Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Rightarmfast]

6 hours ago, the don said:

Ubaid Shah who recently played the U19 worldcup for Pakistan bowls around 90 mph. Surprisingly quick for his age.

He is Naseem’s youngest brother and was the highest wicket taker at the world cup for Pakistan. What a talented family. 
Someone needs to get Ali Raza into the system.

Why is it a surprise for a 23-24 yr old to bowl at 90mph?

[express bowling]

11 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

, like the one during Dhoni. Where he intentionally didnt let any genuine pace bowler play because that would have shortened his wicket keeping career and affected his batting.

 

Most of us had this same impression during Dhoni's regime. And it's true that he did not like genuine pacers. 

 

But compared to this current TM even Dhoni was much better at supporting pace and bounce. In a backdrop of our pacers having no credentials ( a stark difference now in comparison when we have pacers like Bumrah and Shami as benchmarks ), he introduced Umesh, Aaron, Shami and Bumrah.  Probably Ishant too. And apart from Aaron, all others got decent support. He played the super tall Pankaj Singh too.

 

Our 2015 WC bowling attack in Australia had Shami, Umesh and even Mohit bowling really quickly. (  Compare this with our 2022 WC floaty bowling attack in Australia with Bhuvi, Arshdeep, Harshal and Shami was added last minute ) 

 

Only genuine pacer, who has debuted in international cricket and played more than 5 games under this TM, is Umran and he got very little support after that. 

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In a backdrop of us having a fast bowling culture starting 2016, this TM has reached new lows in terms of support and development of genuine quicks.

Edited February 18 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Where is Fast bowler Wood when the young Indian batters are on a rampage !!

[SRT100]

Bumrah and Siraj will bowl with a lot of freedom. Hitman will set very attacking fields.

 

550+ runs to defend is a lot.

[express bowling]

Bumrah bowling 140 k to 144 k consistently now. 

 

Hits Duckett on the box.

Edited February 18 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Amazing keeping by Jurel.

 

That diving take down the leg and then the take to get the run out.

 

We have got a good keeper batsman. 

[express bowling]

Bumrah 143.9 k attempted yorker. 

 

Yorker at 143 k after that.

Edited February 18 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Vicious bouncer by Bumrah to Stokes.

 

The next fuller ball had Stokes stuck.at the crease.

 

Why not use the surprise bouncer a bit more when you have such s vicious bouncer ??

[MK55]

8 over spell for Bumrah? WTF is Rohit doing. He’s probably getting rested the next match, but that’s too long of a spell for a quick bowler

[Suhaan]

3 minutes ago, MK55 said:

8 over spell for Bumrah? WTF is Rohit doing. He’s probably getting rested the next match, but that’s too long of a spell for a quick bowler

Rohit seems to go through motions,lacks awareness

[express bowling]

Siraj attacking the stumps with some Indip.

 

Skidding the ball off the pitch. 

 

Good to see. 

[New guy]

6 minutes ago, MK55 said:

8 over spell for Bumrah? WTF is Rohit doing. He’s probably getting rested the next match, but that’s too long of a spell for a quick bowler

Well there was a tea break in between.

Edited February 18 by New guy

[MK55]

Some really ordinary tactics by Rohit. Ashwin should have got the ball by now. 

[MK55]

2 minutes ago, New guy said:

Well there was a tea break in between.

I know but it’s barely a 20 minute break. Things like these are what contribute to stress fractures. 

[Lord]

29 minutes ago, MK55 said:

Some really ordinary tactics by Rohit. Ashwin should have got the ball by now. 

I think he needs to spend some time on field before being allowed to bowl

[express bowling]

I feel like watching the match just to see Jurel keep.

 

He has been that good in the 2nd innings. 

 

We have got our new keeper batsman.

 

And this will.allow Pant to return as a specialist batsman without the pressure of keeping. 

Edited February 18 by express bowling

[express bowling]

 

 

 

 

This is what genuine fast bowling looks like. Using bounce and hostility. Something which dominated cricket for so many years and did so even after helmets came and the 2 bouncer rule came. Opposition teams got blown away. 

 

Nobody knew about the release epeeds. But batsmen shivered and their teams lost. And these hostile bouncy pacers were the low average strike bowlers.

 

But modern strike bowlers don't want to use hostile bounce as a weapon and need a lesser quality enforcer pacer to do this for them,  They don't want to bowl with effort.

[Vijy]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

 

 

This is what genuine fast bowling looks like. Using bounce and hostility. Something which dominated cricket for so many years and did so even after helmets came and the 2 bouncer rule came. Opposition teams got blown away. 

 

Nobody knew about the release epeeds. But batsmen shivered and their teams lost. And these hostile bouncy pacers were the low average strike bowlers.

 

But modern strike bowlers don't want to use hostile bounce as a weapon and need a lesser quality enforcer pacer to do this for them,  They don't want to bowl with effort.

Marshall and Roberts had the greatest bouncers. none of the other WI, Pak, Aus pacers I have seen used them so well.

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, Vijy said:

Marshall and Roberts had the greatest bouncers. none of the other WI, Pak, Aus pacers I have seen used them so well.

 

Walsh was a brute too when it came to bounce. And most WI pacers of the 1975 to 2000 era practiced generating steep bounce.

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Walsh was a brute too when it came to bounce. And most WI pacers of the 1975 to 2000 era practiced generating steep bounce.

yes, agreed. also patterson