the don Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: There are atleast 5 Indian pacers who can bowl entire overs at around 90 mph or more. Here playing. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, the don said: Here playing. If Shami is not picked in the 11 then India will have the slowest " Pace attack " in the tournament. Slower than every associate nation. It's almost like they don't want to give the batsmen any pace to use at all. Frankly speaking, it is better to pick spinners in that case. Edited October 20, 2022 by express bowling Mosher, MK55, raki05 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, the don said: Here playing. Hardik and Shami are there....they're fast. express bowling 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, express bowling said: If Shami is not picked in the 11 then India will have the slowest " Pace attack " in the tournament. Slower than every associate nation. It's almost like they don't want to give the batsmen any pace to use at all. Frankly speaking, it is better to pick spinners in that case. Bhai, Hardik is there...he can go 145k+ with his effort ball. Just hope he don't get injured. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Bhai, Hardik is there...he can go 145k+ with his effort ball. Just hope he don't get injured. Was talking about specialist bowlers. Hardik can bowl 146 k one day and struggle to touch 140 k the next. Is still a part time bowler. raki05, Mosher and Suhaan 3 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Jhandu Balm.. Peerhahari balm for fast bowling fans on ICF Vilander 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 @express bowling @Mosher this looks quite rapid raki05, Mosher, express bowling and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 great yorkers AuxiliA, Lone Wolf, singhvivek141 and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment
Adamant Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: great yorkers Wow, what a talent. The most important youngster for Indian cricket's future. singhvivek141 1 Link to comment
Adamant Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: great yorkers Pace is 90mph here for sure. express bowling 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, Adamant said: Pace is 90mph here for sure. But you said just few days back that there is no talent in India and Bhuvi, harshal and Avesh are the best talent. Vilander, Mosher, express bowling and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment
Adamant Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, raki05 said: But you said just few days back that there is no talent in India and Bhuvi, harshal and Avesh are the best talent. Go and read my posts again please. I have always said that apart from Bumrah, Shami and Siraj there are only three fast bowling talents in India out of whom only one is top tier Top tier Karthik Tyagi Middle Tier Prasidh Umran When all others were harping on about Avesh, Khaleel, Sen and what not, I kept on mentioning only these three names. Chakdephatte and singhvivek141 2 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 52 minutes ago, Adamant said: Go and read my posts again please. I have always said that apart from Bumrah, Shami and Siraj there are only three fast bowling talents in India out of whom only one is top tier Top tier Karthik Tyagi Middle Tier Prasidh Umran When all others were harping on about Avesh, Khaleel, Sen and what not, I kept on mentioning only these three names. Sen isn't bad, defo a middle tier talent...Mohsin is also in mid tier. They both are much better than Avesh.... I don't rate Khaleel much...as a bowler he's ok but his fielding is Munaf's level, and that irks me a lot. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: great yorkers How badly I want him to get coached by Steyn, Bond or Gillespie. Kid is blessed with natural talent, good height and work ethic, just need a good mentor and he will be a star. AuxiliA, Mosher and express bowling 3 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 9 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: How badly I want him to get coached by Steyn, Bond or Gillespie. Kid is blessed with natural talent, good height and work ethic, just need a good mentor and he will be a star. he is already getting coached by steyn in SRH, all he needs now is to play regular cricket . The more he ll play the better he ll get Link to comment
raki05 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Adamant said: Go and read my posts again please. I have always said that apart from Bumrah, Shami and Siraj there are only three fast bowling talents in India out of whom only one is top tier Top tier Karthik Tyagi Middle Tier Prasidh Umran When all others were harping on about Avesh, Khaleel, Sen and what not, I kept on mentioning only these three names. Nope as far as I recall you dint mentioned these names . Discussion itself was why Umran, Tyagi and Sen were not preferred over Harshal, Avesh and Bhuvi, you said coz India have no bowling talent and they are the best we have. singhvivek141, Vilander and express bowling 3 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 32 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: he is already getting coached by steyn in SRH, all he needs now is to play regular cricket . The more he ll play the better he ll get Yeah he is at SRH, I was more talking on National level if BCCI can use these fast bowlers instead of Para Mahambrey. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: , all he needs now is to play regular cricket . The more he ll play the better he ll get Very true. There is no substitute to playing actual matches. That's where players truly learn their craft as well as gain bowling fitness. Marshall played 408 FC matches including tests, Walsh played 429. Garner played 214 FC matches and Ambrose played 239. That's one of reasons why these guys were such wonderful test match bowlers with such low averages. They practiced their craft in other FC matches when they were not playing tests. Our youngsters need to focus on playing as many matches as possible too. I really really strongly want Tyagi, Umran, Sen, Mohsin and Prasidh to play the full Ranjj season this year and the full VHT too. They will become much better bowlers if they do this. They should not miss these tournaments feigning injury or being casual about maintaining their fitness before these tournaments. Bumrah and Shami played 28 and 24 FC matches respectively before Test debut. And they are our best pacers ever. Edited October 21, 2022 by express bowling Adamant, Mosher and singhvivek141 1 2 Link to comment
Adamant Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 36 minutes ago, raki05 said: Nope as far as I recall you dint mentioned these names . Discussion itself was why Umran, Tyagi and Sen were not preferred over Harshal, Avesh and Bhuvi, you said coz India have no bowling talent and they are the best we have. I am more than 100 percent sure that I always rated Karthik as a top tier talent. I said that India have no other better options apart from the ones already selected bcoz Karthik and Umran are not ready yet and Prasidh isn't good at t2ös as of now. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 9 hours ago, express bowling said: Very true. There is no substitute to playing actually matches. That's where players truly learn their craft as well as gain bowling fitness. Marshall played 408 FC matches including tests, Walsh played 429. Garner played 214 FC matches and Ambrose played 239. That's one of reasons why these guys were such wonderful test match bowlers with such low averages. They practiced their craft in other FC matches when they were not playing tests. Our youngsters need to focus on playing as many matches as possible too. I really really strongly want Tyagi, Umran, Sen, Mohsin and Prasidh to play the full Ranjj season this year and the full VHT too. They will become much better bowlers if they do this. They should not miss these tournaments feigning injury or being casual about maintaining their fitness before these tournaments. Bumrah and Shami played 28 and 24 FC matches respectively before Test debut. And they are our best pacers ever. Yup more u play the better the rhythm, better the rhythm higher the pace a bowler will hit .................also thats how they ll improve their skills If they have given Umran-kuldeep India-A without much of FC record means they are in with very good chances. All they gotta do is keep playing n keep improving Link to comment
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