singhvivek141 Posted June 3 Posted June 3 1 hour ago, IndianRenegade said: The loss of life is already a tragedy & many of them are not Indians. The Indian capital is tarnishing the image of the country. Capital needs to shift man, from Delhi to somewhere in Central India. Not only because Delhi is over crowded, but it's sits in a geographical disadvantage where it's surrounded by hills...so anything that's trapped in Delhi, remains trapped. Just like Gandhinagar, Chandigarh and potentially Amaravathi....we need another capital, planned in a rectangular fashion.
straighttalk Posted June 3 Posted June 3 We have our joker Rahul Gandhi say modi won't be pm in one year...with the amount of corruption mismanagement and loss of Indias reputation going around..many competent leader would have defeated the frauds in charge...instead they have zero vision zero work ethic and doing randi Rona ..are being the country to a stop over election fraud, go on protests to get the corrupt minister removed, provide a vision of economic growth and equality for the poor and marginalized ....the last part is the opportunity..instead they are either barking up the wrong tree of secularism or focusing on sops and reservations which will take the country back. Lord 1
IndianRenegade Posted June 3 Posted June 3 38 minutes ago, straighttalk said: We have our joker Rahul Gandhi say modi won't be pm in one year...with the amount of corruption mismanagement and loss of Indias reputation going around..many competent leader would have defeated the frauds in charge...instead they have zero vision zero work ethic and doing randi Rona ..are being the country to a stop over election fraud, go on protests to get the corrupt minister removed, provide a vision of economic growth and equality for the poor and marginalized ....the last part is the opportunity..instead they are either barking up the wrong tree of secularism or focusing on sops and reservations which will take the country back. Congress didn't learn from its defeat, what ultimately brought the down was vision against terror, Anna Hazare protest which had very specific vision on addressing corruption. Corruption still exists, economic anxiety is still real, instead of having well laid out plan to adress both. What conress gives the country is more appeasement & free churan. Lord 1
IndianRenegade Posted June 3 Posted June 3 1 hour ago, Lord said: Apparently 8 Indians of same family too The sarkari idiots who allowed the business to operate in violation of fire codes should be prosecuted for culpable manslaughter, unless India does it such incidents will continue to occur. Lord 1
Lord Posted June 3 Posted June 3 1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said: Capital needs to shift man, from Delhi to somewhere in Central India. Not only because Delhi is over crowded, but it's sits in a geographical disadvantage where it's surrounded by hills...so anything that's trapped in Delhi, remains trapped. Just like Gandhinagar, Chandigarh and potentially Amaravathi....we need another capital, planned in a rectangular fashion. Yes Delhi has so many issues which brings disrepute. Ahmedabad or Mumbai can be considered
Lord Posted June 3 Posted June 3 14 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said: The sarkari idiots who allowed the business to operate in violation of fire codes should be prosecuted for culpable manslaughter, unless India does it such incidents will continue to occur. At max they will be transferred that too if enough attention is raised. We have normalized these things too much. Pretty sure they will be getting their cut which potentially goes towards ministers too
Lord Posted June 3 Posted June 3 21 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said: No idea why stricter fines arent there. Danda is the only option
BacktoCricaddict Posted June 3 Posted June 3 2 minutes ago, Lord said: No idea why stricter fines arent there. Danda is the only option How do you keep track and enforce? You can't have 100s of police everywhere running around trying to collect fines from people. OTOH, maybe you do it a few times and others will be deterred.
IndianRenegade Posted June 3 Posted June 3 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: How do you keep track and enforce? You can't have 100s of police everywhere running around trying to collect fines from people. OTOH, maybe you do it a few times and others will be deterred. In this day and age it’s easy, install HD cctv. Use facial recognition & match govt. databases, garnish their wages if needed. It even 30% of them are made an example, things will improve. Edited June 3 by IndianRenegade
BacktoCricaddict Posted June 3 Posted June 3 (edited) 7 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said: facial recognition & match govt. databases, garnish their wages if needed. I see why one would want to do that, but it is a serious breach of privacy. You have to involve their employer. What if they are a shop-owner? Self-employed? "Cash"-worker in a low-paying job? Too many unintended consequences. I don't know the answer, but draconian solutions are probably not it. One thing was clear when we traveled in Rajasthan last December - the monuments maintained by private parties (royal family etc) were spotless. Those maintained by govt were not in good shape. And tourists were less compliant when the facility-admins themselves were not doing a great job of keeping up the beauty. Edited June 3 by BacktoCricaddict Lord 1
Lord Posted June 3 Posted June 3 30 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: How do you keep track and enforce? You can't have 100s of police everywhere running around trying to collect fines from people. OTOH, maybe you do it a few times and others will be deterred. Cameras are everywhere, people upload videos too. Stricter deterrent will always stop them in fear of being caught.
Lord Posted June 3 Posted June 3 16 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: I see why one would want to do that, but it is a serious breach of privacy. You have to involve their employer. What if they are a shop-owner? Self-employed? "Cash"-worker in a low-paying job? Too many unintended consequences. I don't know the answer, but draconian solutions are probably not it. One thing was clear when we traveled in Rajasthan last December - the monuments maintained by private parties (royal family etc) were spotless. Those maintained by govt were not in good shape. And tourists were less compliant when the facility-admins themselves were not doing a great job of keeping up the beauty. Yes thats an issue too
BacktoCricaddict Posted June 3 Posted June 3 12 minutes ago, Lord said: Cameras are everywhere, people upload videos too. Stricter deterrent will always stop them in fear of being caught. But, am afraid it will become another power-trip babu-giri situation where govt-employees shake down people. 12 minutes ago, Lord said: Yes thats an issue too ... and maybe it's the way to fix it. Where the authorities respect facilities first, and people will follow. Lord 1
straighttalk Posted June 3 Posted June 3 1 hour ago, IndianRenegade said: Congress didn't learn from its defeat, what ultimately brought the down was vision against terror, Anna Hazare protest which had very specific vision on addressing corruption. Corruption still exists, economic anxiety is still real, instead of having well laid out plan to adress both. What conress gives the country is more appeasement & free churan. I disagree on the vision against terror...while they do minority appeasement..is completely different from not acting against terror...this is the same party which defeated Paksitan in 48 65 and 71...we could say they were less proactive but same could be said about BJP during Kargil and op parakram. There is valid criticism for their approach but I don't think it's a vision against terrorism problem. Either way...they are losing because of Rahul Gandhi who cannot provide an alternative ..
Lord Posted June 3 Posted June 3 18 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: But, am afraid it will become another power-trip babu-giri situation where govt-employees shake down people. ... and maybe it's the way to fix it. Where the authorities respect facilities first, and people will follow. Yes I posted a rant on it a while bck BacktoCricaddict 1
IndianRenegade Posted June 4 Posted June 4 (edited) 20 hours ago, straighttalk said: I disagree on the vision against terror...while they do minority appeasement..is completely different from not acting against terror...this is the same party which defeated Paksitan in 48 65 and 71... They were actual Wars except may be 71 both were 48 & 65 both were imposed on us, but these were not assymteric warfare which terrorism is and also it wasn't the same party, almost 2 decades had passed since the 71 to the peak of terrorism in the valley, Indira Gandhi, probably last great leader from the family was long gone. Congress had made the country into a soft state, obvious from how Chidambaram was reduced to begging the Naxals to just talk to them, while they continue the armed terror against the state. 20 hours ago, straighttalk said: ..we could say they were less proactive but same could be said about BJP during Kargil and op parakram. yes, BJP was also wrong in handling this with kid gloves, but early 2000s were a tricky period fresh of the nuclear test. But that's no excuse. 20 hours ago, straighttalk said: There is valid criticism for their approach but I don't think it's a vision against terrorism problem. Either way...they are losing because of Rahul Gandhi who cannot provide an alternative .. vision or approch to me is just semantics. Congress answer to terrorism is endless talks, approach them with kid gloves, give legitemacy to their acts by attempting to give them space at the table. Edited June 4 by IndianRenegade
straighttalk Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 hours ago, IndianRenegade said: They were actual Wars except may be 71 both were 48 & 65 both were imposed on us, but these were not assymteric warfare which terrorism is and also it wasn't the same party, almost 2 decades had passed since the 71 to the peak of terrorism in the valley, Indira Gandhi, probably last great leader from the family was long gone. Congress had made the country into a soft state, obvious from how Chidambaram was reduced to begging the Naxals to just talk to them, while they continue the armed terror against the state. yes, BJP was also wrong in handling this with kid gloves, but early 2000s were a tricky period fresh of the nuclear test. But that's no excuse. vision or approch to me is just semantics. Congress answer to terrorism is endless talks, approach them with kid gloves, give legitemacy to their acts by attempting to give them space at the table. The criticism of that approach is valid ..however Pak and Islamic terrorism should be treated the way it should...naxalism is more nuanced...there are legitimate grievances in how the country has looted the tribals...so violent killing of them is not the right approach...within our citizens...it should be resolved through dialog and economic upliftment. Not really going to argue on this either..as there are valid points on the other side too. The issue is the total breakdown of pressure freedom and democracy in India..the way kejriwal and other leaders frame...total kleptocracy under ambani and adani...no checks and balances...economic despair and broken development ..these are issue I am glad Gen z is not buying the bs peddled by arnab and co..the end of jungle raj is near ..all we need are good opposition leaders to get rid of the fraud
Lord Posted Sunday at 09:14 PM Posted Sunday at 09:14 PM On 6/3/2026 at 5:11 AM, IndianRenegade said: action by police
IndianRenegade Posted Sunday at 11:12 PM Posted Sunday at 11:12 PM 1 hour ago, Lord said: action by police its like watching the real life version of the system movie (Sonakshi + Jothika). Lord 1
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