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Last 5/6 years looks like Ind is going pre-Ganguly captaincy era, where anyone and everyone was selected without any plan or potential.

 

Low potential players with no intnl quality are being picked not sure why that is. there could be multiple factors. No one is questioning about team performances and goals overall.

 

Players making back-door entries at the start of world event, high potential players are being ignored and not being groomed. Coach and selectors  are retained because they are unable to find a new personal fr the job.

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11 hours ago, Vk1 said:

yet another wc defeat..we produce lot of average cricketers.. very few become superstars.. and the crucial differentiator is - our average cricketers are pathetically poor compared to Aus/Eng avg cricketers.. that's why you see 6/7 wicket hauls from Steve O'keefe, Hartley, Azaz Patels etc while our even good bowlers tend to suffer overseas

Present chairman of selectors orchestrated a win for the whole generation to savour in Australia by his stunning 6fer in Adelaide against a very strong batting unit

Yes we have so many sides in our domestics which produces many average cricketers as well apart from few good ones,that's a drawback having so many sides

Need to make the competition stiffer by reducing number of sides

Even in IPL we will soon reach 12-15 sides in coming years

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23 hours ago, msb1991 said:

Potentially - but also RP Singh was very strong in England 2007, Sreesanth was a lethal weapon in SAF, Siraj/Thakur became Test match winners in Australia with the ball and so sometimes it is horses for courses. 

 our guys play 10x nbr of games compared to sena avg cricketers.. even if you compare your examples with mine.

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On 2/11/2024 at 12:29 PM, Vk1 said:

yet another wc defeat..we produce lot of average cricketers.. very few become superstars.. and the crucial differentiator is - our average cricketers are pathetically poor compared to Aus/Eng avg cricketers.. that's why you see 6/7 wicket hauls from Steve O'keefe, Hartley, Azaz Patels etc while our even good bowlers tend to suffer overseas

they are bang average

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On 2/12/2024 at 2:30 AM, tapandrun said:

Last 5/6 years looks like Ind is going pre-Ganguly captaincy era, where anyone and everyone was selected without any plan or potential.

 

Low potential players with no intnl quality are being picked not sure why that is. there could be multiple factors. No one is questioning about team performances and goals overall.

 

Players making back-door entries at the start of world event, high potential players are being ignored and not being groomed. Coach and selectors  are retained because they are unable to find a new personal fr the job.

Just shows how much a coach having free hand can affect a team, positively and negatively. The chappel era, the Shastri era and now the Dravid era. The mentality has flipped a 180 fom Kohli-Shastri combo to the current coach and captain.

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It was about changing Umran’s mindset: J&K’s bowling coach Krishnakumar


https://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/ranji-trophy-it-was-about-changing-umrans-mindset-jks-bowling-coach-krishnakumar/article67835541.ece

 

@express bowlingwe have been discussing about this many a times here,the galring issue and the mindset of these new young quicks but the freeloader lazy bison fast bowling coach Mhambrey has no clue about anything,this no name J&K coach is talking about things which freeloader Mhambrey can never think of

Steyn did wonderfully well with him in 2022 IPL wonder what stopped him in season next

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38 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

It was about changing Umran’s mindset: J&K’s bowling coach Krishnakumar


https://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/ranji-trophy-it-was-about-changing-umrans-mindset-jks-bowling-coach-krishnakumar/article67835541.ece

 

@express bowlingwe have been discussing about this many a times here,the galring issue and the mindset of these new young quicks but the freeloader lazy bison fast bowling coach Mhambrey has no clue about anything,this no name J&K coach is talking about things which freeloader Mhambrey can never think of

Steyn did wonderfully well with him in 2022 IPL wonder what stopped him in season next

Wow such an insightful article...  What kind of bull*it Mhambbrey & co fed to Umran that he can't move the ball at 150k?  No wonder he looked lost & cut down his pace in search for accuracy. 

 

Let's hope he turns it around in IPl & starts bowling full & fast again.  Accuracy was never a issue with him.  All about length. 

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45 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

It was about changing Umran’s mindset: J&K’s bowling coach Krishnakumar


https://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/ranji-trophy-it-was-about-changing-umrans-mindset-jks-bowling-coach-krishnakumar/article67835541.ece

 

@express bowlingwe have been discussing about this many a times here,the galring issue and the mindset of these new young quicks but the freeloader lazy bison fast bowling coach Mhambrey has no clue about anything,this no name J&K coach is talking about things which freeloader Mhambrey can never think of

Steyn did wonderfully well with him in 2022 IPL wonder what stopped him in season next

 

Great article. Looks like he has got a good coach working with him. Want to see Umran swinging it at pace in IPL. 

 

Former Rajasthan pacer, Krishnakumar had to bust the myth that it’s hard to control the ball when bowling at great speed. “Dale Steyn, Brett Lee, (Jasprit) Bumrah. There are a lot of examples. There are a lot of myths going around. Because he’s a young boy, he listens to all those myths, and it goes into the mind. So, I forced him by sending the videos to think like that (differently). Like, ‘No, I can swing it.’”

 

“When I joined (the J&K team), he was not sure. He said: ‘Sir, I don’t think it’ll swing that much at 150 kph.’ So, I told him and he did it himself. Then, he was like, ‘Sir, it’s happening!’ The ball is moving and he’s swinging the ball both ways now!”

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9 hours ago, Suhaan said:

It was about changing Umran’s mindset: J&K’s bowling coach Krishnakumar


https://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/ranji-trophy-it-was-about-changing-umrans-mindset-jks-bowling-coach-krishnakumar/article67835541.ece

 

@express bowlingwe have been discussing about this many a times here,the galring issue and the mindset of these new young quicks but the freeloader lazy bison fast bowling coach Mhambrey has no clue about anything,this no name J&K coach is talking about things which freeloader Mhambrey can never think of

Steyn did wonderfully well with him in 2022 IPL wonder what stopped him in season next

Pitches and too much interference from franchise.

 

Also, he has someone like Williamson as captain in 2022, Markram in 2023 already told that he isnt in control of the team selection, someone else was running the show from the backend.

 

Even now, if Hyderabad pitches stay the same slow and low bounce..Umran will struggle as his deliveries will come on a hitting length after losing a lot of pace.

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