Arshdeep comments about Tilak Varma

[bsriharsha]

And Arshdeep should know the irony of criticising someone by their looks. 

 

 

[New guy]

57 minutes ago, bsriharsha said:

My kid who's 13 knows better to refer to someone by the colour of their skin. 

 

Defending Arshdeep doesn't help. 

You can see it's the same people teaching their next generation that it's ok to be racist and it's just something boys do.

 

Racists also have racist kids and racist relatives and racist friends spreading the virus among themselves generation after generation 

[jf1gp_1]

2 hours ago, bsriharsha said:

My kid who's 13 knows better to refer to someone by the colour of their skin. 

 

Defending Arshdeep doesn't help. 

My kid has a certain condition. God knows the kind of crap I have heard on this condition. However large number of those who spoke crap didn't realize they were hurting someone and I just leave it at they didn't know better. 

[Ultimate_Game]

Colorism is entrenched in our society. Anyone remember Fair and Lovely ads or matrimonial ads asking for "fair and beautiful" brides when the potential groom would be the biggest eye sore on the planet. It's not just limited to color of the skin but any physical handicap. Terms like "chotu" or "bauna" is common to target short people or calling people "andha", "kaana", "battery", "chokha" or calling someone "kaalu" when they're dark skinned etc. when they wear glasses. Other terms such as "loola", "langda" targeting physical deformity are equally common. It's ingrained in our soceity and nobody even thinks of this as bad.

 

You learn about these things when you step outside the country and realize you shouldn't have plenty of things which you used to do or say. But you can't really blame folks when they still live in the same environment and I would've continued to be the same if I had continued to live there. No easy answer and TBH can't really blame anyone as well. Don't think it'll change and have no ideas as well. The start would be banning ads or products like Fair and Lovely so at least people start noticing its wrong.

 

Can't blame Arshdeep as don't think he did it intentionally and doesn't even realize it's wrong. From his perspective he was pulling Tilak's leg. We used to do it in the past as kids and doubt things have changed.

[Lord]

Needs to be banned for 2-3 months.

 

This is as crass as Pandu's karke aya 

[Lord]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ipl-2026-arshdeep-singh-calling-tilak-varma-andhera-is-colourism-and-it-is-a-problem-not-banter-1537034

 

Arshdeep calling Tilak 'andhera' is colourism and it is a problem, not banter

 

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Just a minute's detour on why it could be trivial for Arshdeep. Sardars are one of the communities most targeted for their appearance. Forget the post-9/11 mistaking them for Arabs - both wear turbans, you see - in India you can possibly count on one hand normal Sardar characters in a Bollywood movie or popular culture. They are mostly goofballs, some are overzealously patriotic and will most likely be martyred within 15 minutes of their first appearance. You can't show a Sardar in the stands without Ravi Shastri infantilising them with a "balle balle". Look only as far as Navjot Sidhu, who continues to be a caricature despite a detour into serious political life.

 

You might find it egregious that a man from one of the most harassed communities is indulging in something similar, but this is a possible instinctive reaction to being othered for your identity. Normalising abuse is a known coping mechanism. Also then you pick out vulnerable ones and go after them even before anyone can go after you.

 

[Vancouver]

A lot of public controversies happen because people see a short clip without background, translations lose nuance, and social media immediately assumes intent.

If “Andhera” actually turns out to be a long-standing nickname that Tilak Varma himself is fine with, then the accusations of racism become much weaker. Sports teams and friend groups often have genuinely bizarre nicknames.

 

Very recently, Harbhajan Singh got dragged for saying Jofra Archer’s “meter is running faster than a London black taxi” while talking about him leaking runs. People instantly interpreted it as a racial remark because Archer is Black, even though “London black taxi” is literally a common phrase.

 

Also, Arshdeep isn’t some senior figure over Tilak who can bully him through age or hierarchy. They’re basically peers. Maybe wait for actual context before declaring someone racist with certainty.

[Suhaan]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ipl-2026-arshdeep-singh-calling-tilak-varma-andhera-is-colourism-and-it-is-a-problem-not-banter-1537034

 

Arshdeep calling Tilak 'andhera' is colourism and it is a problem, not banter

 

 

Punishment do jo jaruri ho,dono (Arsh-Tilak)ek dusre ko jhapiya pappiya pao aur aage badho

Edited May 17 by Suhaan

[jf1gp_1]

1 hour ago, Vancouver said:

A lot of public controversies happen because people see a short clip without background, translations lose nuance, and social media immediately assumes intent.

If “Andhera” actually turns out to be a long-standing nickname that Tilak Varma himself is fine with, then the accusations of racism become much weaker. Sports teams and friend groups often have genuinely bizarre nicknames.

 

Very recently, Harbhajan Singh got dragged for saying Jofra Archer’s “meter is running faster than a London black taxi” while talking about him leaking runs. People instantly interpreted it as a racial remark because Archer is Black, even though “London black taxi” is literally a common phrase.

 

Also, Arshdeep isn’t some senior figure over Tilak who can bully him through age or hierarchy. They’re basically peers. Maybe wait for actual context before declaring someone racist with certainty.

How dare you defend Arshdeep? Who care what's the context or inside joke etc etc moral police on this forum has not just declared Arshdeep racist but questioned all punjabi players (which in itself is hilarious). 

[Trichromatic]

1 hour ago, Vancouver said:

A lot of public controversies happen because people see a short clip without background, translations lose nuance, and social media immediately assumes intent.

If “Andhera” actually turns out to be a long-standing nickname that Tilak Varma himself is fine with, then the accusations of racism become much weaker. Sports teams and friend groups often have genuinely bizarre nicknames.

 

Very recently, Harbhajan Singh got dragged for saying Jofra Archer’s “meter is running faster than a London black taxi” while talking about him leaking runs. People instantly interpreted it as a racial remark because Archer is Black, even though “London black taxi” is literally a common phrase.

 

Also, Arshdeep isn’t some senior figure over Tilak who can bully him through age or hierarchy. They’re basically peers. Maybe wait for actual context before declaring someone racist with certainty.

 

And who will bring out the actual context?

 

This type of outrage is need to find out the actual context.

[diga]

54 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

And who will bring out the actual context?

 

This type of outrage is need to find out the actual context.

Why create the controversy in the first place?

[Gollum]

5 hours ago, Vancouver said:

A lot of public controversies happen because people see a short clip without background, translations lose nuance, and social media immediately assumes intent.

If “Andhera” actually turns out to be a long-standing nickname that Tilak Varma himself is fine with, then the accusations of racism become much weaker. Sports teams and friend groups often have genuinely bizarre nicknames.

 

Very recently, Harbhajan Singh got dragged for saying Jofra Archer’s “meter is running faster than a London black taxi” while talking about him leaking runs. People instantly interpreted it as a racial remark because Archer is Black, even though “London black taxi” is literally a common phrase.

 

Also, Arshdeep isn’t some senior figure over Tilak who can bully him through age or hierarchy. They’re basically peers. Maybe wait for actual context before declaring someone racist with certainty.

If Tilak was fine with it, MI wouldn't have posted that video. You could see how uneasy he was in that exchange. 

 

Also once can be a misunderstanding. But when he has done the same with Sai Sudarshan, Sakib Hussain, that is a pattern. Galti sab karte hai, but one needs to learn from that, apologize from the heart and not repeat it. He is not a kid, also not shielded from the outside world. 

[Gollum]

People suspect Harbhajan because of his history. The monkeygate of 2008 tour, I don't buy the maa ki excuse, feel like Sachin was just saving his buddy. 

 

That monkey jibe directed at Symonds had history, because in 2007 ODI tour to India, there were many monkey chants and gestures targetting him in multiple venues, there were cases filed against the fans. Ther definitely was some heat coming into the 2007-08 tour.

Monkey-chants controversy in Mumbai too

Andrew Symonds was subjected to more racial abuse during the final one-day match of the series in Mumbai

 

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[New guy]

4 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said:

How dare you defend Arshdeep? Who care what's the context or inside joke etc etc moral police on this forum has not just declared Arshdeep racist but questioned all punjabi players (which in itself is hilarious). 

There is no context in which you call someone andhera and ask them about sub screen

.no context

 

Yes. Racists always make excuses for racism, we know that 

 

But they don't fool anyone 

 

Also it's ironic you recognize the problem with questioning all Punjabi players for the action of one, but don't realize judging and teasing someone for skin color is the exact same mentality and same problem or teasing your kids

 

Making jokes because someone wears pagadi is racism. But so is this 

 

We should make the world better so our kids grow up in a better world, where people are knowledgeable and kids don't get hurt.

Edited May 17 by New guy

[Gollum]

14 minutes ago, New guy said:

There is no context in which you call someone andhera and ask them about sub screen

.no context

 

Yes. Racists always make excuses for racism, we know that 

 

But they don't fool anyone 

 

Also it's ironic you recognize the problem with questioning all Punjabi players for the action of one, but don't realize judging and teasing someone for skin color is the exact same mentality and same problem or teasing your kids

 

Making jokes because someone wears pagadi is racism. But so is this 

 

We should make the world better so our kids grow up in a better world, where people are knowledgeable and kids don't get hurt.

It is 2026, we need to draw a hard line when it comes to colourism. So many of our felllow countrymen are made to feel bad about something not in their control, have their childhood ruined, self-confidence shattered, they carry that hurt throughout adulthood as well, have their professional careers adversely affected. 

 

Laxman Siva didn't make those allegations from thin air. Ofc why should Indian cricket be immune to this pan-India problem? Up to BCCI, fellow players, cricket fans/community, sponsors to chuck out this problem. If they have to make an example out of a player by banning him for a few games, full support from my end. 

Edited May 17 by Gollum

[Mariyam]

9 hours ago, Lord said:

Needs to be banned for 2-3 months.

 

This is as crass as Pandu's karke aya 

That is very harsh.

 

Dock pay for a game or two.

 

Why is the urge to punish so strong?

[Lord]

1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

That is very harsh.

 

Dock pay for a game or two.

 

Why is the urge to punish so strong?

 

Urge to disciplone

[govinda]

Typical punjabis racism against us southies their brothelwood makes films like podosan, chennai express and param sundari to. Mock us

[Trichromatic]

5 hours ago, diga said:

Why create the controversy in the first place?

 

There is no controversy.

[bsriharsha]

Arshdeep will be well served taking some lessons from Bumrah in this. 

 

Look at how Bumrah behaves compares to how Arshdeep behaves. Both Punjabis , also education from parents played a part too. Bumrah's mother is a single parent and school teacher/principal.