tapandrun Posted April 12 Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Lord said: yes I want him to open. I dont think he can bat in middle order. Samson v KL is just based on intent and form. In ODIs Sanju has played in middle order and done well Vs b/c level sides. express bowling 1
Lord Posted April 12 Posted April 12 1 minute ago, tapandrun said: Vs b/c level sides. What matters is his ability to adjust. Can smash any bowler We shouldnt use T20 logic in ODI Atleast he will be better than Rahul. Or we can go with Kishan in MO
tapandrun Posted April 12 Posted April 12 19 minutes ago, Lord said: yes I want him to open. I dont think he can bat in middle order. Samson v KL is just based on intent and form. In ODIs Sanju has played in middle order and done well Form ?? Wc is 15-16 away. Odis req players playing at lower risk and high tempo. player who can hit 4/6 without taking much risk and should be able to play clean. Low risk+High tempo+efficient rotation of strike is needed in Odis, quick 20 balls 40 wont cut it for middle order batter. express bowling 1
Lord Posted April 12 Posted April 12 4 minutes ago, tapandrun said: Form ?? Wc is 15-16 away. Odis req players playing at lower risk and high tempo. player who can hit 4/6 without taking much risk and should be able to play clean. Low risk+High tempo+efficient rotation of strike is needed in Odis, quick 20 balls 40 wont cut it for middle order batter. Samson scores big even in T20s. AT 5-6, you need high SR players who can adjust if needed.
tapandrun Posted April 12 Posted April 12 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Lord said: Samson scores big even in T20s. AT 5-6, you need high SR players who can adjust if needed. Also in T20 he scored big while opening. Sanju's list A record does not look like a middle order batter just 4 100s, avg below 40. If he replaces Kl he will play at #5 need better strike rotation and ability to play clean innings Odis he only played 15 of them , so referring that data wont be good idea Statistic Sanju Samson's List A Career Matches 130 Average 34.28 Strike Rate 90.56 100s 4 50s 19 Edited April 12 by tapandrun express bowling 1
Ultimate_Game Posted April 12 Author Posted April 12 59 minutes ago, Lord said: What matters is his ability to adjust. Can smash any bowler We shouldnt use T20 logic in ODI Atleast he will be better than Rahul. Or we can go with Kishan in MO I'm a big fan of Kishan. He's my no. 1 wk in ODIS Lord 1
Lord Posted April 13 Posted April 13 Both out on ducks The curse begins @Ultimate_Game Ultimate_Game 1
Ultimate_Game Posted April 13 Author Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Lord said: Both out on ducks The curse begins @Ultimate_Game Look at the bright side... we got to see Praful Hinge Lord 1
crictime Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Abhishek Sharma scored 133 yesterday against D. He is the purple cap holder this IPL. He also scored 52 in T20 cup finals. Him and Sanju Samson are still there. It is good though that we have backups opners like Yashavi Jaiswal, Prabhsimran Singh, Vaibhav Sooryvanshi , Priyansh Arya. tapandrun 1
Ultimate_Game Posted April 22 Author Posted April 22 33 minutes ago, crictime said: Abhishek Sharma scored 133 yesterday against D. He is the purple cap holder this IPL. He also scored 52 in T20 cup finals. Him and Sanju Samson are still there. It is good though that we have backups opners like Yashavi Jaiswal, Prabhsimran Singh, Vaibhav Sooryvanshi , Priyansh Arya. Jaiswal, Sooryavanshi and Arya are far ahead of the rest of the pack, with Sooryavanshi and Jaiswal in the pole position. rollingstoned 1
crictime Posted April 22 Posted April 22 2 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: Jaiswal, Sooryavanshi and Arya are far ahead of the rest of the pack, with Sooryavanshi and Jaiswal in the pole position. Don't think what Sanju Samson did in those 3 clutch knockout matches could be bettered by anyone else. It is one thing that someone has potential to do whereas someone having played innings like those one after another. I would continue with Abhishek Sharma and Sanju Samson as two openers. Remaining would be competing for backups. tapandrun 1
Ultimate_Game Posted April 22 Author Posted April 22 (edited) 17 minutes ago, crictime said: Don't think what Sanju Samson did in those 3 clutch knockout matches could be bettered by anyone else. It is one thing that someone has potential to do whereas someone having played innings like those one after another. I would continue with Abhishek Sharma and Sanju Samson as two openers. Remaining would be competing for backups. What I meant was Abhishek and Samson are incumbents and for the next in line Sooryavanshi, Jaiswal and Arya are way ahead of others like Prabhsimran or any other opener. What Samson did is unlikely to be repeated. Winning MoM in QF, SF and Final of an ICC tourney is unheard of and I'm just glad & thankful his purple patch coincided with the knockout matches Edited April 22 by Ultimate_Game tapandrun and crictime 2
JazzyB Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Sanju abhi Arya SV Jaiswal Prabha t20 opening is in good shape without going to the likes of Gill Ultimate_Game 1
tapandrun Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) When talking about openers, think one slot should be reserved for Wk-batter, and then the 1 spot is being challenged from -- Abhishek, Vaibhav, Arya and then Jaiswal. Prab or anyother wk-batter is not competing with Abhishek/Arya/Vaibhav/Jaiswal. Wk-batters (opener) are competing with Sanju then be it Prab or any1 else. Data of last 3 ipl season (Abhishek and Jaiswal 3 and Arya and Vaibhav 2 seasons) also indicates that Arya is more impactful that jaiswal Player Season Team Matches Runs Avg Strike Rate 100s/50s Abhishek Sharma 2026* SRH 7 323 35.88 215.33 1 / 2 2025 SRH 14 439 23.11 193.39 1 / 2 2024 SRH 16 484 32.27 204.22 0 / 3 Priyansh Arya 2026* PBKS 5 211 42.20 248.23 0 / 2 2025 PBKS 17 475 27.94 179.25 1 / 2 2024 — — — — — — Yashasvi Jaiswal 2026* RR 6 245 49.00 155.06 0 / 2 2025 RR 14 559 39.93 159.71 0 / 6 2024 RR 16 435 31.07 155.91 1 / 1 Vaibhav Suryavanshi 2026* RR 7 254 36.28 220.86 0 / 2 2025 RR 7 252 36.00 206.55 1 / 1 2024 — — — — — — Edited April 22 by tapandrun
Ultimate_Game Posted April 22 Author Posted April 22 16 minutes ago, tapandrun said: When talking about openers, think one slot should be reserved for Wk-batter, and then the 1 spot is being challenged from -- Abhishek, Vaibhav, Arya and then Jaiswal. Prab or anyother wk-batter is not competing with Abhishek/Arya/Vaibhav/Jaiswal. Wk-batters (opener) are competing with Sanju then be it Prab or any1 else. Data of last 3 ipl season (Abhishek and Jaiswal 3 and Arya and Vaibhav 2 seasons) also indicates that Arya is more impactful that jaiswal Player Season Team Matches Runs Avg Strike Rate 100s/50s Abhishek Sharma 2026* SRH 7 323 35.88 215.33 1 / 2 2025 SRH 14 439 23.11 193.39 1 / 2 2024 SRH 16 484 32.27 204.22 0 / 3 Priyansh Arya 2026* PBKS 5 211 42.20 248.23 0 / 2 2025 PBKS 17 475 27.94 179.25 1 / 2 2024 — — — — — — Yashasvi Jaiswal 2026* RR 6 245 49.00 155.06 0 / 2 2025 RR 14 559 39.93 159.71 0 / 6 2024 RR 16 435 31.07 155.91 1 / 1 Vaibhav Suryavanshi 2026* RR 7 254 36.28 220.86 0 / 2 2025 RR 7 252 36.00 206.55 1 / 1 2024 — — — — — — But Jaiswal is impactful enough and more consistent. We've such beastly lineup that going for a more consistent player though slightly less destructive isn't a bad option. But if Samson tails off, there's an option for us to go with 2 of them and have Kishan at 3 as wk.
tapandrun Posted April 22 Posted April 22 24 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: But Jaiswal is impactful enough and more consistent. We've such beastly lineup that going for a more consistent player though slightly less destructive isn't a bad option. But if Samson tails off, there's an option for us to go with 2 of them and have Kishan at 3 as wk. Jaiswal had 2 550+ runs season, rest of the season are comparable to others in the question (arya/vaibav/abhishek) not sure if that much consistent than others. And Impact of other 3 is far ahead. In ipl jaiswal's sr is capping at 160 and avg caps at 40. vaibahv's avg caps at 36 and sr 220 Abhisek avg caps at 34 and sr sr 200 Priyash avg caps at 35ish and sr is ~200 Jaiswal best sr ever in ipl is 163, others are well over 170, other 3 are proper 6-hitters jaiswal is not. Is jaiswal good --yes, but he is not at same level as other 3 and vaibhav and Abhishek can bowl too.
cricketfan28 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Jaiswal should show some consolidation skills ...he won't play t20 anyway so ..why bang bang ..need proper tuk tuk.
Ravi_Shastri Posted April 23 Posted April 23 Jaiswal is a test match player who drops 4 catches per innings. Very good test batter though we have many better t20 players. Jaiswal slows down after powerplay and also many a times when he nears a milestone and has been called out previously for it by likes of Bhogle
Ultimate_Game Posted April 23 Author Posted April 23 6 hours ago, tapandrun said: Jaiswal had 2 550+ runs season, rest of the season are comparable to others in the question (arya/vaibav/abhishek) not sure if that much consistent than others. And Impact of other 3 is far ahead. In ipl jaiswal's sr is capping at 160 and avg caps at 40. vaibahv's avg caps at 36 and sr 220 Abhisek avg caps at 34 and sr sr 200 Priyash avg caps at 35ish and sr is ~200 Jaiswal best sr ever in ipl is 163, others are well over 170, other 3 are proper 6-hitters jaiswal is not. Is jaiswal good --yes, but he is not at same level as other 3 and vaibhav and Abhishek can bowl too. Agree with other points and wouldn't mind seeing Jaiswal being sidelined in favor of others but don't agree with Abhishek's bowling. He's as much a bowler as Tilak or Rinku are. And don't want to see likes of Gill being pushed over Jaiswal and others in the list.
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