Jay Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, ABDfan said: you said that saini averaged 145 kph Yes in ranji for a few games. Saini was literally known for pace. He clocked 150 plus several times in ipl too back in 2018 Link to comment
ABDfan Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Jay said: Yes in ranji for a few games. Saini was literally known for pace. He clocked 150 plus several times in ipl too back in 2018 Correction IPL 2019 Jay 1 Link to comment
ABDfan Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 13 hours ago, the don said: Wowzers 152 kph from haris rauf. That was a hattrick ball too. The fastest in the world along with Wood and Nortje as he showed in ghe world cup. Fastest Bowler in Asia Since Wahab Riaz Link to comment
ABDfan Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 @Jay who do you think is fastest bowler in the world right now? Link to comment
Jay Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 46 minutes ago, ABDfan said: Fastest Bowler in Asia Since Wahab Riaz Yes. He is. I want to see blood though. More intimidation. There will never be another shoaib I feel from Pakistan ever again. The new ones seem a bit softer. Shoaib was one of a kind. I will always have shoaib in the conversation for top 10 bowlers of all time. Link to comment
Jay Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ABDfan said: @Jay who do you think is fastest bowler in the world right now? Which format brah. On average. I am going based of averages ok. T20s ? Probably rauf or wood or nortje no? Although post injury I feel nortje speed will be lower. Mark my words. Odi? Starcy I suppose. Nortje and perhaps lockie? Or wood Tests? Starc again on average. He is 143 and wood. Rauf In odi? What's his speeds. Would be 140 plus I imagine on average. Edited January 31, 2022 by Jay Link to comment
ABDfan Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Jay said: Yes. He is. I want to see blood though. More intimidation. There will never be another shoaib I feel from Pakistan ever again. The new ones seem a bit softer. Shoaib was one of a kind. I will always have shoaib in the conversation for top 10 bowlers of all time. Let alone Shoaib I don't think there will be a 100Mph bowler again Link to comment
ABDfan Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Jay said: Which format brah. On average. I am going based of averages ok. T20s ? Probably rauf or wood or nortje no? Although post injury I feel nortje speed will be lower. Mark my words. Odi? Starcy I suppose. Nortje and perhaps lockie? Or wood Tests? Starc again on average. He is 143 and wood. Across all formats. And what do yo you think Who is fastest bowler in India right now? Link to comment
Jay Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, ABDfan said: Let alone Shoaib I don't think there will be a 100Mph bowler again Absolutely. Modern ones are too professional and very mechanical. Shoaib brought that intimidation factor. Jaan marna Walla fast bowler. I will never forget shoaib. One of my favourite bowlers of all time. Except when he starts talking jeez. Modern ones that are intimidating when on song are probably Cummins bumrah and rabada. When these 2 decide to crank it up and hurl bouncers they are absolutely brutal. But still shoaib was way more entertaining and faster. Less accurate but way faster. ABDfan 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, ABDfan said: Across all formats. And what do yo you think Who is fastest bowler in India right now? All formats? Tough one. Possibly wood or starc I suppose. Going with wood. Lock that in computer ji. In India? Well until 2020 it was bumrah who was bowling 139-140 on average. Now it's umran in t20. In odi and tests it probably saini if he is fully fit as seen in s.a A tours. Otherwise probably bumrah. Bumrah is around 137-138 on average for tests. ABDfan 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 58 minutes ago, ABDfan said: Let alone Shoaib I don't think there will be a 100Mph bowler again Umran Malik has the potential Suhaan and ABDfan 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 57 minutes ago, ABDfan said: Across all formats. And what do yo you think Who is fastest bowler in India right now? Umran Malik is fastest in Asia atm. ABDfan 1 Link to comment
Mesky99 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, ABDfan said: Iike saini, Tyagi, Nagarkoti.....? Tyagi and nagarkoti haven't yet made their debuts but I do remember tyagi thrashing Pak u19 a few years back. Forward Defence, ABDfan and express bowling 1 2 Link to comment
Mesky99 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, ABDfan said: Lol averaging 145 kph is different þhan bowling some deliveries around that mark.I remember the test where he was trundling He was injured then but was still hitting 137kph. ABDfan 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) I am one of the biggest bowling speed enthusiasts on this site.I just love quick bowling, especially from Indian Fast Bowlers. But this thread is getting derailed in the last 5 pages or so. Pace bowling in cricket is NOT a speed gun contest !! The purpose of high bowling speeds are --- 1) Hurrying batsmen consistently 2) Bowling hostile short balls from time to time. .... Resulting in taking wickets and winning matches. If a bowler is able to do them ... using a mixture of 1) High release speeds 2) Zip off the deck 3) Steep bounce 4) Late movement 5) Sufficient accuracy to utilize the above four aspects effectively ... that is what matters. The reasons why I track speeds closely are 1) Whether a pacer has SUFFICIENT speed needed for international cricket. 2) Speed readings tell us whether a pacer is bowling at HIS OPTIMUM speeds. 3) If that's not the case then the pacer maybe .... Lacking rhythm .... Having some niggle or injury .... Lacking match fitness or getting too old .... Having issues with ball release I want to gauge these aspects. 4) It is a fun to track speeds for fast bowling enthusiasts. Saini has clocked higher speeds than Bumrah and Wahab has clocked higher speeds than Shaheen. But no sane Indian speed enthusiast would want Saini in place of Bumrah. And no sane Pakistani speed enthusiast would want Wahab in place of Shaheen. Yes ... we will all be very happy when one of our countrymen clocks 150 kph + But, from a cricket point of view, having sufficient speed to hurry batsmen regularly and bowl hostile short balls from time to time, is good enough. @Mosher, @Suhaan, @Vijy, @sarchasm, @rollingstoned, @SRT100 this thread has discussed Pace bowling and bowling speeds with passion and objectivity for the last 8 years. Suddenly, a handful of new Padosi posters are derailing this thread. If the Pakistani pacers are quick, let them be. Maybe, I should change the name of this thread to include Indian pacers to stop this derailment. Let them open a separate thread to bicker about Pakistani pacers. Edited January 31, 2022 by express bowling Forward Defence, vishalvirsingh, Suhaan and 6 others 4 1 4 Link to comment
Jay Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 27 minutes ago, express bowling said: I am one of the biggest bowling speed enthusiasts on this site.I just love quick bowling, especially from Indian Fast Bowlers. But this thread is getting derailed in the last 5 pages or so. Pace bowling in cricket is NOT a speed gun contest !! The purpose of high bowling speeds are --- 1) Hurrying batsmen consistently 2) Bowling hostile short balls from time to time. .... Resulting in taking wickets and winning matches. If a bowler is able to do them ... using a mixture of 1) High release speeds 2) Zip off the deck 3) Steep bounce 4) Late movement 5) Sufficient accuracy to utilize the above four aspects effectively ... that is what matters. The reasons why I track speeds closely are 1) Whether a pacer has SUFFICIENT speed needed for international cricket. 2) Speed readings tell us whether a pacer is bowling at HIS OPTIMUM speeds. 3) If that's not the case then the pacer maybe .... Lacking rhythm .... Having some niggle or injury .... Lacking match fitness or getting too old .... Having issues with ball release I want to gauge these aspects. 4) It is a fun to track speeds for fast bowling enthusiasts. Saini has clocked higher speeds than Bumrah and Wahab has clocked higher speeds than Shaheen. But no sane Indian speed enthusiast would want Saini in place of Bumrah. And no sane Pakistani speed enthusiast would want Wahab in place of Shaheen. Yes ... we will all be very happy when one of our countrymen clocks 150 kph + But, from a cricket point of view, having sufficient speed to hurry batsmen regularly and bowl hostile short balls from time to time, is good enough. @Mosher, @Suhaan, @Vijy, @sarchasm, @rollingstoned, @SRT100 this thread has discussed Pace bowling and bowling speeds with passion and objectivity for the last 8 years. Suddenly, a handful of new Padosi posters are derailing this thread. If the Pakistani pacers are quick, let them be. Maybe, I should change the name of this thread to include Indian pacers to stop this derailment. Let them open a separate thread to bicker about Pakistani pacers. I have watched rauf bowl live. Shaheen and husnain. None have the ability to hurry batsmen. None. None of them have a brutal bouncer. Can't bowl short ball barrages for spells. Shaheen is the best of their lot. He is a stud but he doesn't not have a killer bouncer. Maybe one here and there. He is not a bounce based player. He is more of a yorker guy. He will struggle in australia, England and possibly n.z. He will do ok in s Africa where there is help in seam friendly conditions. I rate him very highly but he lacks the ability to intimidate batsmen and can't operate with the old ball Watch his performances at death in odi. He struggles quite often as witness by thrashings vs wade. He will struggle as soon as new ball wears off. He is a philander level talent. Top tier in certain conditions but struggles on flatties. ABDfan 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Jay said: He is a philander level talent. Top tier in certain conditions but struggles on flatties. He's terrific new ball bowler,best right now express bowling 1 Link to comment
ABDfan Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: Umran Malik is fastest in Asia atm. Not yet Rauf bowled153.1 to be precise while Umran 152.9x the don 1 Link to comment
ABDfan Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, express bowling said: I am one of the biggest bowling speed enthusiasts on this site.I just love quick bowling, especially from Indian Fast Bowlers. But this thread is getting derailed in the last 5 pages or so. Pace bowling in cricket is NOT a speed gun contest !! The purpose of high bowling speeds are --- 1) Hurrying batsmen consistently 2) Bowling hostile short balls from time to time. .... Resulting in taking wickets and winning matches. If a bowler is able to do them ... using a mixture of 1) High release speeds 2) Zip off the deck 3) Steep bounce 4) Late movement 5) Sufficient accuracy to utilize the above four aspects effectively ... that is what matters. The reasons why I track speeds closely are 1) Whether a pacer has SUFFICIENT speed needed for international cricket. 2) Speed readings tell us whether a pacer is bowling at HIS OPTIMUM speeds. 3) If that's not the case then the pacer maybe .... Lacking rhythm .... Having some niggle or injury .... Lacking match fitness or getting too old .... Having issues with ball release I want to gauge these aspects. 4) It is a fun to track speeds for fast bowling enthusiasts. Saini has clocked higher speeds than Bumrah and Wahab has clocked higher speeds than Shaheen. But no sane Indian speed enthusiast would want Saini in place of Bumrah. And no sane Pakistani speed enthusiast would want Wahab in place of Shaheen. Yes ... we will all be very happy when one of our countrymen clocks 150 kph + But, from a cricket point of view, having sufficient speed to hurry batsmen regularly and bowl hostile short balls from time to time, is good enough. @Mosher, @Suhaan, @Vijy, @sarchasm, @rollingstoned, @SRT100 this thread has discussed Pace bowling and bowling speeds with passion and objectivity for the last 8 years. Suddenly, a handful of new Padosi posters are derailing this thread. If the Pakistani pacers are quick, let them be. Maybe, I should change the name of this thread to include Indian pacers to stop this derailment. Let them open a separate thread to bicker about Pakistani pacers. Olivier hurried batters more than any bowler in recent series Link to comment
ABDfan Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Mesky99 said: Tyagi and nagarkoti haven't yet made their debuts but I do remember tyagi thrashing Pak u19 a few years back. Just like zameer destroyed your u19? Link to comment
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