express bowling Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Mesky99 said: Saini, shami, bumrah all played together in the aus odi's, injuries and workload allowed both shardul and natarajan to play in the final odi and then the t20s. Playing like to like bowlers chahar, bhuvi and shardul together is the issue, there is not much planning when it comes to selection and playing seamers in the wrong format is another issue, as long as Siraj, prasidh and saini get to play test cricket together soon with ishant being phased out I would be happy. Odi's only one from bhuvi and chahar should play with bumrah and Siraj, backup prasidh, shardul for his batting exploits and hopefully saini to. IMO we should stick to these Team Compositions. Tests outside Asia .... 6. Pant / Kishan ... batsman keeper with hitting ability 7. Jadeja / Ashwin / Washington ... spinner all-rounder 8. Shardul ... bowling all-rounder cum swing bowler 9. Bumrah ... quick bowler 10. Prasidh / Saini ... tall quick bowler 11. Siraj / Shami ... quick bowler who can move the ball LOIs .... 6. Hardik / Venkatesh ... big hitting batting allrounder 7. Jadeja / Axar ... spinner all-rounder with hitting ability 8. Harshal / D.Chahar / Bhuvi ... bowling all-rounder cum slower ball specialist 9. Ashwin / Bishnoi ... spinner 10. Bumrah ... Quick bowler cum death over specialist 11. Siraj / Prasidh ... Quick bowler cum new ball specialist ** The Quick bowlers should have the ability to hit top speeds of 145 k+. ** The pace bowling all-rounder at 8 should be a swing bowler too. Edited December 11, 2021 by express bowling Vijy, Lord, Mosher and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 9 hours ago, express bowling said: IMO we should stick to these Team Compositions. Tests outside Asia .... 6. Pant / Kishan ... batsman keeper with hitting ability 7. Jadeja / Ashwin / Washington ... spinner all-rounder 8. Shardul ... bowling all-rounder cum swing bowler 9. Bumrah ... quick bowler 10. Prasidh / Saini ... tall quick bowler 11. Siraj / Shami ... quick bowler who can move the ball LOIs .... 6. Hardik / Venkatesh ... big hitting batting allrounder 7. Jadeja / Axar ... spinner all-rounder with hitting ability 8. Harshal / D.Chahar / Bhuvi ... bowling all-rounder cum slower ball specialist 9. Ashwin / Chahal ... spinner 10. Bumrah ... Quick bowler cum death over specialist 11. Siraj / Prasidh ... Quick bowler cum new ball specialist ** The Quick bowlers should have the ability to hit top speeds of 145 k+. ** The pace bowling all-rounder at 8 should be a swing bowler too. Great post. Agree fully with test team, although Sundar could eventually make a push higher up the order. As for ODIs, I feel Samad and eventually Tilak Varma should be in the mix for No. 6 or No. 7 if they work on bowling. To be frank, I do not feel that either Jaddu or Axar are suited at 7. for jaddu, he cannot score at a high enough SR and Axar in LOIs is better suited for No. 8. Similarly, our pacers at 8 are all trundlers who are not proven high SR players with the bat. need to groom likes of nalkande. Mavi/Nagarkoti are another option but only if they get back to consistent bowling form (with pace) and also improve batting. express bowling 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 20 hours ago, Jay said: Not sure why they dint pick Andy. He can control and offer support. He is injured Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 11, 2021 Author Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vijy said: Great post. Agree fully with test team, although Sundar could eventually make a push higher up the order. As for ODIs, I feel Samad and eventually Tilak Varma should be in the mix for No. 6 or No. 7 if they work on bowling. To be frank, I do not feel that either Jaddu or Axar are suited at 7. for jaddu, he cannot score at a high enough SR and Axar in LOIs is better suited for No. 8. Similarly, our pacers at 8 are all trundlers who are not proven high SR players with the bat. need to groom likes of nalkande. Mavi/Nagarkoti are another option but only if they get back to consistent bowling form (with pace) and also improve batting. I will be very happy if Washington is chosen for No.5. But as there is little chance of it actually happening as of today, because of the conservative TM, I hope he can sneak in at 7 What I have outlined is the need of the team to maintain an effective team composition. We can obviously improve the players available for those slots, if possible. Like, at No 8, if we can get a tall swing bowler bowling 132 k to 142 k and bat at a great SR ... it would be wonderful. P.S ... I think the team composition issue warrants a thread by itself. I will open a new thread and we can discuss the available options in detail. Edited December 11, 2021 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment
Dery Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Everybody expect Starc & Wood bowled slow imo Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) On 12/10/2021 at 1:05 AM, New guy said: In an interview today, Shashtri says he and bharat arun were behind the push for fast bowling. https://m.timesofindia.com/sports/cricket/news/an-attempt-was-made-to-ensure-i-dont-get-the-job-ravi-shastri/articleshow/88197446.cms Hope the new coach and captain doesnt stop the focus on fast bowling just because they focus on other issues like middle order and out of form batsmen. Fast bowling should still be priority no 1 But to many of geniuses here Shastri was just a muppet aand yes man for Kohli . Edited December 11, 2021 by putrevus New guy 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, putrevus said: But to many of geniuses here Shastri was just a muppet for Kohli . and Shastri himself taking credit for fast bowling changes it. He also said he had no say in Rayudu decision in WC 2019 while being coach. Apparently he only had a say in things which eventually turned out good rollingstoned, express bowling, raki05 and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 Why are Umran Malik and Prasidh Krishna not playing VHT ? Are there any injuries or niggles ? Mosher, New guy and Suhaan 3 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 hours ago, express bowling said: Why are Umran Malik and Prasidh Krishna not playing VHT ? Are there any injuries or niggles ? You forgot, Umran was in SA. Prasidh is probably injured. No player who was in SA has yet played in VHT Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 England's bowling is so ineffective and boring to watch outside England and NZ ( if Archer and Wood are absent ... and they rarely, if ever, play together ) 4 or 5 medium pacers just putting the ball there without pace and without adequate movement. Conceding close to 500, in a pink ball test, is very poor bowling indeed. Mosher, raki05, Sgattick10 and 2 others 5 Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 Jhye Richardson looked impressive. He is a skiddy pacer and was moving the ball at 136 k to 140 k in his first spell. Bowling a fuller length and bowling in good areas generally. Lord, Suhaan, raki05 and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, express bowling said: England's bowling is so ineffective and boring to watch outside England and NZ ( if Archer and Wood are absent ... and they rarely, if ever, play together ) 4 or 5 medium pacers just putting the ball there without pace and without adequate movement. Conceding close to 500, in a pink ball test, is very poor bowling indeed. This is what happens when you overload the side with trundlers without sparing a thought over conditions you are playing in,maybe England had no choice but something to learn for the jokers in Indian selection committee Remember the name must remember this express bowling, raki05 and Mosher 3 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 9:19 PM, Lord said: and Shastri himself taking credit for fast bowling changes it. He also said he had no say in Rayudu decision in WC 2019 while being coach. Apparently he only had a say in things which eventually turned out good Peculiar kind of bevda,while bevdas are known to speak only truth express bowling 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, express bowling said: Jhye Richardson looked impressive. He is a skiddy pacer and was moving the ball at 136 k to 140 k in his first spell. Bowling a fuller length and bowling in good areas generally. he reminds me of a mix between bumrah and shami. terrific bowler. he is 5'10. 5'10 - 6 foot seems to be the perfect height for being fast, aggressive and still maintain adequate bounce. Really tall guys struggle on non bouncy wickets. as in 6'2 plus. but this range between 5'10 - 6 foot seem special for fast bowling. marshall, steyn, bumrah, bond. jhye now, ryan harris, haris rauf for the lols, larwood, frank tyson, lockie ferguson if he actually is fit, shoaib akthar, shami, waqar although overrated, denis lillee, mark wood although he is mediocre, malinga in the past, mohammed siraj now..... list goes on, Link to comment
msb1991 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 7 hours ago, express bowling said: Jhye Richardson looked impressive. He is a skiddy pacer and was moving the ball at 136 k to 140 k in his first spell. Bowling a fuller length and bowling in good areas generally. And nice swing. Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 18, 2021 Author Share Posted December 18, 2021 9 hours ago, msb1991 said: And nice swing. I said " moving the ball " as he has got both seam movement and some swing. raki05, Vijy and Mosher 3 Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 16 hours ago, express bowling said: I said " moving the ball " as he has got both seam movement and some swing. he is a very impressive backup to have. neser is decent too, albeit not in same class. SRT100, Mosher, express bowling and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 Prasidh Krishna 1 for 17 from 8 overs ... as Karnataka dismiss Rajasthan for 200. Good to see him bowling economically in 50 over cricket. Vijy, Mosher, New guy and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 14 hours ago, express bowling said: Prasidh Krishna 1 for 17 from 8 overs ... as Karnataka dismiss Rajasthan for 200. Good to see him bowling economically in 50 over cricket. yes, if he adds a bit of control without compromising on pace and bounce, then he will make an even stronger push for tests. of course, he should have already been playing by now express bowling and Suhaan 2 Link to comment
Mosher Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) Dayal looks good. Clocked 137+ on these speed guns without looking like he was putting much effort. Bowled a few short balls at 140 and beat the batsman for pace. Skillful too. Got the ball to shape back in to the right hander and also moved it away. Skiddy pace and got decent bounce. Edited December 21, 2021 by Mosher Suhaan and express bowling 2 Link to comment
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