Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[rkt.india]

20 hours ago, Jay said:

Not sure why they dint pick Andy. He can control and offer support. 

He is injured

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

Great post. Agree fully with test team, although Sundar could eventually make a push higher up the order.

 

As for ODIs, I feel Samad and eventually Tilak Varma should be in the mix for No. 6 or No. 7 if they work on bowling. To be frank, I do not feel that either Jaddu or Axar are suited at 7. for jaddu, he cannot score at a high enough SR and Axar in LOIs is better suited for No. 8. Similarly, our pacers at 8 are all trundlers who are not proven high SR players with the bat. need to groom likes of nalkande. Mavi/Nagarkoti are another option but only if they get back to consistent bowling form (with pace) and also improve batting.

 

 

I will be very happy if Washington is chosen for No.5.  But as there is little chance of it actually happening as of today, because of the conservative TM, I hope he can sneak in at 7

 

What I have outlined is the need of the team to maintain an effective team composition. We can obviously improve the players available for those slots, if possible.

 

Like, at No 8, if we can get a tall swing bowler bowling 132 k to 142 k and bat at a great SR ... it would be wonderful.

 

P.S ... I think the team composition issue warrants a thread by itself.

 

I will open a new thread and we can discuss the available options in detail.

Edited December 11, 2021 by express bowling

[Dery]

Everybody expect Starc & Wood bowled slow imo

[putrevus]

On 12/10/2021 at 1:05 AM, New guy said:

In an interview today, Shashtri says he and bharat arun were behind the push for fast bowling. 

 

https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/cricket/news/an-attempt-was-made-to-ensure-i-dont-get-the-job-ravi-shastri/articleshow/88197446.cms

 

 

Hope the new coach and captain doesnt stop the focus on fast bowling just because they focus on other issues like middle order and out of form batsmen.

 

Fast bowling should still be priority no 1

But to many of geniuses here Shastri was just a muppet aand yes man for Kohli .

Edited December 11, 2021 by putrevus

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

But to many of geniuses here Shastri was just a muppet for Kohli .

 

and Shastri himself taking credit for fast bowling changes it.

 

He also said he had no say in Rayudu decision in WC 2019 while being coach.

 

Apparently he only had a say in things which eventually turned out good

[express bowling]

Why are Umran Malik and Prasidh Krishna not playing VHT ?

 

Are there any injuries or niggles ?

[rkt.india]

3 hours ago, express bowling said:

Why are Umran Malik and Prasidh Krishna not playing VHT ?

 

Are there any injuries or niggles ?

You forgot, Umran was in SA. Prasidh is probably injured. No player who was in SA has yet played in VHT 

[express bowling]

England's bowling is so ineffective and boring to watch outside England and NZ (  if Archer and Wood are absent ... and they rarely, if ever, play together )

 

4 or 5 medium pacers just putting the ball there without pace and without adequate movement.

 

Conceding close to 500, in a pink ball test, is very poor bowling indeed.

 

 

 

 

[express bowling]

Jhye Richardson looked impressive.

 

He is a skiddy pacer and was moving the ball at 136 k to 140 k in his first spell.

 

Bowling a fuller length and bowling in good areas generally.

[Suhaan]

25 minutes ago, express bowling said:

England's bowling is so ineffective and boring to watch outside England and NZ (  if Archer and Wood are absent ... and they rarely, if ever, play together )

 

4 or 5 medium pacers just putting the ball there without pace and without adequate movement.

 

Conceding close to 500, in a pink ball test, is very poor bowling indeed.

 

 

 

 

This is what happens when you overload the side with trundlers without sparing a thought over conditions you are playing in,maybe England had no choice but something to learn for the jokers in Indian selection committee

Remember the name must remember this

[Suhaan]

On 12/11/2021 at 9:19 PM, Lord said:

 

and Shastri himself taking credit for fast bowling changes it.

 

He also said he had no say in Rayudu decision in WC 2019 while being coach.

 

Apparently he only had a say in things which eventually turned out good

Peculiar kind of bevda,while bevdas are known to speak only truth

[Jay]

27 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Jhye Richardson looked impressive.

 

He is a skiddy pacer and was moving the ball at 136 k to 140 k in his first spell.

 

Bowling a fuller length and bowling in good areas generally.

he reminds me of a mix between bumrah and shami. terrific bowler. he is 5'10. 5'10 - 6 foot seems to be the perfect height for being fast, aggressive and still maintain adequate bounce. Really tall guys struggle on non bouncy wickets. as in 6'2 plus. but this range between 5'10 - 6 foot seem special for fast bowling. marshall, steyn, bumrah, bond. jhye now, ryan harris, haris rauf for the lols, larwood, frank tyson, lockie ferguson if he actually is fit, shoaib akthar, shami, waqar although overrated, denis lillee, mark wood although he is mediocre, malinga in the past, mohammed siraj now.....

 

list goes on, 

[msb1991]

7 hours ago, express bowling said:

Jhye Richardson looked impressive.

 

He is a skiddy pacer and was moving the ball at 136 k to 140 k in his first spell.

 

Bowling a fuller length and bowling in good areas generally.

And nice swing.

[express bowling]

9 hours ago, msb1991 said:

And nice swing.

 

 

I said " moving the ball " as he has got both seam movement and some swing. 

[Vijy]

16 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

I said " moving the ball " as he has got both seam movement and some swing. 

he is a very impressive backup to have. neser is decent too, albeit not in same class.

[express bowling]

Prasidh Krishna 1 for 17 from 8 overs ... as Karnataka dismiss Rajasthan for 200.

 

Good to see him bowling economically in 50 over cricket.

[Vijy]

14 hours ago, express bowling said:

Prasidh Krishna 1 for 17 from 8 overs ... as Karnataka dismiss Rajasthan for 200.

 

Good to see him bowling economically in 50 over cricket.

yes, if he adds a bit of control without compromising on pace and bounce, then he will make an even stronger push for tests. of course, he should have already been playing by now

[Mosher]

Dayal looks good. Clocked 137+ on these speed guns without looking like he was putting much effort. Bowled a few short balls at 140 and beat the batsman for pace. Skillful too. Got the ball to shape back in to the right hander and also moved it away. Skiddy pace and got decent bounce.

Edited December 21, 2021 by Mosher

[Vijy]

34 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Dayal looks good. Clocked 137+ on these speed guns without looking like he was putting much effort. Bowled a few short balls at 140 and beat the batsman for pace. Skillful too. Got the ball to shape back in to the right hander and also moved it away. Skiddy pace and got decent bounce.

yep, has looked good. and though Mavi is not at his best pace-wise, I think he is slowing on an upward trajectory. demonstrated decent (albeit not high) pace and good control.

[express bowling]

12 hours ago, Vijy said:

yep, has looked good. and though Mavi is not at his best pace-wise, I think he is slowing on an upward trajectory. demonstrated decent (albeit not high) pace and good control.

 

What was Mavi's pace ?