Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Adorable Fan]

5 hours ago, express bowling said:

Indian bowlers gave away 150 runs for 0 wickets in the last 10 overs.

 

Yes, SA bowlers were poor too but our bowlers had the added advantage of their huge total creating massive pressure. 

 

Yet, we almost lost this game after scoring 237. 

 

Our bowling  has become totally dependent on swing and surface grip. And our death bowling is very non-dependable.

 

Not good !

We all along know this issue and its going to be the reason we might get kicked out next month. No total is safe with the current Trundlers. The current bowling unit capable of conceding 260 or more if aggressive team like England, WI hitters, Oz start hitting from start.

 

[Need4Speed]

3 hours ago, Adorable Fan said:

We all along know this issue and its going to be the reason we might get kicked out next month. No total is safe with the current Trundlers. The current bowling unit capable of conceding 260 or more if aggressive team like England, WI hitters, Oz start hitting from start.

 

Add Even NZ to the list

Edited October 3, 2022 by Need4Speed

[rkt.india]

7 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

There is a huge difference between chasing a normal total and chasing 237. 

They had nothing to lose so they went berserk in the last ten overs.

[AKane]

9 hours ago, express bowling said:

Yes, SA bowlers were poor too but our bowlers had the added advantage of their huge total creating massive pressure.

 

I don't think SA have deviated from their bowling plan to use in Australia. They are using the same bowling plan on Indian pitches. It is obviously not working on these pitches but I don't think they care.

 

When none of Rabada, Nortje, Ngidi and Parnell are able to do anything - it means they are all trying the same ineffective stuff. In Aus Parnell will probably be replaced by Jansen. We all know the Perth pitch will not behave as the Guwahati pitch and the Kookaburra will not be like the SG. Balls in the hitting arc here will be quicker/bouncier off the deck and not in the hitting arc there.

Edited October 3, 2022 by AKane

[Need4Speed]

Kuldip Sen gets Pujara again with extra bounce..

also gets Chirag Jani with quick inswing..

 

*courtesy cricbuzz

Edited October 3, 2022 by Need4Speed

[Mosher]

15 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

Kuldip Sen gets Pujara again with extras bounce

That was a great ball. Pitched in the channel and a bit of away seam movement and extra bounce. Pujara had to play it. Sen's 1st wicket was good to watch too. Full and fast inswinger cleaning up the batsman. Sen has been very good in this spell today. Pace, bounce and moving the ball both ways. 

Edited October 3, 2022 by Mosher

[Mosher]

3rd wicket for Sen

[tweaker]

Three wickets for Sen

[speed_thrills]

10 hours ago, express bowling said:

Indian bowlers gave away 150 runs for 0 wickets in the last 10 overs.

 

Yes, SA bowlers were poor too but our bowlers had the added advantage of their huge total creating massive pressure. 

 

Yet, we almost lost this game after scoring 237. 

 

Our bowling  has become totally dependent on swing and surface grip. And our death bowling is very non-dependable.

 

Not good !

No peak is daunting enough for our trundler brigade, at this rate it's likely that they will be first T20 unit to concede 300 runs.

[singhvivek141]

38 minutes ago, Mosher said:

That was a great ball. Pitched in the channel and a bit of away seam movement and extra bounce. Pujara had to play it. Sen's 1st wicket was good to watch too. Full and fast inswinger cleaning up the batsman. Sen has been very good in this spell today. Pace, bounce and moving the ball both ways. 

Bhai these all news are great to hear, we definitely need a tall pacer in red ball to replace Ishant, advantage is he is a good with white ball as well.
Any idea about speeds, hopefully he sticks to 137-143 range which is like 140-147 in Internationals.

[raki05]

9 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Pressure is no longer longer real thing in chasing . Teams actually prefer chasing. Conditions were good for batting but that 2nd half of 2nd innings war particularly harsh for bowlers. 

 

Our bowling has quite a few flaws but today's pitch won't tell us much. 

Lol we lost Asia Cup and wt20 inspite of scoring respectable total. If one can't realise that Bhuvi, harshal and chahal are mental midget and mediocre bowlers inspite of their regular thrashing not sure what else would required. I am surprised fans still defend them, ican guarantee if chahal and Bhuvi played yesterday in place of Arshdeep and Axar we would have lost the match.

Edited October 3, 2022 by raki05

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

Bhai these all news are great to hear, we definitely need a tall pacer in red ball to replace Ishant, advantage is he is a good with white ball as well.
Any idea about speeds, hopefully he sticks to 137-143 range which is like 140-147 in Internationals.

.

 

 

I think we should try to make tall quicks our default choice .... instead of just one tall quick in place of Ishant.

 

Medium height or Short quicks should be allowed only if they are exceptional like Bumrah, Shami or Umran  

 

 

Edited October 3, 2022 by express bowling

[Mosher]

23 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Any idea about speeds, hopefully he sticks to 137-143 range which is like 140-147 in Internationals.

Speed guns not working today but looked as quick as he was in 1st innings. 

[express bowling]

Kuldeep Sen was exceptional this morning.

 

 

High pace

Steep bounce even from length

Regular and significant inswing

Some away movement from time to time

Bowled in decent areas 

Great rhythm 

 

3 wickets as a result

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

Such a shame Kuldeep isn't in ODI squad &,  probably won't get to play at least till NZ tour (even that's not confirmed with Boobies & Harshal Avesh Shardul to be likely lineup) 

[express bowling]

Umran was poor this morning. Did not try to bowl to a plan. Bowled poor lengths in his first 3 overs. Mostly just back of a length instead of good length or genuine bouncers. 

 

In his next 2 overs he just tried to attack the stumps but pushed the ball down the leg side. 

 

Hardly saw any channel ball. 

 

Bowled 2 good bouncers later on.

 

He must practice bowling channel balls instead of this crap. 

[singhvivek141]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

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I think we should try to make tall quicks our default .... instead of just one tall quick in place of Ishant.

 

Short quicks should be allowed only if they are exceptional like Bumrah, Shami or Umran  

 

 

Agree, only problem is the batting ability is missing amongst tall pacers. Kuldeep, Tyagi, Mohsin, Khaleel, Prasidh all are duds with the bat. Only Rajvardhan is there who is tall, fast and can bat as well.
If we can get him in the system quickly and slot at 8, we can play 3 pacers (or 2 pacers + 1 spinner) at 9-11.
 

[express bowling]

4 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Did you watch

 

4 of his 5 overs.

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said:

Agree, only problem is the batting ability is missing amongst tall pacers. Kuldeep, Tyagi, Mohsin, Khaleel, Prasidh all are duds with the bat. Only Rajvardhan is there who is tall, fast and can bat as well.
If we can get him in the system quickly and slot at 8, we can play 3 pacers (or 2 pacers + 1 spinner) at 9-11.
 

 

Mohsin, Tyagi and Saini are decent batters. 

[express bowling]

Umran was so good in the 1st innings and bowled such lovely channel balls .... I don't know why he changed his plan in the 2nd innings. 

 

If you attack the stumps then it has to be off stump and not leg stump. 

 

Every pacer's game has to be built around the top of off stump ball / channel ball, no matter how quick he is. 

Edited October 3, 2022 by express bowling