maniac Posted May 29 Posted May 29 (edited) Kinda heartbreaking to see some fans giving up on him. Suryavanshi came out of syllabus and he is an exception to the rule for being the freakiest talent ever to play cricket. However, dejected to see fans giving up on a guy who is a future all format great. He is one of the most mercurial talents we have. Already buddhas are wasting his potential in odi format, now he is sidelined from T20 scheme of things. Gill has a lot of backers and godfathers, Jaiswal unfortunately has none. Even the Mumbai lobby is giving up on him. It is borderline blasphemy to make him into a one format player à la Rahane and Pujara . Even KL Rahul is a regular in 2 formats FFS. Let’s back this super Star, I see future captaincy material in him. That stone cold glaze and attitude in his eyes scares me. He is like a silent assassin. Can play all types of approach and formats and has no real weakness like most other batsmen we have. Also why the fk is Riyan Parag captain over him? Yashasvi needs your support. I am backing him, will you? Edited May 29 by maniac Bigg Brother, BacktoCricaddict, singhvivek141 and 1 other 4
vvvslaxman Posted May 29 Posted May 29 I don't think anyone is giving up on him if i am right. They just feel disappointed he is losing the lime light. Trust me. Lime light is important in Indian cricket. SKY survived purely because of that. BacktoCricaddict and GoldenSun 2
tapandrun Posted May 29 Posted May 29 People are not giving up on Jaiswal, as most fans recognize him as one of India's top cricketing talents. However, we need to stop blaming a poor IPL season on the presence of Vaibhav, making it sound like he is holding Jaiswal back or that Jaiswal underperforms simply because a superior player is in the side. There is also a clear double standard in how we view multi-format players; fans heavily criticized Rohit and Kohli for playing all three formats and wanted them to quit T20Is, yet now it is suddenly acceptable for Jaiswal to play all three. The evaluation yardstick must be identical for everyone. We see similar scrutiny with other players, like KL Rahul and Shubman Gill. Rahul probably should not be in the Test side, but he survives by playing occasional career-saving innings much like Rahane used to do. In ODIs, however, Rahul has taken up wicketkeeping and excelled in the lower-middle order, averaging around 50 with a 90+ strike rate. Meanwhile, Gill faces heavy backlash for non-cricketing reasons but consistently delivers in the IPL, even becoming the highest run-scorer. Despite this, he missed out on World Cup squads twice and was even removed from the vice-captaincy simply because India had better T20 options at the time. Similarly, if there are better T20 batters available right now, it is perfectly fine if Jaiswal does not make the T20I side. For ODIs, he needs to wait his turn just like Gill had to do. The BCCI’s current transition strategy suggests that unless someone is an absolute prodigy, management prefers making new players regulars only when they reach about 25 years old, especially since established stars are now playing well into their late 30s. A statistical comparison with Ruturaj and Padikkal actually shows Jaiswal has a worse average and strike rate, yet no one talks about them. If Jaiswal is not ready to bide his time and consistently perform, he will only make his own path much harder. singhvivek141, BacktoCricaddict and Tillu 3
BacktoCricaddict Posted May 29 Posted May 29 1 hour ago, maniac said: I see future captaincy material in him Captaincy is over-rated. Not every great player needs to become a captain, and it is not some ultimate honor. Just let him be the best batsman he can be. maniac and tapandrun 2
jf1gp_1 Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Not sure what the thread is about. He is our test opener. If rohit is unfit he will open in ODIs. T20 unfortunately there is no spot even for Vaibhav.
IndianRenegade Posted May 30 Posted May 30 17 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: Not sure what the thread is about. He is our test opener. If rohit is unfit he will open in ODIs. T20 unfortunately there is no spot even for Vaibhav. Vaibhav can be backup opener in case Samson or Abhishek are not fit. jf1gp_1 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 30 Posted May 30 28 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: Not sure what the thread is about. He is our test opener. If rohit is unfit he will open in ODIs. T20 unfortunately there is no spot even for Vaibhav. Abhishek can bat at no.3
Ultimate_Game Posted May 30 Posted May 30 4 hours ago, maniac said: Kinda heartbreaking to see some fans giving up on him. Suryavanshi came out of syllabus and he is an exception to the rule for being the freakiest talent ever to play cricket. However, dejected to see fans giving up on a guy who is a future all format great. He is one of the most mercurial talents we have. Already buddhas are wasting his potential in odi format, now he is sidelined from T20 scheme of things. Gill has a lot of backers and godfathers, Jaiswal unfortunately has none. Even the Mumbai lobby is giving up on him. It is borderline blasphemy to make him into a one format player à la Rahane and Pujara . Even KL Rahul is a regular in 2 formats FFS. Let’s back this super Star, I see future captaincy material in him. That stone cold glaze and attitude in his eyes scares me. He is like a silent assassin. Can play all types of approach and formats and has no real weakness like most other batsmen we have. Also why the fk is Riyan Parag captain over him? Yashasvi needs your support. I am backing him, will you? Who's giving up on Jaiswal? He should a starter in Tests and ODIs, and in the squad for T20s though in T20s Abhishek, Sooryavanshi, Samson and Ishan are ahead of him. He can be a backup opener in T20s but in the other two formats, he should start.
jf1gp_1 Posted May 30 Posted May 30 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Abhishek can bat at no.3 Sure but then it's about accommodating Vaibhav
vvvslaxman Posted May 30 Posted May 30 44 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: Sure but then it's about accommodating Vaibhav yes. He is a box office kid. He is giving the Sachin vibe in terms of drawing crowd, viewership. BCCI sure cannot let go of the opportunity. Manucrick 1
Sgattick10 Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Vaibhav and Sanju can open , Abhi at 3 in T20s. Let Jaisu concentratr in tests
Nikhil_cric Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Nobody has given up on him. Should focus on his Test cricket and maybe try to crack the ODI side. Pant had a ridiculous high impact IPL season in either 2017 or 2018 and look at him now in IPL It's a volatile format and Suryavanshi will be overlooked for the next shiny thing a couple of seasons down the line.
Gollum Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Most here support Jaiswal, just like we support Pant. Test cricket mein class will shine, I can see Jaiswal having a monster series in next year's BGT, 500+ with 2-3 big 100s, mark this post. Jaiswal aur Pant donon Indian cricket ke anmol ratan hai. PS: Don't take IPL subforum opinions too seriously, most ICFers are just trolling and having fun there.
Gollum Posted May 30 Posted May 30 In SM, I see many pani puri jibes, which is incredibly classist and disgusting. Anyway it only makes Jaiswal's journey more inspiring. Request our mods here to permaban any poster who throws similar jibes.
Gollum Posted May 30 Posted May 30 If this IPL season forces Jaiswal to tighten his test game, it will work wonders for us. Last 1-2 seasons, he has been throwing away his wicket quite often with T20 shots; for the moment, he should let go of his T20 ambitions. He is still young, he will get his chances later.
Manucrick Posted May 30 Posted May 30 jaiswal will definitely rise again but the main issue is that he is not getting regular chances in international cricket which can easily destroy his confidence rohit seriously needs to go because his presence is not helping the indian team or jaiswal at all singhvivek141 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 30 Posted May 30 A while back i mentioned he should hone his supplementary skills. Trust me Ayush mhatre is not very far behind Vaibhav. And he can bowl pretty good off spin. Won't be surprised if he goes above Jaiswal in the pecking order based on that. So he should try to work on his supplementary skills. His catching cost us two big overseas tests. He made crucial errors. So he has become a one-dimensional player. So he i in a situation where he must deliver with bat. If you look at Gill his catching is 100%. He doesn't drop any. People remember these things. singhvivek141 1
singhvivek141 Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Jaiswal is at that time of the career...where now opponents are aware of his strong and weak areas, and they can easily bind him. Formats like Test and ODi, you can still navigate through...but T20s, given the pace they're being played (and due to Vaibhav, Abhishek, Priyansh)...the expectation is now different, Jaiswal seems to be struggling in that transition in T20s. But I have seen enough of Jaiswal to know that he has a massive ability to become a 50-60 averaging batter in Tests (which is way tougher now). He can be a next gen star in ODIs as well, but he need to not lose his game trying to become someone else. Cricket still rewards those who respect it, Tests are still the pinnacle format. If Jaiswal overcomes his current setbacks and triumph that format, he will always be in contention for the other two.
Gollum Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Sanju was also supposedly done 6 months back. Then came the greatest ever T20 WC campaign by any batter, no one will dare question him now. Trust the youngsters to come good.
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