Spirituality and vegetarianism

[Real McCoy]

22 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Bhai don't make imaginary statistics.  Dogras of Jammu and Himachal are not vegetarian to begin with as well.  Kishtawaris, Bhaderwahis and Pahadis are staunch non vegetarian people.

 

Vegetarian diet & genetics of a JAT of Harayana can't be compared with anyone else from India.  Gujjus eat staunch Vegetarian food even more than an average Haryanvi Jat.

 

 

Anyways as far as height goes Adult males in South Korea average 173-174 cm (5'8"-5'9"), while Chinese men average 172 cm (5'8") and Indian men average 165-167 cm (5'5"-5'6").

 

To exclude Western Asia Central Asia and Iran + Eurasia to suit your logic is laughable.

 

He talks of people from these states being aggressive lol. Yeah a 5'5'' guy talking smack looks funny not aggressive. I would tell him to go eat some meat lol

[randomGuy]

29 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Bhai don't make imaginary statistics.  Dogras of Jammu and Himachal are not vegetarian to begin with as well.  Kishtawaris, Bhaderwahis and Pahadis are staunch non vegetarian people.

 

Vegetarian diet & genetics of a JAT of Harayana can't be compared with anyone else from India.  Gujjus eat staunch Vegetarian food even more than an average Haryanvi Jat.

 

 

Anyways as far as height goes Adult males in South Korea average 173-174 cm (5'8"-5'9"), while Chinese men average 172 cm (5'8") and Indian men average 165-167 cm (5'5"-5'6").

 

To exclude Western Asia Central Asia and Iran + Eurasia to suit your logic is laughable.

You are the one making imaginary stats. A Haryana vegetarian will beat handsomely a non vegetarian from Haryana. Within north India, vegetarians are strongest. Esp. the regions which i mentioned . Height in youngsters in India is 5'7"-5'8". Height is only a part of strength. Thin, narrow framed tall is weaker than broad frame north indian of same height. Outdated data of the non-youngsters is to be ignored. Indian vegetarian are the most aggressive, strong and brave group who don't back down in a fight.

 

On the internet, one can't ascertain the identity as well. You or anyone else may be a Muslim, hindu or whatever while claiming the opposite .

 

In JnK for eg, Hindu population is 28% and vegetarian population is 15-30% as per Gemini 

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• General Estimates: Most major studies and surveys—including the National Family Health Survey (NFHS)—consistently place the vegetarian population in Jammu and Kashmir on the lower end, typically estimated between 15% and 30%."

 

 

vegetarian population according to a union government srs survey of 2014 is 31% in JnK.

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CYGd11hdo/

 

Edited June 26 by randomGuy

[randomGuy]

4 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

 

He talks of people from these states being aggressive lol. Yeah a 5'5'' guy talking smack looks funny not aggressive. I would tell him to go eat some meat lol

Dil par mat lo. 

[Lone Wolf]

11 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

You are the one making imaginary stats. A Haryana vegetarian will beat handsomely a non vegetarian from Haryana. Within north India, vegetarians are strongest. Esp. the regions which i mentioned . Height in youngsters in India is 5'7"-5'8". Height is only a part of strength. Thin, narrow framed tall is weaker than broad frame north indian of same height. Outdated data of the non-youngsters is to be ignored. Indian vegetarian are the most aggressive, strong and brave group who don't back down in a fight.

 

On the internet, one can't ascertain the identity as well. You or anyone else may be a Muslim, hindu or whatever while claiming the opposite .

 

In JnK for eg, Hindu population is 28% and vegetarian population is 15-30% as per Gemini 

 

vegetarian population according to a union government srs survey of 2014 is 31% in JnK.

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CYGd11hdo/

 

Again outdated data... As per latest NFHS report around 91% of people in JK are non vegetarian 

[randomGuy]

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Jammu's "Dogra" cuisine is famous for a diverse array of vegetarian dishes that are central to the daily diet. Staples like Rajma Chawal, Madra (a creamy yogurt-based lentil/chickpea curry), and Ambal (a sour pumpkin dish) are everyday comforts. While meat dishes like Khatta Meat are traditional, they often share the table with a wide variety of vegetable-based preparations, unlike the heavy emphasis on meat found in the Kashmiri Wazwan.

 

 

Jammu Dogra diet is veg heavy vis a vis Kashmir. Anyways , Jnk Hindu population is 28% n veg population is 15-30%.

 

You can make your own mind whether veg heavy eaters are more aggressive/strong or non-veg heavy (Kashmir valley). 

[randomGuy]

4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Again outdated data... As per latest NFHS report around 91% of people in JK are non vegetarian 

 

You think populations are constant? For example, birth rates of Hindus and Muslims?

[Real McCoy]

19 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

Dil par mat lo. 

 

lol many people out of your northie circles will laugh at you when you talk like this

[Lone Wolf]

21 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

 

He talks of people from these states being aggressive lol. Yeah a 5'5'' guy talking smack looks funny not aggressive. I would tell him to go eat some meat lol

This is Unfair comparison as So Korean nominal GDP per capita is above $37000 compared to mere $2800 of India but point is priorities are in the right place and we are refusing to do even the bare minimum.

 

Geographical lottery is a thing but it doesn't have to be bad to lose one as well.

 

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

8 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

You think populations are constant? For example, birth rates of Hindus and Muslims?

Yes Hindus in JK eat Meat. Kashmiri Pandits, Dogra Rajputs l, Pahadi Hindus are all staunch non vegetarians.  Ofc veg diet is also  obvious part of their staple diet.

 

I am a frequent traveller to the place and visited most parts  of the region.

Edited June 26 by Lone Wolf

[Real McCoy]

7 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Yes Hindus in JK eat Meat. Kashmiri Pandits, Dogra Rajputs l, Pahadi Hindus are all staunch non vegetarians.  Ofc veg diet is also  obvious part of their staple diet.

 

I am a frequent traveller to the place and visited most parts  of the region.

 

I've met two kashmiri pandits both eat meat

[randomGuy]

7 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

 

lol many people out of your northie circles will laugh at you when you talk like this

Many will confirm what I say. 

 

As humanity's consciousness awakens more, human inflicted animal suffering would come down which will probably mean less non-veg, when veg food is in abundance as it is today in most parts. That is what myself and many spiritual gurus feel. Peace.

[Lone Wolf]

8 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

 

I've met two kashmiri pandits both eat meat

I have rarely seen one not eating meat..

They even have a ritual on Shivratri which involves offering meat and consuming it.  They call it herath tradition 

[Real McCoy]

8 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

Many will confirm what I say. 

 

As humanity's consciousness awakens more, human inflicted animal suffering would come down which will probably mean less non-veg, when veg food is in abundance as it is today in most parts. That is what myself and many spiritual gurus feel. Peace.

 

I was talking about your earlier point about north indian states being heathy and "aggressive" lol. Of course you are not being very "aggressive" in avoiding conflict and changing the topic. 

 

Your next point would only come true if veg food provides as much nutrition as needed. A real guru doesn't prohibit eggs from being served in mid day meals to poor children. What gurus talk is of spiritual liberation and meat eating not to general public. Of course if you are spiritually developed, you may naturally skip meat. There are people who don't eat meat who are not spiritually developed. Some even force it upon others through political means. What do you say about that?

[Real McCoy]

On 6/5/2026 at 3:07 PM, Lone Wolf said:

Vedas have accounts animal sacrifices and Shakti traditions.  Shakti traditions and Bali practices are still popular among old school Hindu ritual followers.  Pahadis, Nepalis and even Odia Bengalis follow them

 

Since Puranas were written post Mahabharata lot of the concepts of Vedas were contradicted.

 

 

The concept of Ahmisa and non violence doesn't exist in original Hinduism and we all know where it came from and the downfall of the great land of Bharatas began with that moment.

 

Where do you think it came from?

[ravishingravi]

1 minute ago, Real McCoy said:

 

Where do you think it came from?

 

Mahavir mainly and Buddha to limited extent. 

[Real McCoy]

On 6/5/2026 at 1:43 PM, Gollum said:

I am a vegetarian now, just that I consume eggs and fish oil pills. 

 

Eggs are a bare minimum for a healthy body. Egg is a complete protein unlike veggie proteins like dal, lentils and beans. I think only soy has more protein in veg but it needs to be sorted out for GMO. Anyway you may not consume it for fear of getting male breasts

[Real McCoy]

3 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Mahavir mainly and Buddha to limited extent. 

 

Interesting. So India had no non-veg restriction before that? A lot of our own history has been concealed or forgotten. There are weapons held by fighters a millenia or two ago which can't even be lifted by current humans. 

[diga]

3 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

After being vegetarian during the covid period 2020 - 2024, I'm back to eating meat. I'm fully myself back now. What a weird period back then. I eat meat at least once a week if not twice and eat 2 eggs daily except Saturdays. @Lone Wolf you are right. except for those doing meditation for liberation, it is not suited for the common man. Its not just the protein. Its also the complete protein profile in meat, zinc, boron and other micronutrients that makes meat a must have from time to time. Developed countries have meat daily and they live longer than Indians. You got to get real. 

Welcome back... Did you visit the moon during this break?

[BacktoCricaddict]

4 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Remember some of these ads as a kid, we were a proper country.

Borderline treason is what we are seeing happening in some of these states @Gollum @BacktoCricaddict

 

Aditya Dhar thankfully is giving subtle messages in his movies for kids to eat Eggs, thank goodness.

 

Meri jaan meri jaan murgi ke ande aha meri jan ... 

[BacktoCricaddict]

7 hours ago, Lord said:

 

I think in Kar they are giving bananas to vegetarians.

 

Soya could be given too as protein source

Bananas are great, but hopefully they are not giving it as an egg replacement - that would be silly. 

 

In principle, I agree about soya, but it has to be prepared in some sort of masala gravy to be palatable. Otherwise it is torture. When you put it altogether - nutrition, ease of transport, ease of distribution, cost and taste, eggs are best. Ultrapasteurized milk cartons would be a close second.