India squads Vs Afghanistan

[Lone Wolf]

3 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

What is suspicious about this? Was picked because he performed well for the 'A' and has the attributes for an international bowler. 

Indian fans rarely watch India A cricket and get surprised when a bowler/batter gets selected on merit for once.

I am surprised they don't see how average Nabi is??  Do you want Mo Abbas type bowler bowling in an India shirt??

 

I am glad selectors learnt from Kamboj fiasco

[Lone Wolf]

7 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

We should be very very careful about ranji stats . Except  6-7 teams all other teams are trash. 

Only performance against the those good teams counts .

Nobody is willing to say harsh truth.. a team like JnK had no buisness winning Ranji Trophy also shows how much Ranji standards have fallen.

[express bowling]

13 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

But it makes domestic irrelevant.

 

 

Making domestic cricket relevant is not the objective. 

 

Winning big tests series and big tournaments in international cricket is the objective. 

 

Nabi type pacer can help do this only in 1st innings of tests in Eng, NZ, SA. But we have good 1st innings pacers like Bumrah and Siraj. Need good hit the deck bounce bowlers like Gurnoor for 2nd innings.

 

 

13 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Landing the ball on the spot is also an art. SHould have tried him before discarding him. Afghanistan is the best team to try against. 

 

Need to find tall, bouncy pacers who can land the ball on the spot. 

 

Edited May 19 by express bowling

[bowl_out]

Kuldeep is a disaster in ODI. WC'23 should have been his last. I'd even pick Sai Kishore ahead of him.

Suthar is regarded a red ball specialist. Haven't seen much of him

Good see Gurnoor Brar.

 

Sai should be in the ODI squad instead of Rohit

Would have liked to see Sarfaraz or even Smaran ahead of Sai in Tests

 

[Prabhdeep Singh]

Surely Tilak VERMA is not just T20 player, he has to be picked for the Test Team at number 3 spot, surprised he is in none of the squads.

[prudent_kreeda]

2 hours ago, bowl_out said:

Kuldeep is a disaster in ODI. WC'23 should have been his last. I'd even pick Sai Kishore ahead of him.

Suthar is regarded a red ball specialist. Haven't seen much of him

Good see Gurnoor Brar.

 

Sai should be in the ODI squad instead of Rohit

Would have liked to see Sarfaraz or even Smaran ahead of Sai in Tests

 

Biggest miss is Jaiswal. Rohit is blocking his place.

[bowl_out]

1 hour ago, prudent_kreeda said:

Biggest miss is Jaiswal. Rohit is blocking his place.

 

Rohit is blocking the next 3 top order players - Jaiswal, Sooryavanshi and Sai

[vvvslaxman]

4 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Making domestic cricket relevant is not the objective. 

 

Winning big tests series and big tournaments in international cricket is the objective. 

 

Nabi type pacer can help do this only in 1st innings of tests in Eng, NZ, SA. But we have good 1st innings pacers like Bumrah and Siraj. Need good hit the deck bounce bowlers like Gurnoor for 2nd innings.

 

 

 

Need to find tall, bouncy pacers who can land the ball on the spot. 

 

I am not sure they pick based on any parameters like you suggest. Kartik Tyagi would surpass these guys if we strictly go by attributes. He is selected because he is from GT.  That's it.  GIll's team. In the SA A match he took a couple of tailender wickets.  Tanush Kotian bowled brilliantly taking 8 wickets. He is not even in the scheme of things. He is a fantastic batsman too. They dropped him for 2nd test and played Akash deep. Gurjapneet singh is also tall. Selectors don't go by attributes or vision. Selection invovles politics. 

 

India needs swing bowlers too which is where most of the SA and Austarlian batsmen are vulnerable against. I know he is slow. But he is not Kamboj level ineffective. He does move the ball around. INdia consistently sucks in rainy swinging conditions where as opposition is all over us because we don't have swing bowlers. Most recently at Bengaluru we were bowled out for 46 . On the same day we couldn't do the same. 

[Norman]

A 42 year old unfit old Rohit sharma playing the ODI World Cup in South Africa ahead of a young bustling Yashasvi Jaiswal will be the biggest piece of self sabotage we will ever experience.

 

Just thinking about it makes me wanna vomit.

[singhvivek141]

12 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Most supsicious selection is Gurnoor Brar. Couldn't find a spot in playing XI of GT. But found his way into both Test and ODI squad

Gurnoor is a proper Test match bowler.

[singhvivek141]

12 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

How is Nabi not in the Test squad. He definitely moves the ball both ways.

Nabi is a trundler.

At 120-125 kph...its easier to bully domestic batters..but not to international ones who will punish the rank balls. 

 

Gurnnor bowls 138-143 in FC, and has the experience of bowling lot of overs in FC, plus he can bat.

 

Even in tests like England or SA...pitch can flatten out by second session and thats where you need tall pacers to extract the life. Siraj & Prasidh did exactly in the final test when he won against England.

 

What Nabi is doing, he will at best be a new ball bowler, at his pace he cant even get reverse.

[vvvslaxman]

15 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Nabi is a trundler.

At 120-125 kph...its easier to bully domestic batters..but not to international ones who will punish the rank balls. 

 

Gurnnor bowls 138-143 in FC, and has the experience of bowling lot of overs in FC, plus he can bat.

 

Even in tests like England or SA...pitch can flatten out by second session and thats where you need tall pacers to extract the life. Siraj & Prasidh did exactly in the final test when he won against England.

 

What Nabi is doing, he will at best be a new ball bowler, at his pace he cant even get reverse.

 

His run up looks a little ungainly like Arjun tendulkar. Need to see more of him in real match scenario. As of now all i have is some hazy youtube videos. On a road wicket in raji final Nabi did well against a  good team. Need to see him in real match scenario as well before summarily dismiss him. 

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/ranji-trophy-2025-26-1492381/karnataka-vs-jammu-kashmir-final-1492524/full-scorecard

 

checked Gurnoor brara in Ranji.. He averages 47.50 in 2 matches. Looks like a poor returns. Also 52 runs in 18 matches that is less than 2 wickets per match. pretty unimpressive stats in List A and T20. Seems like a totally wild card pick. 

Edited May 20 by vvvslaxman

[Suhaan]

12 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Indian fans rarely watch India A cricket and get surprised when a bowler/batter gets selected on merit for once.

I am surprised they don't see how average Nabi is??  Do you want Mo Abbas type bowler bowling in an India shirt??

 

I am glad selectors learnt from Kamboj fiasco

Many of them pretend to be real experts of the game raise their eyebrows for someone like Brar(why not typical line length spealiist Aquib,very much like dihati selectors , commentators)but not for Sai,who looked like a clown in test cricket

Sai should have been relegated to domestics and asked to spend ample time there

[Suhaan]

13 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Most supsicious selection is Gurnoor Brar. Couldn't find a spot in playing XI of GT. But found his way into both Test and ODI squad

Most suspicious selection is Sai

 

[vvvslaxman]

9 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Most suspicious selection is Sai

 

I would say he should have been dropped. He was already with Test team. All GT team members.  

[singhvivek141]

44 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

His run up looks a little ungainly like Arjun tendulkar. Need to see more of him in real match scenario. As of now all i have is some hazy youtube videos. On a road wicket in raji final Nabi did well against a  good team. Need to see him in real match scenario as well before summarily dismiss him. 

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/ranji-trophy-2025-26-1492381/karnataka-vs-jammu-kashmir-final-1492524/full-scorecard

 

checked Gurnoor brara in Ranji.. He averages 47.50 in 2 matches. Looks like a poor returns. Also 52 runs in 18 matches that is less than 2 wickets per match. pretty unimpressive stats in List A and T20. Seems like a totally wild card pick. 

I think he had once 11 wkts in 5 Ranji games or similar as Punjab team wasn't picking him in Ranji consistently. One game here and there and then dropped. 
2023 Cooch Behar is where he played U23 and bowled some sensational spells, post which Punjab started playing him regularly in 2023 and 2024. He missed 2025 Ranji due to injury, but he was pick of the bowlers in the A tour.

Someone who is around the the A team and in the nets, he's gonna get more preference. Considering he has height and pace. We don't have many tall pacers who are 6.3/6.4 or above and can bowl at decent pace. Kuldeep and Yudhvir have lost the pace, Arshdeep never had pace. Only Prasidh and Gurnoor are in the horizon.

Tyagi can leapfrog him, but Tyagi has to prove his fitness in the Ranji and VHT this year. 

[tweaker]

54 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

checked Gurnoor brara in Ranji.. He averages 47.50 in 2 matches. Looks like a poor returns. Also 52 runs in 18 matches that is less than 2 wickets per match. pretty unimpressive stats in List A and T20. Seems like a totally wild card pick. 

Gurnoor Brar has 52 wickets in 18 matches .

 

Gurnoor is not among the top wickets taker in Ranji season.

 

Aquib has taken 60 wickets in 10 matches this season and has been consistent in last 2,3 seasons.He deserved to be in the squad in home series against Afghanistan.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

 

 

checked Gurnoor brara in Ranji.. He averages 47.50 in 2 matches. Looks like a poor returns. Also 52 runs in 18 matches that is less than 2 wickets per match. pretty unimpressive stats in List A and T20. Seems like a totally wild card pick. 

 

 

Gurnoor averages 27 in First Class Cricket. With almost 3 wickets per match.  And he has done well in A team games recently. 

 

The team is looking for tall, hit the deck pacers because we are not doing that well in the 2nd innings away from home since 2023. [ After Bumrah's 2nd back problem and Shami getting old ]

 

And Gurnoor is the best tall, hit the deck, bounce bowler we have available among newbies. 

 

We gave good new ball pacers in Bumrah, Siraj and Akashdeep.

 

It is quite simple really.

[vvvslaxman]

8 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

I think he had once 11 wkts in 5 Ranji games or similar as Punjab team wasn't picking him in Ranji consistently. One game here and there and then dropped. 
2023 Cooch Behar is where he played U23 and bowled some sensational spells, post which Punjab started playing him regularly in 2023 and 2024. He missed 2025 Ranji due to injury, but he was pick of the bowlers in the A tour.

Someone who is around the the A team and in the nets, he's gonna get more preference. Considering he has height and pace. We don't have many tall pacers who are 6.3/6.4 or above and can bowl at decent pace. Kuldeep and Yudhvir have lost the pace, Arshdeep never had pace. Only Prasidh and Gurnoor are in the horizon.

Tyagi can leapfrog him, but Tyagi has to prove his fitness in the Ranji and VHT this year. 

 

 

If he can serve well in Test it is fine. But i still believe Kartik taygi should be part of the set up ahead of this guy atleast in LOI.  He finds himself in both LOI and Test squad. In t20 he goes well over 10 an over. 

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/who-is-gurnoor-brar-spotted-by-shubman-gill-impressed-shikhar-dhawan-with-pace-being-groomed-by-ashish-nehra/articleshow/131197663.cms

 

Based on this article it says "Spotted by Shubman Gill". Both punjabi/GT connection?  It is not that easy to find a spot in India squad without performing in IPL. So it will raise eye brows of people when domestic performers have numbers on their side. 

[tweaker]

3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Based on this article it says "Spotted by Shubman Gill". Both punjabi/GT connection? 

If Gurnoor can be selected for both test and odi ,why he didn't get any games for GT.

Gurnoor didn't play any IPL games , was not in list of highest wickets takers(less than 15 wickets),but is preferred over other just because he played some A matches.

Those who performed in that A matches Ie Kotian is completely ignored.