my first question is (even before who won the toss), "is it a black soil pitch or a red soil one?" Don't even know what other soil types are but I shudder at the thought of black soil.
vvvslaxman Posted March 3 Posted March 3 1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said: I never knew this much about red and black soil before this tourney. Now my first question is (even before who won the toss), "is it a black soil pitch or a red soil one?" Don't even know what other soil types are but I shudder at the thought of black soil. Mixed soil. Chennai match was played on black soil pitch. But it was not completely black soil. Varun Aaaron on cricinfo told before the match that chennai black soil pitches are different as they are not completely black soil pitch.
Ultimate_Game Posted March 3 Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Mixed soil. Chennai match was played on black soil pitch. But it was not completely black soil. Varun Aaaron on cricinfo told before the match that chennai black soil pitches are different as they are not completely black soil pitch. TBH I like Chennai pitch the best. Helps spinners a bit and is the most Indian pitch. Wish we could play at Chennai a bit more. cricspirit and vvvslaxman 2
G_B_ Posted March 3 Author Posted March 3 51 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: He will play. It is a red soil wicket. There will be bounce. You can't hit through the line like on those low bounce black soil pitches. Brook is in great form to do that (play acrosd the line). Given small boundaries needs to get length spot on.
vvvslaxman Posted March 4 Posted March 4 53 minutes ago, G_B_ said: Brook is in great form to do that (play acrosd the line). Given small boundaries needs to get length spot on. Varun vs Harry Brook 4 matches 3 dismissals average 9. 0 sixes.
StraightDrive26 Posted March 4 Posted March 4 23 hours ago, putrevus said: India had the least amount of bad games as team since 2016 in all ICC tournaments. You just need one bad game to be kicked out. There might not be another chance if he has another bad game. Why does it apply only to the bowlers? The discipline where we have the least replacements? The batters have had longer ropes when they have players knocking down the door from the domestic scene. Our captain has been struggling for more than a year but still finds a place, Abhishek Sharma has been struggling through the tournament but he will continue to play till the finals. Only Varun with 2 bad games needs to be dropped? What logic from Indian fans. A bowler who has been performing brilliantly for 2 years now and is the highest wicket-taker for India in this T20I WC needs to be dropped for the crucial games? Ultimate_Game 1
Ultimate_Game Posted March 4 Posted March 4 10 minutes ago, StraightDrive26 said: Why does it apply only to the bowlers? The discipline where we have the least replacements? The batters have had longer ropes when they have players knocking down the door from the domestic scene. Our captain has been struggling for more than a year but still finds a place, Abhishek Sharma has been struggling through the tournament but he will continue to play till the finals. Only Varun with 2 bad games needs to be dropped? What logic from Indian fans. A bowler who has been performing brilliantly for 2 years now and is the highest wicket-taker for India in this T20I WC needs to be dropped for the crucial games? And he wasn't even that bad. He still picked up wkts and gave us the breakthrough. On top of that he has to depend on our fielding and catching. IMO Varun's done pretty well so far and should be in the starting XI alongside Bumrah and Pandya.
putrevus Posted March 4 Posted March 4 (edited) 21 minutes ago, StraightDrive26 said: Why does it apply only to the bowlers? The discipline where we have the least replacements? The batters have had longer ropes when they have players knocking down the door from the domestic scene. Our captain has been struggling for more than a year but still finds a place, Abhishek Sharma has been struggling through the tournament but he will continue to play till the finals. Only Varun with 2 bad games needs to be dropped? What logic from Indian fans. A bowler who has been performing brilliantly for 2 years now and is the highest wicket-taker for India in this T20I WC needs to be dropped for the crucial games? Bowlers have more impact, all batsmen may or may not get a chance to make impact. If only five bowlers are bowling, every bowler has to bowl 4 overs, there is no hiding from it. A batsman getting out for zero is not catastrophic versus bowler really having bad day.India has only three main bowlers and he is one of them. Edited March 4 by putrevus
vvvslaxman Posted March 4 Posted March 4 10 hours ago, G_B_ said: Lets see. Brook is in form and Varun is not. Markram was in form lol This is T20. Every match is a new match. Every situation is a new situation. Same NZ got thrashed in the preliminary round by SA. Look what happened here. Ultimate_Game 1
StraightDrive26 Posted March 4 Posted March 4 1 minute ago, putrevus said: Bowlers have more impact, all batsmen may or may not get a chance to make impact. If only five bowlers are bowling, every bowler has to bowl 4 overs, there is no hiding from it. A batsman getting out for zero is not catastrophic versus bowler really having bad day.India has only three main bowlers and he is one of them. So the highest wicket taker for India and according to you one of the main bowlers for the team needs to be dropped? What is the guarantee that his replacement will do better? Despite those 2 games, Varun has 12 wickets at an average of 12 and econ of 7.7. If you keep dropping bowlers based on 2 games, you may end up with no bowlers to pick after a few months. Ultimate_Game 1
putrevus Posted March 4 Posted March 4 3 minutes ago, StraightDrive26 said: So the highest wicket taker for India and according to you one of the main bowlers for the team needs to be dropped? What is the guarantee that his replacement will do better? Despite those 2 games, Varun has 12 wickets at an average of 12 and econ of 7.7. If you keep dropping bowlers based on 2 games, you may end up with no bowlers to pick after a few months. Yeah , he can take wickets against associate teams and have great stats too. SKY is top run getters in the tournament too.But we know what he has done in important matches. Nobody is dropping him from the squad, it is about this one match.You are right there is no guarantee Kuldeep will do better,ideally you want both him and Kuldeep to play but due to fragile lineup it is not possible.
Ultimate_Game Posted March 4 Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, StraightDrive26 said: So the highest wicket taker for India and according to you one of the main bowlers for the team needs to be dropped? What is the guarantee that his replacement will do better? Despite those 2 games, Varun has 12 wickets at an average of 12 and econ of 7.7. If you keep dropping bowlers based on 2 games, you may end up with no bowlers to pick after a few months. You're talking to a brainless moron. As per him it's ok if star batters shyte the bed for a decade in high-profile matches, or if they score multiple ducks. But bowlers should always be perfect. Ignore him. Varun C is the 2nd best bowler in the team after Bumrah. He deserves the spot and has been one of the MVPs along with Bumrah and Pandya. Kuldeep is a mental midget and I expect him to be hammered all over the place.
diga Posted March 4 Posted March 4 23 hours ago, G_B_ said: Brook is in great form to do that (play acrosd the line). Given small boundaries needs to get length spot on. Will you pass the tebbit test ? UK resident or citizen ?
G_B_ Posted Thursday at 05:55 PM Author Posted Thursday at 05:55 PM On 3/3/2026 at 10:27 PM, vvvslaxman said: He will play. It is a red soil wicket. There will be bounce. You can't hit through the line like on those low bounce black soil pitches. Ahem.. At this point just play siraj
Gollum Posted Thursday at 05:57 PM Posted Thursday at 05:57 PM Time for Siraj now. No faith in spin anymore. Axar can play because of his AR prowess and clutchness. G_B_ 1
Frustrated Posted Thursday at 06:01 PM Posted Thursday at 06:01 PM All the teams hv started decoding Varun. But Kuldeep was already decoded much earlier. Kuldeep was our worst spinner in the T20 home series against NZ last month. We are facing the same opponent (NZ) in final.
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