tapandrun Posted April 10 Posted April 10 (edited) 42 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: I think Jaiswal can play at 3 for ICT,atleast he is way better and not limited like Varma. 3 is locked by Kolhi but why not to play jaiswal at 5/6 ??? he has the game and he can be back-up opener. Edited April 10 by tapandrun
zen Posted April 10 Posted April 10 If nothing else, such threads serve to identify the flavor of the week. New guy and tapandrun 2
cowboysfan Posted April 10 Posted April 10 35 minutes ago, tapandrun said: 3 is locked by Kolhi but why not to play jaiswal at 5/6 ??? he has the game and he can be back-up opener. I am talking about our T20 team.
tapandrun Posted April 10 Posted April 10 8 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: I am talking about our T20 team. Leaving 1 opening spot occupied for a wk-batter in t20s. Here are the other options Ind has at top of the order -- Abhishek, Vaibhav, Arya, Kishan. And anyhow would like to see vaibhav opening. Jaiswal has tendency to slow down after pp, not sure playing him at 3 will be good idea. Its not like he is been suppressed in t20is its just that Ind has better options more suited to the t20i format.
vvvslaxman Posted April 10 Posted April 10 India has potential to build an similar ODI unit. Ultimate_Game 1
Ultimate_Game Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 7 hours ago, deepdynamo said: Yes, only one of Rohit and Kohli should be carried forward, preferably Kohli. Then why there is an obsession over KL. I would happily take Samson or Kishan over him. Given them opportunities after IPL. Jadeja(even Axar/Washi) are useless in SA 2027. Play Pandya as genuine allrounder and bring in batting or bowling allrounders as necessary. Take this team as base and build towards ODI WC. Batting till 8, no fake allrounders and 3 genuine quick bowlers. Yes, Tilak as 6th bowler is iffy but give him game time in upcoming ODI. Putting Jadeja/Axar in place of Tilak doesn't give confidence in batting. Jadeja at 7 & Rana at 8 is reciepe for disaster. If Tilak doesn't work, bring in Reddy or someone else. But a genuine batsman who can bowl. Jaiswal Gill(c) Kohli Kishan(wk) Iyer Tilak ( should bowl 3-4 overs per match) Pandya Rana Kuldeep Bumrah Siraj/Shami If I have my way I would kick out Gill too and replace him with Sai Sudarshan. IMO selectors made a blunder anointing Gill as ODI captain the same way they appointed Kohli as captain for LOIs when Rohit was a much better choice. We have Iyer who can captain and we don't need softie Gill. Gill is to ODI team what SKY is to our T20 team - a passenger. And the worse news is that Gill isn't even a good enough captain like SKY. Manucrick 1
New guy Posted April 11 Posted April 11 (edited) On 4/10/2026 at 8:09 AM, Ultimate_Game said: That's why want likes of Jaiswal, Kishan, Sai/Tilak in there coz we've seen the 5/3 story too many times followed by "one bad day", "15 bad minutes" etc. There's no reason to carry so many oldies or phattus in the ODI squad - Rohit, Kohli, Jadeja, KL, Siraj. That's way too many over the hill players compared to our T20 team and the recent results show. I am seriously doubting our world cup chances because of the oldies still in the team. I would feel way better with our fearless youngsters. Edited April 11 by New guy Ultimate_Game and express bowling 1 1
express bowling Posted April 11 Posted April 11 2 hours ago, New guy said: I am seriously doubting out world cup chances because of the oldies still in the team. I would feel way better with our fearless youngsters I agree. New guy 1
Ultimate_Game Posted April 11 Author Posted April 11 (edited) 7 hours ago, New guy said: I am seriously doubting our world cup chances because of the oldies still in the team. I would feel way better with our fearless youngsters. 5 hours ago, express bowling said: I agree. That's my fear as well that we'll waste Bumrah's career. If we don't win the WC next year Bumrah will finish his career without a WC win. That would be such an injustice to him and also to Shami. If anyone deserved a WC win it would be Bumrah and Shami but thanks to our gutless batters in knockouts we've consistently failed and yet it's the bowlers who get the blame. As I mentioned earlier we've shown beating Aus in Aus in BGT 2020-21, which to me is a tougher thing to do than winning the WC, and our recent WT20 performances where the young team scored back to back 250+ in SF and Finals, that our youngsters can beat anyone. Its Kohli & Rohit bhakats who keep on harping how they're somehow helping the team when they couldn't do much the last 3 WCs. Can you imagine our so called stars scoring 250+ in knockouts?! I would select a youngish team, pick Iyer as captain (have no faith in Gill who's soft like KL and our other seniors) and pick likes of Jaiswal, Sai, Tilak/Paddikal, Ishan etc. and backed by senior players like Iyer, Pandya, Axar, Bumrah and even Shami if Shami is somehow able to hang on bowling around late 130s to 140 kph. That's enough "experience" where 4 to 5 performing seniors back/support our fearless youngsters. We're not gonna win anything with 40 year olds and meek players. Go with confident and fearless youngsters captained by Iyer with Pandya or Axar as vice-captain. Give Bumrah a real shot of lifting the WC for once In fact I would rather take a punt on Sooryavanshi as ODI opener instead of the oldies. Edited April 11 by Ultimate_Game New guy 1
maniac Posted April 11 Posted April 11 JaisSurya is the most lethal batting pair in the world. our backups Shekson 4 destructive openers. Just ban Pak at this point and make India A an official international team. Ultimate_Game and cricspirit 2
New guy Posted April 11 Posted April 11 4 hours ago, maniac said: JaisSurya is the most lethal batting pair in the world. our backups Shekson 4 destructive openers. Just ban Pak at this point and make India A an official international team. No it's, not, it's abhisurya, jaiswal is no where near as destructive as abhishek on any level. tapandrun 1
maniac Posted April 11 Posted April 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, New guy said: No it's, not, it's abhisurya, jaiswal is no where near as destructive as abhishek on any level. Jaiswal has no real weakness. He might take 2-3 balls more than Abhishek max on a good day but he will also survive and score and score well on 10 times harder pitches. Edited April 11 by maniac Ultimate_Game, express bowling and cricspirit 3
vvvslaxman Posted April 11 Posted April 11 6 hours ago, maniac said: JaisSurya is the most lethal batting pair in the world. our backups Shekson 4 destructive openers. Just ban Pak at this point and make India A an official international team. Ban Bangladesh as well send India B as well JaFanatic and maniac 1 1
tapandrun Posted April 11 Posted April 11 1 hour ago, maniac said: Jaiswal has no real weakness. He might take 2-3 balls more than Abhishek max on a good day but he will also survive and score and score well on 10 times harder pitches. There are no 10 time harder t20i pitches and if there are then it does not matter who plays its luck cricketfan28 1
Lord Posted April 12 Posted April 12 22 hours ago, maniac said: Jaiswal has no real weakness. He might take 2-3 balls more than Abhishek max on a good day but he will also survive and score and score well on 10 times harder pitches. But is that needed in white ball? Most pitches are pattas
Lord Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Jaiswal should play ODI WC next year. Would keep Suryavanshi for T20s tapandrun and cricspirit 2
tapandrun Posted April 12 Posted April 12 24 minutes ago, Lord said: Jaiswal should play ODI WC next year. Would keep Suryavanshi for T20s jaiswal should be in 11 even if middle order need a LH batter who can bat in SA
Lord Posted April 12 Posted April 12 1 hour ago, tapandrun said: jaiswal should be in 11 even if middle order need a LH batter who can bat in SA Would open with Jaiswal. Gill can bat at 3 or Kohli at 3 and Iyer at 4. Also Samson needs to replace Rahul
tapandrun Posted April 12 Posted April 12 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lord said: Would open with Jaiswal. Gill can bat at 3 or Kohli at 3 and Iyer at 4. Also Samson needs to replace Rahul No sanju in middle order, do not confuse with t20 and opening. Sanju struggled in t20s as well while playing in middle order. Issue is gill is the captain, he can not bat out of top 3 even making him to play at 3 then you are pushing kolhi at #4, who is better at #3 kolhi or Gill and who is better at 4 iyer or kolhi ???? Thats the reason Jaiswal either opens or plays in middle order. Edited April 12 by tapandrun express bowling 1
Lord Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Just now, tapandrun said: No sanju in middle order, do not confuse with t20 and opening. Sanju struggled in t20s as well while playing in middle order. Issue is gill is the captain, he can not bat out of top 3 even making him to play at 3 then you are pushing kolhi at, who is better at #3 kolhi or Gill and who is better at 4 iyer or kolhi ???? Thats the reason Jaiswal either opens or plays in middle order. yes I want him to open. I dont think he can bat in middle order. Samson v KL is just based on intent and form. In ODIs Sanju has played in middle order and done well
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