Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[express bowling]

35 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Still crying about it .  Rana got 0.5 degrees of swing compared to the 1.7 degrees that Arshdeep has got so far. 

 

Swing is so overrated and our folks keep banging on about it.  Even Jimmy Anderson's stats improved over the last decade when he became a seam/wobble seam bowler instead of a swinger. 

 

Most Indian ex-cricketers understand only length and swinggg. That's all they talk about. 

 

Whereas cricket has been dominated by good lines, pace, bounce, seam movement and zip off the deck.

 

This commentator was criticizing Harshit strongly after a 2 wickets for 0 runs spell, for his lesser swing ... not understanding that he is a bouncy seam bowler. 

Edited September 5, 2024 by express bowling

[express bowling]

7 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I saw only 133 kph. What was his fastest ?

 

 

Khaleel 

 

Fastest  140.x kph

 

Average 135.x kph

 

[  Shown on TV after he bowled 2 spells ]

 

 

[express bowling]

20 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

 

Only Rana looks international quality then .

 

 

Harshit and Khaleel are the only 2 pacers who have combined pace, bounce and movement.

 

Harshit has been accurate in addition and have been the only 140 k+ pacer too. 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 5, 2024 by express bowling

[Nikhil_cric]

7 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Most Indian ex-cricketers understand only length and swinggg. That's all they talk about. 

 

Whereas cricket has been dominated by good lines, bounce, seam movement and pace. 

 

This commentator was criticizing Harshit strongly after a 2 wickets for 0 runs spell, for his lesser swing ... not understanding that he is a bouncy seam bowler. 

 

Airspeed

Bounce

Accuracy

 

Gap

 

Seam movement

 

Daylight

 

Swing 

 

 

Swing is the least important attribute for a Test class bowler. 

[Nikhil_cric]

4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Khaleel 

 

Fastest  140.x kph

 

Average 135.x kph

 

[  Shown on TV after he bowled 2 spells ]

 

 

Decent   

[vayuu1]

2 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Akashdeep has pace ,but his non bowling arm doesn't fall the way it should

His pace will further deteriorate

Thats why u have morne morkal as bowling coach 

[CoverDrive]

Khaleel has looked one with most zip bowling almost touching 140 in his third spell too.  Akash deep also has been impressive seems to bowl consistently around 135 with high accuracy. He looks test match ready 

 

Would like to see more of Rana who looks impressive too. 

[Lone Wolf]

If they want a left armer desperately Khaleel is only decent option as he has raw ingredients at least.

 

Harshit Akashdeep Khaleel along with Siraj should be in the test squad among newbies.

 

 

[Nikhil_cric]

13 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

If they want a left armer desperately Khaleel is only decent option as he has raw ingredients at least.

 

Harshit Akashdeep Khaleel along with Siraj should be in the test squad among newbies.

 

 

No need for left armers in Tests. Unlike white ball cricket , there's no advantage to being a left armer in Tests .

 

Just need to pick your most accurate bowlers who can sustain 85 mph +. 

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, Mosher said:

Commentator was crying about Harshit's length that he has to pitch it up and make the batsman drive but Harshit is not a swing bowler to do that. Mostly hits that good length hard and seams the ball and gets bounce.

Dibbly bobbly Ashok Madchodtra type swing salivates dihati commentators

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

No need for left armers in Tests. Unlike white ball cricket , there's no advantage to being a left armer in Tests .

 

Just need to pick your most accurate bowlers who can sustain 85 mph +. 

I am also from same pov but even if TM is hell bent on picking one pick the guy who can at least bowl quick & generate bounce & not look floaty 

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Dibbly bobbly Ashok Madchodtra type swing salivates dihati commentators

This time it's Ajay Mehra 

[cowboysfan]

Akashdeep has lost a lot of pace,i dont think he clocked 140 once,he generally bowled very good line and length at 130-135k.

[Sgattick10]

2 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Dibbly bobbly Ashok Madchodtra type swing salivates dihati commentators

This guy has been commentating since I was a kid 

[putrevus]

22 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

Akashdeep has lost a lot of pace,i dont think he clocked 140 once,he generally bowled very good line and length at 130-135k.

Plus he is not that tall to generate bounce.

[Sgattick10]

3 hours ago, Vickydev said:

Somebody tell me Thakare can bat a bit? Can't be a bowler with speeds like that

Bowls 120 kph and is one of the main pacer in the side who picks such duds? 

[singhvivek141]

4 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Plus he is not that tall to generate bounce.

He generates bounce, I think he is still not fully recovered from Dengue. Usually it takes 3-4 weeks to come out of it 100%

[Need4Speed]

34 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

Akashdeep has lost a lot of pace,i dont think he clocked 140 once,he generally bowled very good line and length at 130-135k.

He just came out of dengue and was practicing to sustsin speeds..per his recent interview..

Dengue sucks you from within..I am hoping Umran isnt affected by Dengue too

[tapandrun]

Akash deep-Do not think some1 can lose that amount of pace in such a quick time unless due to some injury.

 

Are all 3 Siraj, Akash deep and Umran recovering from Dengue??

 

 

[tapandrun]

With lack of foresightedness from TM and selectors Ind bowling strengh is down to this , out of top 60 players only 1 bowler (Rana) looks intnl level.

 

The quality and potential is still to be seen, he should have played for Ind by now in atleast Zim/SL.