Tamil Nadu post election quagmire

[ravishingravi]

Important to keep an eye on Christian missionary activities in TN. They have done a great job of integrating religion into the culture. Now they have their own guy as CM. 

[diga]

43 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

Important to keep an eye on Christian missionary activities in TN. They have done a great job of integrating religion into the culture. Now they have their own guy as CM. 

TVK + Congress is a recipe for that mythical kumarikandam

[coffee_rules]

5 minutes ago, diga said:

TVK + Congress is a recipe for that mythical kumarikandam

Not that DMzk was far behind with cryptos running their show in eradicating sanatan and a conversion agenda , Congress was a catalyst too there 

[coffee_rules]

This seems like Amit Shah preventing Congress from joining the government with TVK. Even with Congress TVK will not be able to get the majority. Splitting ADMK ADMK will do that.

 

 

[kepler37b]

4 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

So many backstabbing. BJP leadership back Annamalai 

ADMK backstabbed BJP by cutting votes and reducing their seats to one.

DMK backstabbed Congress by giving less number of seats.

 

And the final backstab is by Congress to Stalin, even after he backed Raaga as PM material material

Looks like a plot of RGV's film..

[Stan AF]

9 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Congress has backstabbed DMK and has extended support to Joseph Vijay.

 

Congress court 9 LS seats in 2024 because of largesse of DMK.

 

TVK/Vijay would like to have smaller groups than bigger parties supporting him.

 

T VK has promised a lot of freebies in this election, just like the Congress government in Karnataka and is a big expense on the budget. If Congress joins TVK, forget about getting any extra central funds to fund the 8 g gold and other doles. 
 

This is a big  conundrum for the TVK Govt.

 

Discuss, would like to know opinions of TN ICFErs @velu @Stan AF @vvvslaxman @bowl_out

 

10 in 2019 as well 

[Gollum]

Very slimy move by Congress. 

 

DMK consistently supported them, Stalin backed RaGa publicly so many times when the latter was the butt of jokes. DMK also gives them too many seats every time. 

Edited May 7 by Gollum

[Lone Wolf]

18 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Very slimy move by Congress. 

 

DMK consistently supported them, Stalin backed RaGa publicly so many times when the latter was the butt of jokes. DMK also gives them too many seats every time. 

TN perhaps contributes heavily to UPA alliance when it comes to funding for LS elections as well.

 

The sheer desperation to control all three major economic power house of TN, MAH and Gujarat comes from there.  This is where the money making engine room is 

[G_B_]

8 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

So many backstabbing. BJP leadership back Annamalai 

ADMK backstabbed BJP by cutting votes and reducing their seats to one.

DMK backstabbed Congress by giving less number of seats.

 

And the final backstab is by Congress to Stalin, even after he backed Raaga as PM material material

 

Its not as simple.

 

Bjp had 33 seats on symbol.

 

But bulk were concentrated in the south. Had few seats in chennai and kongu. But bulk in south.

 

The entire admk vote collapsed in the south. If you look where admk won mostly it was the vanniyer belt due to pmk vote transfer and three way fight.

 

Bjp also hit in south by sasikala candidates. The thevar vote they were counting on split. Nainar lost due to this. Ammk too suffered here.

 

Kk district bjp had 30% vote share. Quite stable. Result was dmk+ 5 seats and admk 1 seats. Hindu youth voted for vijay cause annamalai absent.

 

I think bjp + ammk + sasikala would have resulted in some seats.  Templete for lok sabha should be bjp+ ammk+sasikala+ pmk. Easier said than done as dmk will offer seats to replace cong to ammk etc

 

 

So i dont think narrative is backstabbing. Its a combo of gambles gone bad + collapse in regional admk vote share

[bsriharsha]

I do think there's a case for Vijay to not make a claim for the government. 

 

He can force the opposition to make a ragtag government and then get the public on his side for an even more overwhelming verdict next time around. 

[vvvslaxman]

11 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

Important to keep an eye on Christian missionary activities in TN. They have done a great job of integrating religion into the culture. Now they have their own guy as CM. 

Ya 100% of Tamilnadu will convert to christianity. What will they do with 80000 temples in Tamilnadu (Most in India for any state). jeez i have no answer. Missionary activities were alway there in certain areas. Nadar community predominantly converted to christianity in 18th , 19th century to escape from caste based oppression. Using that as propaganda now for politics is really naive. How is this even important for a common man? If this is the agenda BJP is going to use like they do in other states, they are not winning anything. 

[ravishingravi]

 

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Enda saiyyum teriillai. Whole countries like this.

[velu]

looks like there is some strong back channel activity going on between admk/dmk 

dmk/admk will be safer for tn than this inexperienced tvk , vijay wants everything to fall on his lap and he might do the same thing in governance as well 

 

will be fun if it happens .. people who voted for tvk will be super mad , but they need some punishment  

[kepler37b]

7 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

 

TN has dehaat. But they put the dehatiness aside when working on assembly line. Low expectations and discipline. No wonder TN is an industrial power.

 

[randomGuy]

 

^^vijay fan

Edited May 8 by randomGuy

[kepler37b]

14 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

 

^^vijay fan

On positive side bro is fit with very less fat. Must be a assembly line worker or a paddy farmer. 

[kepler37b]

17 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Ya 100% of Tamilnadu will convert to christianity. What will they do with 80000 temples in Tamilnadu (Most in India for any state). jeez i have no answer. Missionary activities were alway there in certain areas. Nadar community predominantly converted to christianity in 18th , 19th century to escape from caste based oppression. Using that as propaganda now for politics is really naive. How is this even important for a common man? If this is the agenda BJP is going to use like they do in other states, they are not winning anything. 

Becoz, the christians think that hindu gods are demons and hindus deserve hell fire. 

 

I have absolutely no problem if they convert to sikhism, buddhism, jainism, atheism or even vijay-fanism.

 

"All religions are equal and same" is an pseudo-scientific ideology.  It is a lazy generalization.

[randomGuy]

36 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

On positive side bro is fit with very less fat. Must be a assembly line worker or a paddy farmer. 

Endurance wise and working in extreme conditions, i don't think anyone matches Bihari brothers..even if you have to lay railway in Kashmir, roads in border areas, you will employ Bihari, which is unfortunate because Kashmiris should be doing such hard work...

 

Granted Biharis will work for money like everyone else, but it's a fact that others won't be able to do such work even for twice the money.

 

So, i don't think Tamils or others stand a chance against Biharis.

Edited May 8 by randomGuy

[vvvslaxman]

26 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

Becoz, the christians think that hindu gods are demons and hindus deserve hell fire. 

 

I have absolutely no problem if they convert to sikhism, buddhism, jainism, atheism or even vijay-fanism.

 

"All religions are equal and same" is an pseudo-scientific ideology.  It is a lazy generalization.

 

When you say christians you are talking about 2.6 billion christians in the world. They all don't htink that way. Most don't even know there is  a religion named Hindu. I have never met  a christian that thinks that way. I have christian class mates, co workers. Hardcore catholics. This is just a propaganda. to polarize people.