Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[prudent_kreeda]

Very scary to think how india can maintain its status with these hopeless young pacers  after Bumrah, Shami , Siraj. 

Not one has risen to their potential and look total crap . Worse than associate team pacers . 

What Khaleel was doing in these 8 years , only god knows ?

[maniac]

29 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Siraj bowled with effort today.

 

Was hitting the bat hard and getting a few balls to bounce disconcertingly from back of a length.  Seamed the ball too.

 

Speeds went upto 143 k. 

Khaleel 130 clicks with no control on a bowling friendly  pitch sticks out like a sore thumb.

[maniac]

1 minute ago, prudent_kreeda said:

Very scary to think how india can maintain its status with these hopeless young pacers  after Bumrah, Shami , Siraj. 

Not one has risen to their potential and look total crap . Worse than associate team pacers . 

What Khaleel was doing in these 8 years , only god knows ?

people thought I was trolling when I said Mukesh is the next best option. Not long term but seems to have some brains when bowling.

[tapandrun]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

Khaleel spraying the ball at 131 k to 137 k.

 

Not looking the part.

TM and selectors have been recycling player without seeing if they have improved at all.

Mentioned this perviously as well what has changed in Avesh or Khaleel to be picked after such a long time.

Khaleel is there only because he is one of the few LAF available, he has ingredients but has not improved at all, he is part of Ind cricketing system for v.long he played Ind U-19 and still not able to improve, when he kind of know just few improvement he will be 1st back-up to Singh. Do not think he is a good fielder either would be amongst slowest movers - Sundar, him, Chahal 

 

Even in Raj t20 he was not the top bowler Ashok Sharma was getting wkt with his aggression and some pace.

 

 

[Suhaan]

7 minutes ago, maniac said:

Khaleel 130 clicks with no control on a bowling friendly  pitch sticks out like a sore thumb.

Khaleel ,Avesh, Mukesh are more or less same on average pace ie 130-132 that too in t20s

And Mukesh is tad better

[maniac]

3 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Khaleel ,Avesh, Mukesh are more or less same on average pace ie 130-132 that too in t20s

And Mukesh is tad better

sahi pakde hain

[express bowling]

25 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

these hopeless young pacers  after Bumrah, Shami , Siraj. 

Not one has risen to their potential and look total crap .

 

None among Unadkat, Avesh, Mukesh, Khaleel or Deshpande had potential to start with, in the 2022 - 24 period.

 

Them failing is not surprising but expected. 

 

Picking them all together is surprising. 

 

Khaleel could have been a tad better than the rest in terms of ability ... but he is lazy and gives the vibe that he is disinterested in playing for India, and IPL is enough.

[Need4Speed]

16 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

None among Unadkat, Avesh, Mukesh, Khaleel or Deshpande had potential to start with, in the 2022 - 24 period.

 

Them failing is not surprising but expected. 

 

Picking them all together is surprising. 

 

Khaleel could have been a tad better than the rest in terms of ability ... but he is lazy and gives the vibe that he is disinterested in playing for India, and IPL is enough.

when you develop such thinking and gets complacent..you may be even not good enough to play ipl in couple of seasons..will regress badly..

[MediumPacer]

39 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Khaleel ,Avesh, Mukesh are more or less same on average pace ie 130-132 that too in t20s

And Mukesh is tad better

mukki bhaiya was called medium pacer ,rest were championed as 140k.

[singhvivek141]

5 hours ago, MediumPacer said:

mukki bhaiya was called medium pacer ,rest were championed as 140k.

Avesh babu was 140k in 2017..from 2019-20 onwards his pace is around 132-134k only. 

 

Khaleel too just weak, can't sustain pace. Looks tired after every ball. Looks like another age fudger.

[Kron]

really concerned with bowling depth. younger gen is not focusing on tests. only want to play paisa league. 

i want bcco to come up with rules to ensure tests get priotized. if you dont play for country sorry phattu no ipl money salah lowdes. 

[Suhaan]

7 hours ago, MediumPacer said:

mukki bhaiya was called medium pacer ,rest were championed as 140k.

Khaleel ,Avesh were bowling high 140s in SMAT 2018 and IPL same year

No one made false statement about their pace ,infact many gave up on them watching them drop pace soon after 2018

After IPL 2018 zaleel just bowled one delivery over 145 that too in 2018 Asia Cup

He was never the same bowler after that

[Lone Wolf]

Idk why Chuskis don't hype Simrarjeet at all. 

Sadly Another KM Asif in the making 

[Suhaan]

10 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Idk why Chuskis don't hype Simrarjeet at all. 

Sadly Another KM Asif in the making 

You are right those with potential aren't backed, endorsed (except to some extent Umran)

Simarjeet potential wise is one of the top3 uncapped pacer in the country right now

[rkt.india]

9 hours ago, tapandrun said:

TM and selectors have been recycling player without seeing if they have improved at all.

Mentioned this perviously as well what has changed in Avesh or Khaleel to be picked after such a long time.

Khaleel is there only because he is one of the few LAF available, he has ingredients but has not improved at all, he is part of Ind cricketing system for v.long he played Ind U-19 and still not able to improve, when he kind of know just few improvement he will be 1st back-up to Singh. Do not think he is a good fielder either would be amongst slowest movers - Sundar, him, Chahal 

 

Even in Raj t20 he was not the top bowler Ashok Sharma was getting wkt with his aggression and some pace.

 

 

And Vishal Godara who can hit  too.

[vishalvirsingh]

11 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Khaleel ,Avesh, Mukesh are more or less same on average pace ie 130-132 that too in t20s

And Mukesh is tad better

Zaleel has DISAPPOINTED me..made me zaleel.

He was bowling well in IPL now he looks the worst trundler.

 

Avesh has a good bouncer and Mukesh has a good inswinger at least. Let's see if he improves.

[singhvivek141]

11 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

None among Unadkat, Avesh, Mukesh, Khaleel or Deshpande had potential to start with, in the 2022 - 24 period.

 

Them failing is not surprising but expected. 

 

Picking them all together is surprising. 

 

Khaleel could have been a tad better than the rest in terms of ability ... but he is lazy and gives the vibe that he is disinterested in playing for India, and IPL is enough.

Whenever I see Khaleel...not sure why I remember of Nathu Singh.

Similar height, physique and same laziness while fielding or batting.

 

Nathu lost his track quickly and he left cricket for the land business one he had the money...Khaleel is still dragging himself.

[tapandrun]

3 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Whenever I see Khaleel...not sure why I remember of Nathu Singh.

Similar height, physique and same laziness while fielding or batting.

 

Nathu lost his track quickly and he left cricket for the land business one he had the money...Khaleel is still dragging himself.

There is a bottleneck created in Raj team, older players are not going out and new players are not getting  any chances.

There were 3/4 net bowlers in IPL -2024 from raj. none of then are getting any chances or reckoning, nagarkoti is looking like its done fr him, bisnoi had to change the team

 

 

IPL -2024 net bowlers

Hemant Chaudhary - Rajasthan (Lucknow Super Giants)

 

Mahipal Singh Bhati - Rajasthan (Mumbai Indians)

 

Ashok Sharma - Rajasthan (RR)

 

Nitish Mishra - Rajasthan Royals

 

Abhishek Batra - Rajasthan Royals

 

Vishal Godara - Rajasthan (RR)

 

 

[singhvivek141]

1 minute ago, tapandrun said:

There is a bottleneck created in Raj team, older players are not going out and new players are not getting  any chances.

There were 3/4 net bowlers in IPL -2024 from raj. none of then are getting any chances or reckoning, nagarkoti is looking like its done fr him, bisnoi had to change the team

 

 

IPL -2024 net bowlers

Hemant Chaudhary - Rajasthan (Lucknow Super Giants)

 

Mahipal Singh Bhati - Rajasthan (Mumbai Indians)

 

Ashok Sharma - Rajasthan (RR)

 

Nitish Mishra - Rajasthan Royals

 

Abhishek Batra - Rajasthan Royals

 

Vishal Godara - Rajasthan (RR)

 

 

Yes, I wrote about this issue a while back.

 

State teams are stuck with mediocre bowlers in their 30s who have no future, but they keep playing them year after year.

 

For example, Sid Kaul and Baltej Singh are the main pacers for Punjab, while young fast bowlers like Simarjeet and Gurnoor are wasting their time on the bench.

 

Delhi, which usually supports quicks, played Saini and Ishant in the last FC season. Even a trundler like Divij Mehra got to play FC.

 

We've lost so many quicks in the past, like Sandeep Warrier and HS Sharath. Kuldeep Sen will probably be next.

[tapandrun]

16 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Yes, I wrote about this issue a while back.

 

State teams are stuck with mediocre bowlers in their 30s who have no future, but they keep playing them year after year.

 

For example, Sid Kaul and Baltej Singh are the main pacers for Punjab, while young fast bowlers like Simarjeet and Gurnoor are wasting their time on the bench.

 

Delhi, which usually supports quicks, played Saini and Ishant in the last FC season. Even a trundler like Divij Mehra got to play FC.

 

We've lost so many quicks in the past, like Sandeep Warrier and HS Sharath. Kuldeep Sen will probably be next.

Simarjeet (CSK) is he not from Del ?

There was Sahil Khan who played Punj t20 league he looked fast for league, rushed batters in some games

 

Del is planning for their own T20 league, there will some talent if it gets going 

Edited July 31 by tapandrun