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8 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

We are not picking right players for the job...  Picking random trundlers & repeated failures like Avesh Arshdeep Mukesh Chahar is not the answer.. 

You need to pick people with some upside & then develop their skills. 

If Harshit Rana was bowling well for KKR & his domestic team...  He should have been picked. 

 

All blame should go towards selectors who have no idea about players & BCCI who allows so much incompetence that it is mind boggling. 

Bumrah's won't come ready made but you have to make them. 

Giving Prasidh games in T20 which is his weakest format is proper clown show.  They might have destroyed his confidence & perhaps a future Test career as well. 

Mukesh is like Harshal will flatter to deceive. 

 

 

It is best to introduce high ceiling pacers like Mayank Y, Harshit and Tyagi via ODIs and not T20Is.

 

Ideally, we should have had some experienced quick pacers with T20 skills, but we don't have any except Bumrah.

 

And medium pacers Mukesh, Avesh, Arshdeep, Chahar etc. won't win us T20 World Cups. 

 

Our pace attack is good in tests snd ODIs but absolute sh!t in T20Is. 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

 

It is best to introduce high ceiling pacers like Mayank Y, Harshit and Tyagi via ODIs and not T20Is.

 

Ideally, we should have had some experienced quicker pacers with T20 skills, but we don't have any except Bumrah.

 

And Mukesh, Avesh, Arshdeep, Chahar etc. won't win us T20 World Cups. 

 

Our pace attack is good in tests snd ODIs but absolute sh!t in T20Is. 

 

 

 

 

Harshit showed T20 skills while playing for KKR & was unhittable in PP with sharp bouncers &,  stock off stump balls. 

He was improving in Death as well.  Much better than Mookesh & Avesh all season. 

ODIs won't be played much from here on...  I think he deserved a T20 call up. 

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52 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Harshit showed T20 skills while playing for KKR & was unhittable in PP with sharp bouncers &,  stock off stump balls. 

He was improving in Death as well.  Much better than Mookesh & Avesh all season. 

ODIs won't be played much from here on...  I think he deserved a T20 call up. 

 

I think we have a ODI series coming up in SA in December.

 

Should try Mayank and Harshit instead of same old boring medium pacers. 

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3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Harshit showed T20 skills while playing for KKR & was unhittable in PP with sharp bouncers &,  stock off stump balls. 

He was improving in Death as well.  Much better than Mookesh & Avesh all season. 

ODIs won't be played much from here on...  I think he deserved a T20 call up. 

he could bat too. should try to become no. 9, and then no. 8 batter

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Hearing reports that Deepak Chahar is next in line after Mukesh for the remaining T20s. 
Lol this Agarkar is such a f moron. Talking about pace and new talent is pointless and a complete waste of time. 


This bowling lineup is past its peak. It’s only gonna go downhill from now on. 
 

 

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Arshdeep and Chahar made into ODI side, are they capable of playing 50 overs and bowl 10 overs in  different phases.

 

Should be sending Sen, Mayank, Rana, Umran in SA, even if they do not make it to the playing 11. Send them as cover/net bowler or something.

Here planning needs to be longterm.

 

Else it will be samething that Ind will need to bring back same players who they said are done with this/that format eg. Ashwin (plays wc to wc), Jadeja was out of white ball but he is now only allrounder playing all 3 formats, Shami was said to be done for white-ball and for longitivtiy he will be preferred for tests only.

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The ODI pace "attack" for the SA series is horrible !

 

List A averages ( rounded off )

 

Avesh        41

Arshdeep  35

Mukesh     35

Deepak     27  ( but ODI average of 31 )

 

The others, apart ftom Deepak, have played too few ODIs to consider averages. 

 

Plus no pace and bounce in the attack at all, that too for a series in SA.

 

Why not pick Mayank Yadav and Kuldeep Sen in place of Avesh and Arshdeep. They would still have 2 medium pacers to " feel.safe ".

 

P.S .. I am assuming that Prasidh and Harshit can't be in the squad as they are playing for India A.

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59 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Big chance missed to introduce Mayank Yadav via ODIs.

 

South Africa would have been so ideal for an accurate 150 k+ pacer performing in List A 

 

 

 

 

What if he blew away opposition in helping conditions that would have killed CSK quota,Ganguly quota and RcB quota picks hope

Don't give them opportunities,they won't perform

Don't give them sniff even in helping conditions give them some random t20s on featherbed best way to deal with them

How convenient for a quota like Chahar ,escapes recent t20s straightaway gets to play in SA

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59 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Big chance missed to introduce Mayank Yadav via ODIs.

 

South Africa would have been so ideal for an accurate 150 k+ pacer performing in List A 

 

 

 

 

What if he blew away opposition in helping conditions that would have killed CSK quota,Ganguly quota and RcB quota picks hope

Don't give them opportunities,they won't perform

Don't give them sniff even in helping conditions give them some random t20s on featherbed best way to deal with them

How convenient for a quota like Chahar ,escapes recent t20s straightaway gets to play in SA

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50 minutes ago, express bowling said:

India A .. 4 day squads ....

 

Harshit Rana .. 2 games

Prasidh .. 2 games

Saini .. 2 games 

Akashdeep .. 3 games

Kaverappa .. 3 games

Deshpande .. 1 game 

 

Good to see Harshit and Prasidh.

 

Kuldeep Sen should have got 2 games too. 

 

I have accepted the fact here that u less selectors hear someone's name in IPL, they aren't going to select any new faces unless he has a strong lobby.

 

Hope Kartik Tyagi is picked by KKR as GG usually has better sense of supporting young quicks. Mayank is in LSG so hopefully he will play as well given Avesh is out of LSG.

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