Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Lord]

Prasidh can't be considered in LOIs unless he improves his death bowling skills. 

[Vijy]

Just now, Lord said:

Prasidh can't be considered in LOIs unless he improves his death bowling skills. 

no, he just needs to be used better. he's a ODI bowler more than T20 bowler. use him as follows:

 

overs 10-15: 2 overs

overs 18-26: 4 overs

overs 29:38: 4 overs

[express bowling]

7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

He wasn't injury prone,

 

Shami kept injuring his knees between 2014 and 2016.

[singhvivek141]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

Prasidh can't be considered in LOIs unless he improves his death bowling skills. 

Yes, his death bowling skill is what stopping him as top 2 pacer..he is very useful though as a third pacer coz he can complement Siraj and Bumrah very well.

[Lord]

Just now, Vijy said:

no, he just needs to be used better. he's a ODI bowler more than T20 bowler. use him as follows:

 

overs 10-15: 2 overs

overs 18-26: 4 overs

overs 29:38: 4 overs

That's how we use Pandya or Thakur. Specialist bowler needs to bowl in PP and/or death.

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, Vijy said:

no, he just needs to be used better. he's a ODI bowler more than T20 bowler. use him as follows:

 

overs 10-15: 2 overs

overs 18-26: 4 overs

overs 29:38: 4 overs

 

Prasidh is good with the new ball too. 

[express bowling]

Bumrah 144 k cracking yorker.

 

Boom is back baby  !

Edited August 20, 2023 by express bowling

[Vijy]

Just now, Lord said:

That's how we use Pandya or Thakur. Specialist bowler needs to bowl in PP and/or death.

if pandu plays, use him in death. or perhaps better, thakur. there is a separate thread by @vvslaxman on death bowling. thakur is not bad at death.

 

prasidh will be MO enforcer who gets those crucial MO wickets.

[Vijy]

Just now, express bowling said:

 

Prasidh is good with the new ball too. 

yes, although new ball is covered by siraj, boomer, shami, etc.

[singhvivek141]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

Shami kept injuring his knees between 2014 and 2016.

Yeah, that was because of his very long strides in his runup. I remember he was bowling 128-130 k in Australia in 2014 and was huffing and puffing.

 

Anyway I recall only 2 injuries..one before the SA tour in 2014..and one after 2015 ODI WC when he underwent surgery. Don't recall anything post that.

[singhvivek141]

2 minutes ago, Vijy said:

if pandu plays, use him in death. or perhaps better, thakur. there is a separate thread by @vvslaxman on death bowling. thakur is not bad at death.

 

prasidh will be MO enforcer who gets those crucial MO wickets.

He will leak runs from all sides..he will pickup some wickets though

[singhvivek141]

5 minutes ago, Lord said:

That's how we use Pandya or Thakur. Specialist bowler needs to bowl in PP and/or death.

Prasidh can bowl in pp..it's death where he is a problem. Like Umesh.

[vishalvirsingh]

boom ...144k..getting back to his best.

[Forward Defence]

If only Bishnoi had a decent legbreak. Better than Chahal even without it.

[Vijy]

2 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

He will leak runs from all sides..he will pickup some wickets though

not really. he has clarity in bowling plans. if you look at his T20 death over ER, it is very good.

[singhvivek141]

6 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Bumrah 144 k cracking yorker.

 

Boom is back baby  !

And he is bowling tough overs, unlike certain someone who will bowl with new ball and when things go rough, will hand over the things to others and chicken out.

[Lord]

4 minutes ago, Vijy said:

if pandu plays, use him in death. or perhaps better, thakur. there is a separate thread by @vvslaxman on death bowling. thakur is not bad at death.

 

prasidh will be MO enforcer who gets those crucial MO wickets.

 

Thakur or even Pandya are very unreliable in death. You need someone with control on yorkers and mental strength.

 

As of now only Siraj and Bumrah can do it. 

 

In middle overs we mainly use spinners with Pandu or Thakur. Prasidh won't bowl more than 4 overs there.

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

Thakur or even Pandya are very unreliable in death. You need someone with control on yorkers and mental strength.

 

As of now only Siraj and Bumrah can do it. 

 

In middle overs we mainly use spinners with Pandu or Thakur. Prasidh won't bowl more than 4 overs there.

no, he needs to bowl 6-7 overs in MO. use pandu/thakur at the death. thakur may seem unreliable, but he has actually done well there.

[Lone Wolf]

13 minutes ago, Lord said:

Prasidh can't be considered in LOIs unless he improves his death bowling skills. 

He will be fine in ODIs...  Needs to be a Test & ODI bowler only. 

[Lord]

Just now, Lone Wolf said:

He will be fine in ODIs...  Needs to be a Test & ODI bowler only. 

 

Even in ODIs he needs some skills to survive under charge.