Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif

[Predator_05]

Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif hahaha, Dick Pound is an obstinate b@stard and he won't tolerate this kind of sh*t. He continues to castigate professionals like Lance Armstrong and some NHL players on the slightest hint of evidence, despite the fact that they have been cleared on numerous occasions. Their cases give the impression of angelic innocence when compared to these p'akis, who have broken every rule in the book. WADA won't let this go easily and hopefully, justice will be served.

[Baadshah]

Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif

(1)1st u have to prove tht he did ball tampering' date=which u cant. Can u some up with something else?(2)Did we ever tamper the pitch? (3)Did we cheat in any way? What did u think when Aktar bowled a beamer to dhoni when he got smacked? (4)Have u seen any other cricketer chuck a cricket ball,which can kill, like tht? U have to remember that players like akram are admired in India more than even in pak, at the same time we also hate aktar more than anyone else...there is a reason for that. Its not blind hate. Look at the players in ur side. Aktar,Afridi,Asif. Cheaters! The worst part abt this is tht most of the pakistanis are happy tht they did not get banned. There is something morally wrong abt tht. U shd also know tht hate today or in the coming weeks will be higher than normal cos Asif and aktar got off on a technicality. We have players like nehra,balaji and sachin till recently who were injured but took the long legal road to rehabilitation while those 2 took the easy way out.Ignorance is not a defense.

(1) Wasn't Dravid fined 50% of his match fee by the match referee? Why was he fined if he didn't ball tamper? (2) Afridi is one individual. It's not like our whole team or history is full of pitch tamperers. If you are going to generalise like that then you have to be prepared that you too are all a bunch of ball tamperers because Dravid once ball tampered. (3) I guess you've forgotten your list of match fixers. You always seem to associate Pakistan with match fixing, yet what about Jadeja, Prabhakar and Azharuddin? (4) Yes i have, twice infact, the same bowler. Brett Lee against Trescothick and against Razzaq. Fast bowlers tend to lose their control in a crazy manner (once in a while) especially when they're trying to bowl as full as possible but you guys wouldn't know about this. Lets talk about your sporting fans who decide to start fires and throwing missiles at opposition players when you're about to lose the game. 1969 against Australia and then that infamous game in the 1996 World Cup against Sri Lanka. As for the PCB, if you ever talk to Pakistan fans or visit Pakistani cricket forums you will realise they are a bigger laughing stock there then they are here.

[Guest dada_rocks]

Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif btw for cheering pakistani thugs.. For Pakistanis who are celebrating this decision, they should first cast a sombre glance at the cases of Meherullah Lassi and Faisal Karim. They are possibly Pakistan's best boxers, among the region's cream as well, and they have just been handed life bans by the Pakistan Boxing Federation for testing positive for use of cannabis. The cases and circumstances differ but seen together, the message Pakistan sports sends out is inconsistent.

[Guest dada_rocks]

Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif

(1)1st u have to prove tht he did ball tampering' date=which u cant. Can u some up with something else?(2)Did we ever tamper the pitch? (3)Did we cheat in any way? What did u think when Aktar bowled a beamer to dhoni when he got smacked? (4)Have u seen any other cricketer chuck a cricket ball,which can kill, like tht? U have to remember that players like akram are admired in India more than even in pak, at the same time we also hate aktar more than anyone else...there is a reason for that. Its not blind hate. Look at the players in ur side. Aktar,Afridi,Asif. Cheaters! The worst part abt this is tht most of the pakistanis are happy tht they did not get banned. There is something morally wrong abt tht. U shd also know tht hate today or in the coming weeks will be higher than normal cos Asif and aktar got off on a technicality. We have players like nehra,balaji and sachin till recently who were injured but took the long legal road to rehabilitation while those 2 took the easy way out.Ignorance is not a defense.

(1) Wasn't Dravid fined 50% of his match fee by the match referee? Why was he fined if he didn't ball tamper? NOpe ball-tampering charge means several match ban ask waqar bhai not match fee fine so you can be sure it was something else (2) Afridi is one individual. It's not like our whole team or history is full of pitch tamperers. If you are going to generalise like that then you have to be prepared that you too are all a bunch of ball tamperers because Dravid once ball tampered. Yup one individual in deliberate act caght on camera.. (3) I guess you've forgotten your list of match fixers. You always seem to associate Pakistan with match fixing, yet what about Jadeja, Prabhakar and Azharuddin? Yes they were as per law banned unlike qayum commission farce which allowed waseem akram and company to play, well drama they did even then just like this latest doping saga (4) Yes i have, twice infact, the same bowler. Brett Lee against Trescothick and against Razzaq. Fast bowlers tend to lose their control in a crazy manner (once in a while) especially when they're trying to bowl as full as possible but you guys wouldn't know about this. They apologize not turn around like druggy chucker tamperer shaoib and go off to their bowling as if they have bowled an unplayable delivery.. Lets talk about your sporting fans who decide to start fires and throwing missiles at opposition players when you're about to lose the game. 1969 against Australia and then that infamous game in the 1996 World Cup against Sri Lanka. .. Yeah have u forgotten srikant manhandling episode pakstan stuttering at 20 for 3 and match abandoned.. We burn our own stadium not go manhandling opposition players As for the PCB, if you ever talk to Pakistan fans or visit Pakistani cricket forums you will realise they are a bigger laughing stock there then they are here.

Where is that happeneing all i see is.. our druggy got away without fine. high five borat style

[Guest dada_rocks]

Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif Of course, the other lasting message that will resonate around the world is that the whole affair gives off the nasty odour of a PCB sham, from start to finish. People will not delve into details and legal lacunae in the two reports. They will simply see that two key players tested positive for substance abuse, were banned and then reinstated with crucial assignments on the horizon. In any language, that is a sham. Laugh, cry, pull out hair, or applaud? Do it all. In unison. Osman Samiuddin is Pakistan editor of Cric

[Baadshah]

Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif d_r, you talk so much rubbish it's unbelievable. I am not disputing the fact that some Pakistanis have ball tampered but your attitude that Indian's are 'whiter than white' and free of any wrong doing is laughable to say the least - From Cricinfo - Sachin Tendulkar South Africa v India, Port Elizabeth, 2001 Mike Denness, the match referee for the India-South Africa series, found Tendulkar guilty of "acting on the match ball" while bowling on the third day of the second Test at Port Elizabeth. Tendulkar was banned for one Test match and also fined 75% of his match fee. Rahul Dravid India v Zimbabwe, Brisbane, 2004 Rahul Dravid was fined 50% of his match fee, after being caught by the TV cameras rubbing a cough lozenge on the shiny side of the white ball. Match referee Clive Lloyd dismissed suggestions that Dravid "accidentally" tampered with the ball during India's VB Series match against Zimbabwe. What more evidence do you want? As for Afridi pitch tampering, like i have said repeatedly before, if you're going to generalise a whole country or team by the actions of ONE individual then you've got to be prepared that the same will happen to you.

[Guest dada_rocks]

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d_r, you talk so much rubbish it's unbelievable. I am not disputing the fact that some Pakistanis have ball tampered but your attitude that Indian's are 'whiter than white' and free of any wrong doing is laughable to say the least - From Cricinfo - Sachin Tendulkar South Africa v India, Port Elizabeth, 2001 Mike Denness, the match referee for the India-South Africa series, found Tendulkar guilty of "acting on the match ball" while bowling on the third day of the second Test at Port Elizabeth. Tendulkar was banned for one Test match and also fined 75% of his match fee. Rahul Dravid India v Zimbabwe, Brisbane, 2004 Rahul Dravid was fined 50% of his match fee, after being caught by the TV cameras rubbing a cough lozenge on the shiny side of the white ball. Match referee Clive Lloyd dismissed suggestions that Dravid "accidentally" tampered with the ball during India's VB Series match against Zimbabwe. What more evidence do you want? As for Afridi pitch tampering, like i have said repeatedly before, if you're going to generalise a whole country or team by the actions of ONE individual then you've got to be prepared that the same will happen to you.

TEndulkar's case was revoked after looking at the evidence . Tendulkar's only crime was that he momentarily forgot the rule that hehas to inform umpire before taking the grass out of seam. Ditto for dravid had dravid been indulging in some shady dealing just after lozenge got employed he would nto have volunteered the incident and the ball to umpire . Once again ball-tampering charges if upheld means serious ban for several matches not match fee reduction. Let us see why pakistanis ahave this bad name.. From imran khan onwards they keep cpaling they do ball tampering. where is the doubt in this confession. They have been several times cauht on camera. one such footage is here.

They are the only team to have a player who was charged found guilty and banned form playing several matches. Waqar younus. Then there is slew of blatant chucking action cricketers one is still playing with the excuse that I have hyper-extension but the way chucks makes his elbow joint look like socket and ball which it 's not. hyper-extension might mean 360 degree angle in a plane not 360 degree solid angle that;s what he does.. then we have blatant umpires denying lbw after lbw and again yester year cricketers like mushtaq mohd confirmign the same.. then we have pitch dancers.. i am sure had this guy not been caught on camera we wud have seen another round of nautanki droning we are innocent.. Then we have keepr litrally collecting the ball from the ground, heck it was nto even bump ball where cathcer doesn;t really know and might get confused that he caught it. it bumped several inches nfornt of latif and his eyes were glued to he ball all along.. then we have min khan claiming simlar bump ball catch of ganguly in chennai test.. then we have bowlers like chukhtar bumping batsman out of crease and claiming run out.. then we have this latest nautanki None of ths shday practis ein untouched by u lots so hat do u expect people to do kee giving u benefit of doubt

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Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif u guys are wasting time explaining to the pakis tht they should be ashamed of the way asif and aktor cheated and how the pcb topped tht by staging a sham.... trust me, they will not be ashamed.... they will have goat biryani to celebrate a successful drama....

[Guest dada_rocks]

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u guys are wasting time explaining to the pakistanis tht they should be ashamed of the way asif and aktor cheated and how the pcb topped tht by staging a sham.... trust me' date=' they will not be ashamed.... they will have goat biryani to celebrate a successful drama....[/quote'] I know I amjst having fun at their expense hopefully there is more to come . I expect ICC to do sthg and BCCI for once not to butt in. MEanwhile asif the durggy claims they get victimized because they are muslim..

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I expect ICC to do sthg and BCCI for once not to butt in.

now tht will make me the maddest i have ever been from cricket... i clearly dont like, BCCI pulling its weight everytime to drag pakis out of shyte...

[Baadshah]

Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif You guys are ignorant if you think Pakistanis are happy at the way the doping case has been handled. Just read Osman Samiuddin's article on Cricinfo and read the response it has got on PP. This is an Indian forum so you all probably feel very big with all this mutual back patting to further increase your egos. d_r, it's getting very boring wasting my breath on you. You seem to just reword your posts and keep posting the same drivel. Now you are talking about claiming unfair catches :lmao: Yes that is a real Pakistani trait Obviously you missed it when Geraint Jones and Ian Bell done the same.

then we have pitch dancers

Correction we have a pitch dancer. Singular not plural. Please try and get this through your thick skull.

then we have blatant umpires denying lbw after lbw and again yester year cricketers like mushtaq mohd confirmign the same..

:lmao: This one really cracked me up. Indian umpires of the past with the exception of Venkat, were also some of the worst around. Kumble's 10 wicket in an innings saw some of the most atrocious decisions you're likely to see.

From imran khan onwards they keep cpaling they do ball tampering. where is the doubt in this confession.

I have no idea what your first sentence means. Also where have i denied that Pakistanis have ball tampered? This is what i said in my last post -

I am not disputing the fact that some Pakistanis have ball tampered but your attitude that Indian's are 'whiter than white' and free of any wrong doing is laughable to say the least

Also if you listen to most ex-players from all countries they will say that ball tampering goes on all the time but again you will focus on the confessions of a Pakistani.

[kabira]

Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif >This one really cracked me up. Indian umpires of the past with the exception of Venkat, were also some of the worst around. Kumble's 10 wicket in an innings saw some of the most atrocious decisions you're likely to see. Ok dude, lets start here..mention which decisions were not right..and we will analyse them..post videos..

[Baadshah]

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d_r, you talk so much rubbish it's unbelievable. I am not disputing the fact that some Pakistanis have ball tampered but your attitude that Indian's are 'whiter than white' and free of any wrong doing is laughable to say the least - From Cricinfo - Sachin Tendulkar South Africa v India, Port Elizabeth, 2001 Mike Denness, the match referee for the India-South Africa series, found Tendulkar guilty of "acting on the match ball" while bowling on the third day of the second Test at Port Elizabeth. Tendulkar was banned for one Test match and also fined 75% of his match fee. Rahul Dravid India v Zimbabwe, Brisbane, 2004 Rahul Dravid was fined 50% of his match fee, after being caught by the TV cameras rubbing a cough lozenge on the shiny side of the white ball. Match referee Clive Lloyd dismissed suggestions that Dravid "accidentally" tampered with the ball during India's VB Series match against Zimbabwe. What more evidence do you want? As for Afridi pitch tampering, like i have said repeatedly before, if you're going to generalise a whole country or team by the actions of ONE individual then you've got to be prepared that the same will happen to you.

TEndulkar's case was revoked after looking at the evidence . Tendulkar's only crime was that he momentarily forgot the rule that hehas to inform umpire before taking the grass out of seam. Ditto for dravid had dravid been indulging in some shady dealing just after lozenge got employed he would nto have volunteered the incident and the ball to umpire . Once again ball-tampering charges if upheld means serious ban for several matches not match fee reduction. Let us see why pakistanis ahave this bad name.. From imran khan onwards they keep cpaling they do ball tampering. where is the doubt in this confession. They have been several times cauht on camera. one such footage is here.

They are the only team to have a player who was charged found guilty and banned form playing several matches. Waqar younus. Then there is slew of blatant chucking action cricketers one is still playing with the excuse that I have hyper-extension but the way chucks makes his elbow joint look like socket and ball which it 's not. hyper-extension might mean 360 degree angle in a plane not 360 degree solid angle that;s what he does.. then we have blatant umpires denying lbw after lbw and again yester year cricketers like mushtaq mohd confirmign the same.. then we have pitch dancers.. i am sure had this guy not been caught on camera we wud have seen another round of nautanki droning we are innocent.. Then we have keepr litrally collecting the ball from the ground, heck it was nto even bump ball where cathcer doesn;t really know and might get confused that he caught it. it bumped several inches nfornt of latif and his eyes were glued to he ball all along.. then we have min khan claiming simlar bump ball catch of ganguly in chennai test.. then we have bowlers like chukhtar bumping batsman out of crease and claiming run out.. then we have this latest nautanki None of ths shday practis ein untouched by u lots so hat do u expect people to do kee giving u benefit of doubt

:lmao: :lmao: He's been cleared by Experts, Professors, Biomechanic yet because you say it, he's a chucker! In that Case Bhajji is a chucker too and so is RP Singh.

[beetle]

Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif >>You guys are ignorant if you think Pakistanis are happy at the way the doping case has been handled. Just read Osman Samiuddin's article on Cricinfo and read the response it has got on PP. Go to any pakistani forum and check out the "wish the two actor and asif good wishes" threads....that will show you how proud they are of their druggies.... and dravid don't ever compare......

[Baadshah]

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>>You guys are ignorant if you think Pakistanis are happy at the way the doping case has been handled. Just read Osman Samiuddin's article on Cricinfo and read the response it has got on PP. Go to any pakistani forum and check out the "wish the two actor and asif good wishes" threads....that will show you how proud they are of their druggies.... and dravid don't ever compare......

What do you expect, Pakistan fans to get angry and depressed, burn a few shops and cars, because our two best bowlers are 'free to play' again? That would be highly hypocritical as no doubt you lot would also be overjoyed if say for example Dhoni and Kumble had some ban over turned. Just because we're happy that the pair are back doesn't mean that we're happy with the way the PCB has handled the situation.

[kabira]

Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif Badshah, Did they take drugs??

[MundaPakistani]

Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif Baadshah man by merely answering to people like Dada Rocks and Predator you have started to ruin your relationship with others on the forum...it is very apparent that Dada Rocks in particular hates anyone with a green passport so the best way to deal with people like these is by simply pressing the 'ignore' button!

[kabira]

Re: Ban Revoked for Dopey Shoby and Asif Badshah is not responding to my queries I asked him what decision of Kumble's 10fer were not fair.. I also asked him if Asif and Shoaib did take drugs.

[Baadshah]

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Badshah, Did they take drugs??

No they didn't but maybe in the future someone will and then you'll realise how difficult a situation it is when your own players are involved. I know it's hypocritical, but Pakistani fans including myself probably hoped that Warne would get some huge ban when he tested positive so i don't blame you guys on this issue. My concern is with d_r and his continual generalising.