bsriharsha Posted March 14 Posted March 14 And the two state theory is dead. Everyone knows this even if they continue to mouth the line. It's either a single state where Palestinians continue to live in increased ghetto like conditions , with continued threats from illegal Israeli settlements OR It's a state where the Palestinians are relocated to some other place. The idea of the two state is dead right now. singhvivek141 and Stan AF 2
FischerTal Posted March 14 Posted March 14 why do the Persians care what happens in Palestine? It's an Arabic problem. This has more to do with Iran asserting its claim as the leader of the Muslim world. By blocking the Strait of Hormuz, they have sent a message to all world powers that they are a rogue state. Regime shot itself in the foot. My money is still on the US to teach these Mullahs a lesson they will never forget but it will be a prolonged conflict. will easily go into April.
bsriharsha Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 minute ago, FischerTal said: why do the Persians care what happens in Palestine? It's an Arabic problem. This has more to do with Iran asserting its claim as the leader of the Muslim world. By blocking the Strait of Hormuz, they have sent a message to all world powers that they are a rogue state. Regime shot itself in the foot. My money is still on the US to teach these Mullahs a lesson they will never forget but it will be a prolonged conflict. will easily go into April. The fundamental Shia Sunni conflict has always been there. Which is sad because Shia's by and large are very nice especially in India.
mishra Posted March 14 Posted March 14 2 hours ago, bsriharsha said: Bhai how many Hindus let out their apartments to muslim occupants? The problem goes both sides. You are mixing the issues. You very well know cause of not letting out is meat and specifically type of meat and potential kind of issue a Muslim family can bring in. Love Jihad is real when you see data of so called interfaith marriages in a courts. Why would society risk those things? However above is not same as driving out people from your neighbourhood based on faith. Muslim community has this problem. They will drive out non Muslims from their neighbourhood , from job , from business. As i said earlier if their are 10 Muslim u can be assured that 1 may be normal , 6-7 may be indifferent but 2 will be top grade ass holes. If that one normal Muslim is not heading them 10 and wielding considerable power among 10 them the two asshole will wreck havoc and indifferent ones will support the two assholes. Best case some may keep silent. Hence you see Boko harsm, isis, al quaeda, Pakistan army, Turkish regime , Hezbollah , Hamas, Let , lej and so on and on and on singhvivek141 1
mishra Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) 4 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: The problem lies in this statement itself. Even if Israel agrees to two state solution, the muslim countries of West Asia will never do that. They'll take it as a defeat of islam in the hands of yahoods as the land once governed by muslims is now under someone else's control. This is the same issue you see in India as well. Will islam let go of the superiority complex, not unless all the madarsa's are shut down, maulana's are hanged and books are banned. Else, you're just treating the symptoms and not the root cause. It's not a battle of logic, it's a battle of ego. Israel has faced survival attempts since the day of inception. It has become strong now and has full backing of US, but the moment US remove it's support, the same collective attack on Israel will resume. Why go that far? Pakistan is not letting us live in peace. It would have killed every Indian and Muslim world would have either supported or justified and very few would have opposed if Pakistan was as powerful as India and we would have been as weak as them. Muslim don’t know how to be neighbours. ego vigo sab explanation nahi hai. Problem aur fundamental hai. They don’t feel u have right to live if you have a voice or can’t convert Edited March 14 by mishra singhvivek141 and Vk1 1 1
MechEng Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) On 3/13/2026 at 6:22 PM, mishra said: Never underestimate power of human brain to find a solution to a problem. I wont be surprised if Strait of Hormuz remains blocked for decades by Iranians while Israelis keep bombing Iranian assets for decades while rest of world will figure out how to bypass Iranian created problem. How? Saudi Arabia, Qatar UAE Baharain Kuwait can all come to common understanding to develop various Ports in Oman. In that scenario, Iran is Royally Fked. How much time it will take to create Oman alternative? May be less than a Year Are you buying that infographic of trucks transporting oil by land from gulf ports to Oman and bypassing Strait of Hormuz? Not possible. The scale offered by sea freight compared to road freight is comparing the scale of data transfer through fibre optic with that of USB drive. It will be a supply chain horror scenario, 10,000 trucks going to and fro is unheard of. Admit it - US has stirred the hornet's nest and is now clueless about how this will end. Edited March 14 by MechEng
mishra Posted March 14 Posted March 14 4 hours ago, MechEng said: Are you buying that infographic of trucks transporting oil by land from gulf ports to Oman and bypassing Strait of Hormuz? Not possible. The scale offered by sea freight compared to road freight is comparing the scale of data transfer through fibre optic with that of USB drive. It will be a supply chain horror scenario, 10,000 trucks going to and fro is unheard of. Admit it - US has stirred the hornet's nest and is now clueless about how this will end. I can see a pipeline going to Muscat or wherever
Prakat Posted March 15 Author Posted March 15 Why Iran’s Most Dangerous Weapon in This War Isn’t a Missile. It’s the Yuan March 14, 2026 A senior Iranian official has told CNN that Tehran is considering allowing a limited number of oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz — but only if cargo is traded in Chinese yuan, not US dollars. The condition, if formalised, would represent the most significant challenge to the petrodollar system in its fifty-two-year history, striking at the financial architecture that underpins American global power rather than at US military assets. source: https://europeanbusinessmagazine.com/business/iran-has-just-fired-the-most-dangerous-shot-of-this-war-and-it-wasnt-a-missile/ Mariyam 1
mishra Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 2 hours ago, Prakat said: Why Iran’s Most Dangerous Weapon in This War Isn’t a Missile. It’s the Yuan March 14, 2026 A senior Iranian official has told CNN that Tehran is considering allowing a limited number of oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz — but only if cargo is traded in Chinese yuan, not US dollars. The condition, if formalised, would represent the most significant challenge to the petrodollar system in its fifty-two-year history, striking at the financial architecture that underpins American global power rather than at US military assets. source: https://europeanbusinessmagazine.com/business/iran-has-just-fired-the-most-dangerous-shot-of-this-war-and-it-wasnt-a-missile/ Useless news. In early 1950s, Iran( a democracy) put condition that they wanted 50% of money from their oil. Look how it ended. Then in mid 2020s Iranian started selling some oil in Yuan(thats why i said useless news). And you can see how it’s unfolding. Edited March 15 by mishra
Prakat Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 Iran War Live Updates: Trump Says He Wants to Delay Visit to China Because of Conflict Mr. Trump had said on Sunday that he might not make the trip if Beijing did not contribute warships to help escort merchant vessels in and out of the Persian Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz, a vital oil route that Iran has largely blockaded. Iran, however, sells oil to China and is allowing Chinese ships to transit the Gulf safely, giving Beijing little incentive to go along with the United States. Source: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/03/16/world/iran-war-trump-oil-lebanon TLDR: War going so well the Toddler-in-Chief tells China he won't come if they don't help
bsriharsha Posted March 17 Posted March 17 What China values most is Stability. Even to the point if they have to enforce nations to debt traps to provide the said stability. I can see China budging a slight bit here
Prakat Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 Don’t ‘blackmail’ us: Europe rejects Trump’s demand to help clean up Hormuz mess “This is not Europe’s war,” the EU tells Washington in a bruising rebuke on Iran even as oil prices rise. source: https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-donald-trump-strait-of-hormuz-war-iran/ Unable to convince former allies and NATO nations to help him out of his own mess.
bsriharsha Posted March 17 Posted March 17 2 hours ago, Prakat said: Don’t ‘blackmail’ us: Europe rejects Trump’s demand to help clean up Hormuz mess “This is not Europe’s war,” the EU tells Washington in a bruising rebuke on Iran even as oil prices rise. source: https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-donald-trump-strait-of-hormuz-war-iran/ Unable to convince former allies and NATO nations to help him out of his own mess. Jayshankar speak Europe has to get out of the mindset that Europe's problems are the world's problem but the world's problems aren't Europe
bsriharsha Posted March 17 Posted March 17 They'll bend over like the spineless cowards that they are.. no doubt about it Stan AF 1
Prakat Posted March 18 Author Posted March 18 This walking obituary thinks it's unfair that Iran is fighting back after he declared victory in the war.
Prakat Posted March 18 Author Posted March 18 Nobody wants to decorate the bottom of the Persian Gulf with their warships. Every military ally has long standing lines of communication with rational counterparts in the US high command and they're laughing their asses off at this. So they are all using diplomatic channels to negotiate safe passage with Iran. Meanwhile, this demented pedophile is talking about "the honour of taking Cuba" like the old man in Memoirs of a Geisha who took Chiyo's virginity. Mariyam 1
Mariyam Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Iranians would have overthrown the Ayatollah. As a result of this conflict, the Islamic Republic is going to solidify its hold on power. As I see it; Losers in this conflict Iranian people Global standing of the US military Trump Saudi Monarchy which comes across as inept when defending their homeland. China (possible LPG shortage and black marketeering) India (possible LPG shortage and black marketeering) Winners in this conflict Islamic regime of Iran State of Israel ( it's safer in the long run with a defanged Iran) Iraq ( got rid of most of US bases due to repeated Iranian missile attacks) Prakat 1
bsriharsha Posted March 23 Posted March 23 I don't see the islamic regime in Iran coming out of this war a winner. Sure they might have consolidated support in Iran but any exit from this war involves them leaving their nuclear program.
Prakat Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 @Mariyam To add to these lists... Losers Dubai Real Estate Market. They are refusing to do live video showings. Winners Russia (short term) that got its oil sanctions removed (While the Jackass is begging Putin to help stop the war that Putin has no interest in stopping when he's got oil to sell at these elevated rates.) China (long term) that will boost its EV sales across the world because of the vulnerability that everybody from office-goers and fleet operators have suddenly become alive to and are driving the growth bump in all segments. No wonder they almost completely stopped the export of silver from Jan 1, and started offering $10-$15 over comex spot in the Shanghai exchange for the last three months. There are, of course, greater intangible gains from the crumbling of the current empire. New Zealand - that is currently experiencing a glut of millionaires seeking safety. Mariyam and bsriharsha 1 1
singhvivek141 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 3 hours ago, Mariyam said: Iranians would have overthrown the Ayatollah. As a result of this conflict, the Islamic Republic is going to solidify its hold on power. As I see it; Losers in this conflict Iranian people Global standing of the US military Trump Saudi Monarchy which comes across as inept when defending their homeland. China (possible LPG shortage and black marketeering) India (possible LPG shortage and black marketeering) Winners in this conflict Islamic regime of Iran State of Israel ( it's safer in the long run with a defanged Iran) Iraq ( got rid of most of US bases due to repeated Iranian missile attacks) Dont think India will be a loser. Yeah, LPG will pinch...but we will also see a shift to induction....we have ample reserves of coal for thermal generation and with the visit of Putin in December....Nuclear Energy expansion will ramp up. In Winners list, I will include Turkiye. It had a long time ambition to regain its top position in Sunni islamic world. Loss of Saudi’s will propel them upwards. Mariyam 1
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