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My only worry is almost all England has conceded they will lose to India. Many are happy they reached the semis. Basically nothing to lose situation for them..unlike Ashes pressure there is zero pressure on them. That is not Good for India. They believe it will partially hide the sins of Englannd ins Ashes

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12 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Entire world wants India to lose lol

Even the WI  ???

 

My gosh - whenever I say anything about WI, everyone is like "come on man - that is our second favourite team...etc"

 

How come the WI does not return the adulation of the people here on this board?

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9 minutes ago, AKane said:

Even the WI  ???

 

My gosh - whenever I say anything about WI, everyone is like "come on man - that is our second favourite team...etc"

 

How come the WI does not return the adulation of the people here on this board?

Everyone hates India. Due to scheduling in favor of Indians all the ICC events. India getting all Sunday games etc.  Many such things

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Vaughan has predicted an England one, , one of the most anti India commentators out there,hope we win, always fun to see him eat a humble pie

Posted
15 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Everyone hates India. Due to scheduling in favor of Indians all the ICC events. India getting all Sunday games etc.  Many such things

It has nothing to do with just cricket. Everyone hates India. Period.

 

Don't be naive and don't be idealistic. Just hate back.

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2 minutes ago, AKane said:

It has nothing to do with just cricket. Everyone hates India. Period.

 

Don't be naive and don't be idealistic. Just hate back.

Mostly the BCCIs clout. Few of them are pakistan mouthpiece. For instance 100s sidelining pak players  is attributed to Indias autocracy. Things like that. 

Posted
12 hours ago, rkt.india said:

There will be dew.

 

Win the toss, bowl Eng out for under 160, chase the total in around 17 overs. Or bat first, score 220+ and bowl them out for around 160-170 to win by 60-70 runs :agree:

Posted
1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Entire world wants India to lose lol

 

That has always been the case. 2024 WT20 was no different and same for 2025 CT. It's similar to the whole world rooting against US in whatever sports they play.

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52 minutes ago, AKane said:

Even the WI  ???

 

My gosh - whenever I say anything about WI, everyone is like "come on man - that is our second favourite team...etc"

 

How come the WI does not return the adulation of the people here on this board?

 

Not mine. Mine is Afghanistan by a distance. WI players, especially from the Holding, Lloyd, Richards era never really got over the 1983 WC and have held the grudge. You have to hear Holding talk about Indian players or Lloyd doing the same. They can barely contain their hate and contempt for India. Have seen it multiple times. It's the same vibes you get from Nasser Hussain and English in general.

Posted
24 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

You have to hear Holding talk about Indian players or Lloyd doing the same. They can barely contain their hate and contempt for India.

Oh I believe you - its just obvious.

 

Guess what? Their team stinks worse than ours ever did and their team is gonna stink even worse!

Posted
19 minutes ago, AKane said:

Oh I believe you - its just obvious.

 

Guess what? Their team stinks worse than ours ever did and their team is gonna stink even worse!

 

I like the current WI players and the previous gen such as Gayle, Pollard, DreRuss, Bravo, Pooran, Sunil Narine etc. But can't forget likes of Holding and Lloyd. They never miss an opportunity to take a shot at India.

Posted
5 hours ago, speedster said:

Vaughan has predicted an England one, , one of the most anti India commentators out there,hope we win, always fun to see him eat a humble pie

vaughan predicted India will win. He also said INdia can replace top 6 with another 6 and they will still win. I don't think he is totally anti-India. HE is a bit more anti-australia than anti-India

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

vaughan predicted India will win. He also said INdia can replace top 6 with another 6 and they will still win. I don't think he is totally anti-India. HE is a bit more anti-australia than anti-India

England are man to man superior,they are favourites +bat really long alongwith good bowling 

Fielding is at whole new level compared to ours,as you said pressure on us is more

 

Edited by Suhaan
Posted
10 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

England are man to man superior,they are favourites +bat really long alongwith good bowling 

Fielding is at whole new level compared to ours,as you said pressure on us is more

 

Before world cup Abhishek was predicted to be scoring most runs in the tournament. IT is almost like we are playing one less player with Abhishek now. HE must show up. He cannot go missing the entire tournament. 

Posted
2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

vaughan predicted India will win. He also said INdia can replace top 6 with another 6 and they will still win. I don't think he is totally anti-India. HE is a bit more anti-australia than anti-India

No brother, he has said that England has the better spinners and he has a 'funny feeling' that England will win, this is as per BBC sport. On the second part, respect your opinion, you could be right but I feel that there is a pattern and self serving nature to his opinions and so I have a different perspective on him so let's just agree to disagree on this one

Posted (edited)

To win - whether we bat first or second,

 

1) We need fifties from 2 of these  Abhishek, Samson, Ishan, Tilak

 

2) We need a 35 or 40 from 1 of  Suryakumar, Dube, Hardik

 

Quick 20's from couple of others (including among above) will determine our fate.

 

To win - whether we bowl first or second

 

1) We need to get both Salt and Buttler out cheaply - If one or heaven forbid both play out the PP, we are in trouble.

 

2) We need to get  at least 1 of Brook and Jacks cheaply

 

They still have Bethel, Banton, Curran, Dawson, Overton/Rehan - none of these should be allowed a quick 25 or 30.

 

Edited by AKane

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