So, what has happened to Jaiswal?

[Gollum]

16 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Jaiswal was never a gun T20 batter like Gill is.. but that being said he is not a 100-120 S/R better either.

So he is probably is lacking confidence atm and getting dropped from ODI format will sting

 

Selectors should really take a call on unfit middle aged man Rohit counting age fraud years he might be in his early 40's.

 

It is shameful that we are still selecting this guy in this day and age when batting talent in India for limited overs cricket is overflowing.

 

Gill and Jaiswal should follow the Rachin route. Three format dominance isn't for everyone. 

[Gollum]

Jaiswal can have a Graeme Smith type career. And that is legendary enough for me. If he manages that, we will see a lot of test glory. Already has matchwinning test 100s in Eng and Aus. 

 

After pace AR, test opening is the toughest job in cricket. Jaiswal is on track for the moment, 2500+ runs, 49+ avg, balanced record home and away. 

 

He was giving T20 auditions in tests last year, hope that nonsense stops. Grit it out and score big 100s. A 500+ series in next year's home BGT and people will celebrate him again. 

Edited May 28 by Gollum

[vvvslaxman]

36 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Jaiswal was never a gun T20 batter like Gill is.. but that being said he is not a 100-120 S/R better either.

So he is probably is lacking confidence atm and getting dropped from ODI format will sting

 

Selectors should really take a call on unfit middle aged man Rohit counting age fraud years he might be in his early 40's.

 

It is shameful that we are still selecting this guy in this day and age when batting talent in India for limited overs cricket is overflowing.

 

Given the GT Bias and Punjabi bias from Gill, Jaiswal may have to grow in the shade of Gill. Even within RR set up nepo kid Paragh is the leader.  Opening is the most important job in SENA tours. So he is still going to be our trump card in overseas tours. Abhishek and Sai may be competition for him in the ODI. He can quieten everyone with one box office series whenver he gets a chance. Kishan literlaly broke the door down and came back into T20 set up. He has to have something like that. He is far too talented not to be able to tod that.

Edited May 28 by vvvslaxman

[Lone Wolf]

23 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Gill and Jaiswal should follow the Rachin route. Three format dominance isn't for everyone. 

If not Gill , Jaiswal definitely has a chance to get to 10k test runs.  This would be a great achievement for him.   Throw in a couple of few SENA MoTS in winning cause and a couple of WTC's he will be a legendary figure and his legacy cemented as an ATG.

 

Reckon Rachin is aiming for something similar.

[Gollum]

 

[Gollum]

6 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

If not Gill , Jaiswal definitely has a chance to get to 10k test runs.  This would be a great achievement for him.   Throw in a couple of few SENA MoTS in winning cause and a couple of WTC's he will be a legendary figure and his legacy cemented as an ATG.

 

Reckon Rachin is aiming for something similar.

Problem for him is test opening slot is so unforgivable, especially when you are in a rut. Takes a mental toll also, Cook retired at the age of 33 when Sachin's record was reachable. In general, test openers rarely make it past 35. 

 

Brook, Bethell, Gill, Rachin all will be well protected in MO. We all saw how Gill fared when he was opening or at #3. 

 

In terms of batting legacy also, openers aren't given their due. People can hype Kallis, Amla, ABDV all they want, but their MVP in my eyes was always Smith. 

Edited May 28 by Gollum

[Lone Wolf]

8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Given the GT Bias and Punjabi bias from Gill, Jaiswal may have to grow in the shade of Gill. Even within RR set up nepo kid Paragh is the leader.  Opening is the most important job in SENA tours. So he is still going to be our trump card in overseas tours. Abhishek and Sai may be competition for him in the ODI. He can quieten everyone with one box office series whenver he gets a chance. Kishan literlaly broke the door down and came back into T20 set up. He has to have something like that. He is far too talented not to be able to tod that.

Everyone is saying good things about Parag as a leader.  I was hearing him at toss and dude is articulate and meticulous and his thinking is clear..  Shanaka himself is saying he can be a v good leader in the making for India.  Dude is v young like 24.  Jaiswal doesn't seem like a leader and it's fine honestly.  He comes across as a guy who thinks a bit too much about his own performance and batting kinda like SRT which is fine honestly.

 

Kishan is versatile in a sense that he can bat in middle order bash spin and pace alike.  And breaks the right handed dominance in the top six.

 

Rohit is the weakest link and I am giving benefit of the doubt to Kohli here whose fitness is still keeping him going.  His self centred selfish batting is something that works in ODIs at no 3.  

 

[Lone Wolf]

5 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Problem for him is test opening slot is so unforgivable, especially when you are in a rut. Takes a mental toll also, Cook retired at the age of 33 when Sachin's record was reachable. In general, test openers rarely make it past 35. 

 

Brook, Bethell, Gill, Rachin all will be well protected in MO. 

 

In terms of batting legacy also, openers aren't given their due. People can hype Kallis, Amla, ABDV all they want, but their MVP in my eyes was always Smith. 

In SC opening usually is best place to bat provided pitches are sporting. I haven't seen him struggle badly at all in England and Australia and those were his first tours.

 

It's all about confidence for him and BCCI and selectors need to have some talk about what they want with him.  In my view he has to play in 2027 W, can't ignore him without giving him a run.  Having a good ICC tournament will give him a much needed boost and motivation in his career 

 

Edited May 28 by Lone Wolf

[Gollum]

Extreme outlier. I am telling you, even peak Sachin, Lara, Ponting, ABDV, Viv, Kohli, Rohit would have been intimidated in his presence. 

This was his coach few days back, Sanga has 28k international runs btw

 

[vvvslaxman]

6 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Everyone is saying good things about Parag as a leader.  I was hearing him at toss and dude is articulate and meticulous and his thinking is clear..  Shanaka himself is saying he can be a v good leader in the making for India.  Dude is v young like 24.  Jaiswal doesn't seem like a leader and it's fine honestly.  He comes across as a guy who thinks a bit too much about his own performance and batting kinda like SRT which is fine honestly.

 

Kishan is versatile in a sense that he can bat in middle order bash spin and pace alike.  And breaks the right handed dominance in the top six.

 

Rohit is the weakest link and I am giving benefit of the doubt to Kohli here whose fitness is still keeping him going.  His self centred selfish batting is something that works in ODIs at no 3.  

 

Don't disagree with Paragh being a very good communicator. That is one thing i was impressed with. But without him being nepo Jaiswal would have been the leader. If you look at Axar he barely speaks English. KL Rahul does all the geeing up, talk for DC. In terms of seniority Jaiswal should have gotten the job. So there is an inevitable feeling of being left out.

[Gollum]

4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

In SC opening usually is best place to bat provided pitches are sporting. I haven't seen him struggle badly at all in England and Australia and those were his first tours.

 

It's all about confidence for him and BCCI and selectors need to have some talk about what they want with him.  In my view he has to play in 2027 W, can't ignore him without giving him a run.  Having a good ICC tournament will give him a much needed boost and motivation in his career 

 

Selfish Rohit is blocking the way. Bahut politics karega before he is kicked out. Like he did with MI after losing captaincy, or in BGT. 

[vvvslaxman]

5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

In SC opening usually is best place to bat provided pitches are sporting. I haven't seen him struggle badly at all in England and Australia and those were his first tours.

 

It's all about confidence for him and BCCI and selectors need to have some talk about what they want with him.  In my view he has to play in 2027 W, can't ignore him without giving him a run.  Having a good ICC tournament will give him a much needed boost and motivation in his career 

 

Jaiswal was ready for 2023 as well. But Dravid was insistent on playing the "X factor" shunyakumar. 

[Bigg Brother]

This season He is averaging 32 with 150 SR which is good enough with 400+ runs.  Not a bad season at all. He will be mainstay of our ODI team for next 10 years after TM get rid of Rohit-Kohli.. Generational talent of  longer format as well. Nothing has happened to him.

Edited May 28 by Bigg Brother

[Gollum]

Hope he fires in the remaining games and wins RR their 2nd trophy.

 

He faced a lot of criticism in Eng series as well but scored a matchwinning 100 in 5th test, which was the spiciest pitch of that series. 

 

All his past woes will be forgotten if he helps them win the cup.

[Vickydev]

Needs to develop shots outside offstump on back of a length deliveries. His only proper scoring shot on that length is the cut (apart from edges flying over slips). Doesnt play a lot of backfood punches, even then they dont seem to have a lot of power. Teams are just spamming that zone against him and tying him down.

[maniac]

Don’t get the Jaiswal hate, from junior level till date, first time he kinda looked off

color but still played some clutch and match winning knocks lol.

 

Vanshi is an out of syllabus freak talent. Apart from him, Jaiswal I still the real deal.

[tapandrun]

4 hours ago, maniac said:

Don’t get the Jaiswal hate, from junior level till date, first time he kinda looked off

color but still played some clutch and match winning knocks lol.

 

Vanshi is an out of syllabus freak talent. Apart from him, Jaiswal I still the real deal.

 

Do not think there is any hate for Jiswal, most believe that he one of the next big thing in intnl cricket. Its just that ppl are trying to figure it out wht with him this season.

Have posted and question about his approach this season on other thread too.

 

Is he arya/vaibhav/abhishek/allen kind of batter no. 

 

He is a decent t20 batter but he is not special, if abhishek was nt there he would have been Ind opener, the abhishek moment changed Ind t20 cricket.

Ind ckt and ckters used to be a follower on field and that too be atleast 4/5 yrs lagging behind, this is the 1st time Ind crkt and crkters are leading the new trends. And it worked.

 

Jaiswal is a good opener he will get him chance in Odis as soon as rohit retires that the part of the deal, he is 24 yo he is already locked for test squad, he will get the opening slot in odis iin nect 1-2 yrs , have to wait and keep scoring runs, can not have a dip now as there are multiple other options.

 

Thats where gill has been good he waited for his chance though was frustrated too but he kept on scoring runs in ipl. Ind has multiple t20 top order opening options and that is the fact jaiswal should work with, he himslef and viewers should understand the era of all format players may be gone now.

 

If he does not get into Ind t20i side then there is no injustice done to him unless he become a mo batter or start bowling viable leg-spin.

 

All the claims to include him in Odi squad over rohit is based on his exploits in test cricket and what viewer/fans perceives of him as odi batter  his list A sr is 85 with avg of 50. In last 3 yrs rohit has sr of 90+ and ~50 avg.

 

Yes rohit is aging and its not a good idea to take so many old players to Odi-wc but exp. is needed in the odi wc which Jaiswal does not have. he will need to wait till the wc is over, only other challenger to him for odi opener slot is rutu and by a v.v.long distance may be sai that's it.

 

Post claiming that he bogged down because he had a better batters, not sure what that means, if he has a long career this will happen to him to there will be times when he is out of form and some1 else is in their purple patch or some batter who is more suited for certain format condition batting along side him. will he be demoralized by that too ??

 

 

Edited May 28 by tapandrun

[Ultimate_Game]

This is what happens when you don't give players a chance when they're in form and top of their game. They made Jaiswal wait for no reason despite him being the best Indian batter. He has been the best Test batter, was one of the best T20 batter and still dropped to favor useless Gill. And now Jaiswal has additional pressure of competing with Sooryavanshi coz he can see his spot going to him. If they had backed Jaiswal, which he deserved, you wouldn't see an under-confident and struggling Jaiswal.

[cricketfan28]

Sharma followed by a Sharma followed by vaib. Very unlucky cricketer.

[BacktoCricaddict]

On 5/28/2026 at 2:07 AM, Gollum said:

 

 

This is a very harsh take. Jaiswal is an ultra-talented youngster who has enough time and ability to reinvent himself. He has already contributed immensely to Indian test cricket with crucial knocks in his young career. This IPL is a bit of a wake-up call for him. With the pace of the tournament, there is very little anyone can do to adapt on the fly, but there is no reason to think that he is done forever. RR (Dravid), BCCI and the Mumbai set-up will need to give him the support and confidence he needs. 

 

I simply detest negative nannies who like to pi$$ on young, hardworking, talented Indian cricketers. Maybe Dr. Shreeraj needs to hang up his stethoscope (am assuming he is a medical doctor) when he loses his first 5 patients. 

Edited May 29 by BacktoCricaddict