What was David Miller thinking?

[Tillu]

Nothing wrong with Miller's thought process. How many of you would be confident of Kuldeep scoring the winning runs off the last ball when he had always been a pathetic fielder, batsman and a runner.

[cowboysfan]

dumbest sports moment of the year,i will tell you on DEC 31 if its the dumbest in all of sports.

[Manucrick]

SA players are chokers when the pressure is on they do stupid things

[vvvslaxman]

7 hours ago, tweaker said:

Miller didn't trust Kuldeep ' s ability to run and he was proved right ,as Kuldeep got run out.

 

How far from the crease Kuldeep was running.Kuldeep would have got run out on both the occasion 

All the more reason he should have taken that single. Because Miller would be running to the danger end

[vvvslaxman]

7 hours ago, Tillu said:

Nothing wrong with Miller's thought process. How many of you would be confident of Kuldeep scoring the winning runs off the last ball when he had always been a pathetic fielder, batsman and a runner.

But there is a possibility Miller gets a peach and gets cleaned up by Prasidh. 

[Tillu]

33 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

But there is a possibility Miller gets a peach and gets cleaned up by Prasidh. 

 

The possibility is low. Most top batsmen like Miller would back themselves to win this match from that position. Its a rare exception.

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Tillu said:

 

The possibility is low. Most top batsmen like Miller would back themselves to win this match from that position. Its a rare exception.

0% possibility vs 50/50 possibility . You get one point instantly if you get a single there as against 0 or 1 or 2 in the next ball

[Ultimate_Game]

1 minute ago, Tillu said:

 

The possibility is low. Most top batsmen like Miller would back themselves to win this match from that position. Its a rare exception.

 

Except it's not a rare exception for Miller and SA. This has happened to them consistently. Recent example was 2024 WT20 Final where they couldn't chase 30 off 30 and Miller was part of that fiasco. In fact in every tourney they've imploded so Miller would've known nothing is easy and given. This incident showed why SA sucks under pressure.

[Tillu]

8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

0% possibility vs 50/50 possibility . You get one point instantly if you get a single there as against 0 or 1 or 2 in the next ball

 

5 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Except it's not a rare exception for Miller and SA. This has happened to them consistently. Recent example was 2024 WT20 Final where they couldn't chase 30 off 30 and Miller was part of that fiasco. In fact in every tourney they've imploded so Miller would've known nothing is easy and given. This incident showed why SA sucks under pressure.

 

If Miller took the single and gave strike to Kuldeep, and if he got out on the last ball the same people would have flayed Miller for not declining the single to Kuldeep. Happens when you have a bog substandard batter at the other end.

[vvvslaxman]

9 minutes ago, Tillu said:

 

 

If Miller took the single and gave strike to Kuldeep, and if he got out on the last ball the same people would have flayed Miller for not declining the single to Kuldeep. Happens when you have a bog substandard batter at the other end.

No. would not have been blamed. If you listen to Abhishek junjunwala in the commentary box he called immediatey stupid before even 6th ball.

[vvvslaxman]

ALl said done. Redemption complete

 

[Ultimate_Game]

28 minutes ago, Tillu said:

 

 

If Miller took the single and gave strike to Kuldeep, and if he got out on the last ball the same people would have flayed Miller for not declining the single to Kuldeep. Happens when you have a bog substandard batter at the other end.

 

If kuldeep would've gotten out it would've still been a tied game and moved to Super Over. 1 off 1 with the match tied is a much better position to be in than 1 off 2 with potential to lose. Miller chose a riskier option. He chose an option where he could lose the match compared to the option where going to the Super Over was the worst option.

[Tillu]

8 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

If kuldeep would've gotten out it would've still been a tied game and moved to Super Over. 1 off 1 with the match tied is a much better position to be in than 1 off 2 with potential to lose. Miller chose a riskier option. He chose an option where he could lose the match compared to the option where going to the Super Over was the worst option.

 

With Kuldeep at the other end most top order batsmen would take the slightly riskier option of going for 2 runs in 1 ball than taking a chance in the super over which is 50-50 which is far more riskier in my opinion. It's just 2 runs not a boundary or a sixer which anyway would result in a super over if he takes the single.

Edited yesterday at 02:20 PM by Tillu

[Ultimate_Game]

23 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

No. would not have been blamed. If you listen to Abhishek junjunwala in the commentary box he called immediatey stupid before even 6th ball.

 

Literally everyone called him out when he refused the single. I didn't hear of even a single commentator or analysis which was ok with Miller's decision. It was such a poor decision that everyone was shocked he went with the option. So it's not as if people changed their opinions after the fact.

[Ultimate_Game]

48 minutes ago, Tillu said:

 

With Kuldeep at the other end most top order batsmen would take the slightly riskier option of going for 2 runs in 1 ball than taking a chance in the super over which is 50-50 which is far more riskier in my opinion. It's just 2 runs not a boundary or a sixer which anyway would result in a super over if he takes the single.

 

Nope. No sane person would trade in a tie game as the worst scenario for a situation where losing is a distinct possibility.

[velu]

after seeing how kuldeep fields , bats and runs , miller knows kuldeep cant be trusted to score even a single

 

[Ultimate_Game]

9 hours ago, velu said:

after seeing how kuldeep fields , bats and runs , miller knows kuldeep cant be trusted to score even a single

 

 

And that would've still been better than what Miller did

[zen]

a) Confidence in his ability 

b) Not wanting to expose the tailender, who had just come to the crease, in a pressure situation 

 

These type of over analysis don’t make much sense as they are like when a state has two towns where one is hit with flood and other with drought. If the leader of the state visits the flood area, people could say “oh, he visited the flood area first and not the drought area” and vice versa. 
 

 

[BacktoCricaddict]

20 hours ago, Tillu said:

 

With Kuldeep at the other end most top order batsmen would take the slightly riskier option of going for 2 runs in 1 ball than taking a chance in the super over which is 50-50 which is far more riskier in my opinion. It's just 2 runs not a boundary or a sixer which anyway would result in a super over if he takes the single.

I really don't think there was that level of risk analysis going on in Miller's mind. It was just instinctual for a well-settled middle-order bat (batting on 40*) to refuse a single to a tailender in a critical moment. I highly doubt, also, that teams incorporate situational simulations into practice time (like American football); maybe now they will.

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

I really don't think there was that level of risk analysis going on in Miller's mind. It was just instinctual for a well-settled middle-order bat (batting on 40*) to refuse a single to a tailender in a critical moment. I highly doubt, also, that teams incorporate situational simulations into practice time (like American football); maybe now they will.

 

That is where South Africans quiet often lose it on and off the field. Remember rain miscalcuation. In Tests they control things as theyhave time. When the time is less they repeatedly make mistakes.  At the MCG in 20th over Kohli gets bowled off a free hit. Ball gets deflected and run towards third man. Kohli immediately starts running. No second thoughts. IN the same situation there is a chance Miller would not have run.  That probably would have been too much  for him to process.