Islamic grooming gangs

[singhvivek141]

27 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Hindus just don't want to do lower skilled jobs and it leaves plenty of opportunities for other communities.

 

In areas where M concentration is medium to higher level this is a common theme.

They don't have to pursue higher education anyways.

 

You know, thats what was the whole purpose of those "caste"...to divide Hindu society. Not only culturally but even professionally.

 

People have started looking down at the folks who repair cars, cut hair, do plumbing or electrical works. All of that has lead to everyone running behind "blue collar jobs & pencil pushing " works. Everyone wants to become a munshi.

 

29 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

 

Proselytization is a key aspect in all Abrahamaic faiths not just M's..

 

OG religions dont do that, whether its Hinduims or Judaism.

The cults which were formed later, they understood that in order to gather followers, theh need yo offer them something lucrative. Hence this ponzy scheme was propagated..where the more people join your cult, better is the incentive.

 

Just like political parties in present era, to pull the crowd they will offer something which pulls the attention. Only to realize that they were scammed.

 

One key diff is there is no chance to turn back from that ponzy scheme. And then the violent nature of that scheme means people are too scared you are alwahs on the edge if you take a step back.

[kepler37b]

30 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

Not true at all my friend. 

 

Jews don’t proselytize. Have you heard or seen this anywhere? 

 

Christians don’t proselytize except for missionaries. 
 

Then the “peacefuls” , even a regular person from here through the course of his or her life tries to induce conversion. 

Islam is that particular faith where every follower is a soldier, maulvi, terrorist sympathizer and terror financier at the same time.  It is a faith aimed at total war. Zero concept of internal improvement. No wonder their societies are ridden with all kinds of violence and sexual abuses.

 

Any sane voice that tries for reform is branded as kaffir and is ostracized at best. 

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[randomGuy]

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[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said:

Jews don’t proselytize. Have you heard or seen this anywhere? 

In general they don't only major Instances wrt India is in North East.

 

The so called lost tribes of Jews in Mizos & Manipuri Tribes in thousands were formally converted to Judaism some decades back and were even allowed to settle in Israel 

 

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[Lone Wolf]

58 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

You know, thats what was the whole purpose of those "caste"...to divide Hindu society. Not only culturally but even professionally.

 

People have started looking down at the folks who repair cars, cut hair, do plumbing or electrical works. All of that has lead to everyone running behind "blue collar jobs & pencil pushing " works. Everyone wants to become a munshi.

 

Exactly H society has systematically given a major opening themselves.

Those blue collar skilled jobs are being lost and it's a Domino effect on upcoming generation. So there you have to  develop dependence on a particular community.

 

[ravishingravi]

 

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[ravishingravi]

If it was war of memes, this would have been hindu land by now. 

[Texy]

I'm sure similar cases have happened or are happening in other companies as well, like Amazon India.... 

[jf1gp_1]

17 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Exactly H society has systematically given a major opening themselves.

Those blue collar skilled jobs are being lost and it's a Domino effect on upcoming generation. So there you have to  develop dependence on a particular community.

 

What this will do is you will see similar things done in the name of ghar wapisi

[Lord]

8 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

If it was war of memes, this would have been hindu land by now. 

 

Was too scared to share

 

[Laaloo]

This will stop when victims start killing their perpetrators in daylight. Until then it will continue.

[jf1gp_1]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Was too scared to share

 

TCS has close to 6L employees. 

 

One thing that I find shocking is that no one paid attention to earlier allegations. How is that possible ? I have never worked for TCS but I am sure they have all the guard rail. I have seen people terminated over suggestive text this is criminal act. If the HR wasn't taking action, ombudsman would have shut this down in hrs. 

[crictime]

After so much outrage and arrests , there is a delayed probe by TCS head honcho. Where was the POSH when women needed it. Why were those arrested not suspended or why did the HR head and POSH leadership take away the duties of thee supervising from leading team members who reported sexual abuse and conversion. Many would say TCS is not your lala bania type of company and fully process oriented, however the fact is in a typical lala bania company even one complaint would lead to sacking such people after same day review of the complaints of such severe nature against women.
A company with non operational processes is useless just for having them for compliance and regulatory purpose on paper. Those in new companies would find out these are the very same people who are into conversion and sexual misconduct. Termination letter issued mentioning sexual misconduct meaning they cant show their experience and they will have to lie for the gap in employment. No escape from this. Their career is screwed.

Now late reactions from TCS are coming after media outrage and instead of the HR Managers and POSH team sorting this out on very first day, now the Chairman of company has to step in. Obviously those involved will get blacklisted on HR portals across many IT companies.

Tata Sons chairman N Chandrasekaran on Monday termed allegations at TCS Nashik as "gravely concerning and anguishing", and announced an investigation into the matter under a senior executive.

He also announced that a thorough investigation is underway under TCS' Chief Operating Officer Arathi Subramanian to establish the facts and identify individuals responsible for the situation.

[crictime]

In light of this major Human Rights and POSH department failure, TCS should do the bare minimum.

 

1. Internal HR audit of the HR department and the POSH team.
2. Conduct a 360 degree review: Take a feedback of their reporting managers from all girls who report to managers. Just send an email with multiple choice answers, TCS would not need more than a days work to publish a MCQ based questionnaire to all employees/ And another hour to use summary to find out which other managers are involved in this.
3. Review the current reporting structure thoroughly in context of the grave offence, reorganize the Managers if need be in about a months time. This can also align with Human resources hierarchy as is often done after the annual financial year which would anyways happen in this month. 
4. Government should ask the report of HR audit done by TCS after this shameful incident and also through an external committee, conduct its own separate HR audit and probe to find out who else are funding this or are involved in larger scale. TCS does not have the authority to handle investigations as police, departments involving finding financial trails and other public departments are not under them, so the government must use a separate committee who does the audit and coordinate with all required public departments to dismantle this network. Let's save the other girls from this torture, mental stress, sexual abuse and conversion. A wide probe is necessary than just involving non-fucntioning departments and the department  heads. Let the skeltons fall apart.

[bsriharsha]

There's a difference between TCS's hiring practices in places like Bangalore , Hyderabad etc and their hiring practices in cities like Nashik. 

 

A lot of the work done by TCS in Nashik requires hires by volumes. The talent just isn't there , not that it was ever fully there in TCS overall but still. In those scenarios , HR's get a lot of leeway into hires as they have strict targets to be met and invariably do things like hiring only people from their communities etc. 

[crictime]

1 hour ago, bsriharsha said:

There's a difference between TCS's hiring practices in places like Bangalore , Hyderabad etc and their hiring practices in cities like Nashik. 

 

A lot of the work done by TCS in Nashik requires hires by volumes. The talent just isn't there , not that it was ever fully there in TCS overall but still. In those scenarios , HR's get a lot of leeway into hires as they have strict targets to be met and invariably do things like hiring only people from their communities etc. 

Recruitment, Profits and operations are headache of TCS. The people are no where concerned what their profits are. What public is concerned is whether the girls working in TCS are safe nor not,  why no actions was taken by TCS when compalints were done, why did they not think their could be a wider conversion angle to this given the context. What is the point of having  Managers and Heads who know just textbook and cannot interpret or make sense of anything else, much worse even after receiving complaints of serious nature. Let's not forget the chairman of TCS has himself acknowledged that the  allegations at TCS Nashik are "gravely concerning and anguishing".  Why did other inept managers fail to act on these grave, concerning and anguishing complaints. To solve issues like these, which a manager should have easily dealth with at his level, why does a chairman of TCS needs to waste his time in this matter. Why were these things swept under the carpet on day 1.

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[bsriharsha]

Just now, crictime said:

Recruitment, Profits and operations are headache of TCS. The people are no where concerned what their profits are. What public is concerned is whether the girls working in TCS are safe nor not,  why no actions was taken by TCS when compalints were done, why did they not think their could be a wider conversion angle to this given the context. What a is the point of having  Managers and Heads who know just textbook and cannot interpret or make sense of anything else, much worse evern after receiving complaints of serious nature. Lets not forget the chairman of TCS himself has acknowledge allegations at TCS Nashik as "gravely concerning and anguishing".  Why did other inept managers fail to act on these grave, concerning and anguishing complaints. To solve issues like these which a manager should have easily dealth with at his level, why does a chaitrman of TCS needs to waste his time in this matter. 

Not justifying it in anyway. But having worked at IT for so long. I know how groupism exists. 

[bsriharsha]

And am not saying TCS shouldn't have better hiring and enforcement policies. But at this point , it's not just restricted to TCS alone. 

 

The entire HR / Recruitment teams in all companies in India need some big boots up their asses and include the heads of the companies too. 

 

There used to be a time when the recruitment atleast gauged on the character of the person being interviewed and not just the skillset. But that's long gone.