Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[express bowling]

4 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Mayank   he needs to make his T20 debut asap, on SL tour if possible.

 

Mayank himself said that he has just started bowling with full run up.

 

Will he be match fit by the 27th ?

[Lord]

Mayank has only played 1 FC match. Talks of him playing in Aus is premature.

 

Needs to focus on LOIs for now.

[express bowling]

11 hours ago, Lord said:

Mayank has only played 1 FC match. Talks of him playing in Aus is premature.

 

Needs to focus on LOIs for now.

 

 

There will be Duleep Trophy and India A tour to Australia before the Australia test series.

 

If Mayank looks fit in ODIs then he may have the chance to play a few FC games before the big series. 

 

Even if Mayank manages to bowl 4 short spells of 3 overs each ... with accuracy and bounce at 150 k+ ... it will be devastating in Perth, Gabba and Melbourne. 

Edited July 12, 2024 by express bowling

[Kron]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

Mayank has only played 1 FC match. Talks of him playing in Aus is premature.

 

Needs to focus on LOIs for now.

Exactly

Pakistan do this and then regret it. 

 

Give him time. He needs a good 10 games or so then we shall see. First class games that is

[MK55]

Unfortunately Mayank got injured at literally the worst possible time. He was all set for the Indian team after those man of the match performances. That bowling intensity n accuracy was next level than any other bowler in that short stint.

 

Now Duleep trophy has become extremely important for him. He should entirely focus on his body n preparation for that. A good performance there and no one can stop him from getting in the team. I’m sure he can do it if stays confident, positive and not distracted by any other nonsense.
 

 

 

 

 

[rkt.india]

19 hours ago, Mosher said:

Dravid's son looks decent  Tall gets good bounce. 

 

Is he an AR?

 

 

Yes all-rounder 

[Suhaan]

44 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Yes all-rounder 

Is he in process to get poached by England?

[Suhaan]

Raj Bawa has suddenly vanished,

Still didn't recover?

[MK55]

21 hours ago, Mosher said:

Dravid's son looks decent  Tall gets good bounce. 

 

Is he an AR?

 

 

 

Action has potential and bowling speed looks decent too (at least visually). 

 

[Need4Speed]

3 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Raj Bawa has suddenly vanished,

Still didn't recover?

he is posting pics in insta :D

[Lord]

3 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Raj Bawa has suddenly vanished,

Still didn't recover?

 

Was hyped too much too early. Same for Arshin Kulkarni. 

 

Both have long way to go.

[vishalvirsingh]

I am kind of bothered and  concerned about MAYANK YADAV and a bit about Umraan KHAN.

 

SPeed /Pace at which he was bowling in this IPL and the control over his bouncers , even his length balls - though I liked his bouncers the most as they were coming of good length. the speed may get reduced to under 150K- to maintain a speed of 150+ is a very tough task,

if selectors play him when he is bowling 140 to 145K , he may not create that impact in world cricket. as far as his impact as of today- we saw it in those 2 IPL games. he got 3 wickets each in both matches and there were at least 4 to 5 MIS hits which clearly indicated that batsman were not able to face him.

Point I wanna make is "DELAYING HIM to ensure he becomes a better bowler " is not the correct decision- if he is FIT - PLay him. 

i will be shocked if he is not picked for Srilankan tour if he is FIT.

 

Same stands for Umraan Khan....I am not sure how good is he bowling today but are our selectors thinking to play them when they start bowling 140 to 145K as the speed will not remain 150+ all the time , he will slow down to 140 to 150K and then 140 to 145 and then 135 to 145K and then 130 to 140K....

like umesh went down from 142 to 149K to 140 to 145k and now he is 130 to 145k

 

these are Super fast bowlers - don't wait for them to become fast-medium bowlers and then make them play

[Need4Speed]

25 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

I am kind of bothered and  concerned about MAYANK YADAV and a bit about Umraan KHAN.

 

SPeed /Pace at which he was bowling in this IPL and the control over his bouncers , even his length balls - though I liked his bouncers the most as they were coming of good length. the speed may get reduced to under 150K- to maintain a speed of 150+ is a very tough task,

if selectors play him when he is bowling 140 to 145K , he may not create that impact in world cricket. as far as his impact as of today- we saw it in those 2 IPL games. he got 3 wickets each in both matches and there were at least 4 to 5 MIS hits which clearly indicated that batsman were not able to face him.

Point I wanna make is "DELAYING HIM to ensure he becomes a better bowler " is not the correct decision- if he is FIT - PLay him. 

i will be shocked if he is not picked for Srilankan tour if he is FIT.

 

Same stands for Umraan Khan....I am not sure how good is he bowling today but are our selectors thinking to play them when they start bowling 140 to 145K as the speed will not remain 150+ all the time , he will slow down to 140 to 150K and then 140 to 145 and then 135 to 145K and then 130 to 140K....

like umesh went down from 142 to 149K to 140 to 145k and now he is 130 to 145k

 

these are Super fast bowlers - don't wait for them to become fast-medium bowlers and then make them play

Totally agree with you apart from 2 points:

 

1- His name is Umran Malik :D

2- I agree with your thought process but I dont want to criticize BCCI yet on Mayank Yadav..I think he just started bowling with full run up in NCA..so lets wait and see whats the end result once he makes appearance in competitive matches..if they made him bowl 145k..I will join you to criticize them..I have some hope as Bumrah still bowled some high pace deliveries in the world cup..hopefully they wont ask Mayank to reduce his pace..perhaps just tweak in action or something.. fingers crossed on his return..

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, vishalvirsingh said:

I am kind of bothered and  concerned about MAYANK YADAV and a bit about Umraan KHAN.

 

SPeed /Pace at which he was bowling in this IPL and the control over his bouncers , even his length balls - though I liked his bouncers the most as they were coming of good length. the speed may get reduced to under 150K- to maintain a speed of 150+ is a very tough task,

if selectors play him when he is bowling 140 to 145K , he may not create that impact in world cricket. as far as his impact as of today- we saw it in those 2 IPL games. he got 3 wickets each in both matches and there were at least 4 to 5 MIS hits which clearly indicated that batsman were not able to face him.

Point I wanna make is "DELAYING HIM to ensure he becomes a better bowler " is not the correct decision- if he is FIT - PLay him. 

i will be shocked if he is not picked for Srilankan tour if he is FIT.

 

Same stands for Umraan Khan....I am not sure how good is he bowling today but are our selectors thinking to play them when they start bowling 140 to 145K as the speed will not remain 150+ all the time , he will slow down to 140 to 150K and then 140 to 145 and then 135 to 145K and then 130 to 140K....

like umesh went down from 142 to 149K to 140 to 145k and now he is 130 to 145k

 

these are Super fast bowlers - don't wait for them to become fast-medium bowlers and then make them play

Umran is on back-burner rt now, they are not even thinking of him, Mayank they wanted to play him in SL and wanted to take him to Aus.

Not exactly sure of the extent of his injury and the recovery. 

 

Do not see Zim tour  as benchmark or general-direction of team selection in future, it has alway been like select every player who is in the news for good reason without thinking composition - Hence 4 openers in the team and all 4 are in the playing 11.

 

With Umran they fast-tracked him, he had decent start was accurate for a 145+ kmph bowler in his 1st intnl season. Then they and he himself lost confidence in him.

With his pace he should have won atleast 2/3 games on his own. He failed to do that.

 

With current TM and selectors bowlers with 135-140 kmph and faster ones reaching 143 kmph  pace and bowling relatively tighter line and length are there on the top of their choice. 

 

Let see if things changes with new management, may be there is a push for higher potential bowlers.

Also these bowler have to come-up with performances, Umran needs to bowl close to his top speeds more :150+ kmph .

Have not seem much of Tyagi but rated highly by some, he too needs to come up with performances, he got a chance in just 1 ipl match, but he blew it.

In IPLs these faster bowlers have to understand that they are going to get runs and them to be relevant in the format they need to pick wkts and win games.

They wont be able to have a economical game, edges will for boundaries they have to aim at taking more wkts which Umran did in his second season. 

 

Deshpandey did that to a certain extent, he knows he can not be economical so he aims at taking wkt. Till last season he was going with 10-11 Eco. this season he was below 9.

Looks like Ind bowlers does not know their pace, their range varies alot. Pradish needs to bowl more balls 145+kmph, Umran needs to bowl ~150+ kmph to be more effective and improve as wkt taker. Similar thing with Sen he does not have slower ones but he was trying that in IPL match.   

 

 

 

 

Edited July 12, 2024 by tapandrun

[Kron]

8 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

I am kind of bothered and  concerned about MAYANK YADAV and a bit about Umraan KHAN.

 

SPeed /Pace at which he was bowling in this IPL and the control over his bouncers , even his length balls - though I liked his bouncers the most as they were coming of good length. the speed may get reduced to under 150K- to maintain a speed of 150+ is a very tough task,

if selectors play him when he is bowling 140 to 145K , he may not create that impact in world cricket. as far as his impact as of today- we saw it in those 2 IPL games. he got 3 wickets each in both matches and there were at least 4 to 5 MIS hits which clearly indicated that batsman were not able to face him.

Point I wanna make is "DELAYING HIM to ensure he becomes a better bowler " is not the correct decision- if he is FIT - PLay him. 

i will be shocked if he is not picked for Srilankan tour if he is FIT.

 

Same stands for Umraan Khan....I am not sure how good is he bowling today but are our selectors thinking to play them when they start bowling 140 to 145K as the speed will not remain 150+ all the time , he will slow down to 140 to 150K and then 140 to 145 and then 135 to 145K and then 130 to 140K....

like umesh went down from 142 to 149K to 140 to 145k and now he is 130 to 145k

 

these are Super fast bowlers - don't wait for them to become fast-medium bowlers and then make them play

What happened to prasidh Krishna? Useless in SA tour but read that he played injured. What happened now? Career over?

[Suhaan]

8 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Was hyped too much too early. Same for Arshin Kulkarni. 

 

Both have long way to go.

Arshin looked mediocre even before WC

[vishalvirsingh]

3 hours ago, Kron said:

What happened to prasidh Krishna? Useless in SA tour but read that he played injured. What happened now? Career over?

i have no update now...any one else has any update.

[singhvivek141]

3 hours ago, Kron said:

What happened to prasidh Krishna? Useless in SA tour but read that he played injured. What happened now? Career over?

Still in NCA.

 

[express bowling]

Deshpande playing today.

[express bowling]

Khaleel 2nd over 

 

143

142

140

Edited July 13, 2024 by express bowling