Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, MK55 said:

Wood has gotta be the fastest 35 year old bowler in the history of cricket.

GOAT in terms of pace/year

[tapandrun]

4 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Seems like Shami got tonked badly. Over 8 rpo. Old man is undercooked and shouldn't be in the CT squad. 

Shami and kuldeep both should have been rested for this CT, issue is both captain and coach are in survival mode.

[Suhaan]

24 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Shami and kuldeep both should have been rested for this CT, issue is both captain and coach are in survival mode.

They should bid goodbye to Shami

He's certainly not looking good ,WC23 was his last Hurrah

He gave it all to win it but unfortunately didn't happen

Need him to look after youngsters upcoming and inspire them to work hard, bowl fast and bowl well

[express bowling]

Atkinson and Sajid were bowling 132 k to 140 k in their first spells. 

 

 

[tapandrun]

9 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Atkinson and Sajid were bowling 132 k to 140 k in their first spells. 

 

 

Sajid def. needs assistance from the wkt to be effective and do not think he has full 10 overs in him, kind of a eng. version of D.chahar

Atkinson's performance has been surprising he was bowling in 140s kmph in his test debut not long back and was getting steep bounce.

 

Overton and carse have adopted to Ind conditions better.

Edited February 9 by tapandrun

[express bowling]

Just now, tapandrun said:

Sajid de. needs assistance from the wkt to be effective and do not think he has full 10 overs in him.

Atkinson's performance has been surprising he was bowling in 140s kmph in his test debut not long back and was getting steep bounce.

 

Overton and carse have adopted to Ind conditions better.

 

 

Atkinson has slowed down a lot in tests too. Was averaging early 130s in tests in Pakistan and not crossing 140 k. 

 

Carse is slowing down too.

 

Playing regularly and still bowling quick is a different kettle of fish.

 

 

[tapandrun]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Atkinson has slowed down a lot in tests too. Was averaging early 130s in tests in Pakistan and not crossing 140 k. 

 

Carse is slowing down too.

 

Playing regularly and still bowling quick is a different kettle of fish.

 

 

Its not been 2 years since he made his debut and already down on pace, atkinson started touching high 140s kmph in the hundred and then dropped to 140-145 kmph in t20is and then now to 130s kmph

 

For carse think he is trying to change pace in Ind conditions, he won eng a test match in pak bowling 140+ kmph on a low slow wkt on a hot day.

In recent t20is too he touched 145 kmph few times

[Lone Wolf]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Atkinson has slowed down a lot in tests too. Was averaging early 130s in tests in Pakistan and not crossing 140 k. 

 

Carse is slowing down too.

 

Playing regularly and still bowling quick is a different kettle of fish.

 

 

Long season for them especially Carse.  Non stop cricket for him.  Bowled in 140's in Pakistan and NZ.  Even in India so far he is bowling 138-144ks range.

[Lone Wolf]

2 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Its not been 2 years since he made his debut and already down on pace, atkinson started touching high 140s kmph in the hundred and then dropped to 140-145 kmph in t20is and then now to 130s kmph

 

For carse think he is trying to change pace in Ind conditions, he won eng a test match in pak bowling 140+ kmph on a low slow wkt on a hot day.

In recent t20is too he touched 145 kmph few times

Carse has tools to do well in Australia.  Cummins type non stop HTD ability.

Edited February 9 by Lone Wolf

[Nikhil_cric]

11 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Atkinson has slowed down a lot in tests too. Was averaging early 130s in tests in Pakistan and not crossing 140 k. 

 

Carse is slowing down too.

 

Playing regularly and still bowling quick is a different kettle of fish.

 

 

You can't maintain pace when you are flogged in 3 formats. 

[Suhaan]

9 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

You can't maintain pace when you are flogged in 3 formats. 

That is why teams should play their best players in atmost 2 formats especially bowlers who play red ball

 

[Nikhil_cric]

12 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

That is why teams should play their best players in atmost 2 formats especially bowlers who play red ball

 

Test bowlers should only bowl in Tests and a  ODIs max.  

 

T20 workload should be minimal. 

[singhvivek141]

12 hours ago, Suhaan said:

That is why teams should play their best players in atmost 2 formats especially bowlers who play red ball

 

Those teams arent run by idiots.

[rkt.india]

6 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Those teams arent run by idiots.

Means all teams are run by idiots because no team does that. 

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Means all teams are run by idiots because no team does that. 

Format specific teams is the need of hour.

Specially the fast bowlers.

 

If you burn a candle from both sides it will finish sooner. More so for a country like India where NCA experts are clueless about even a minor injury.

[Nikhil_cric]

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Means all teams are run by idiots because no team does that. 

And those teams are also suffering now. 

 

Hazlewood's injuries started multiplying the very year he started taking on a heavier T20 workload. 

 

Saffer bowlers are breaking down faster than ever.   

 

Atkinson and Carse are clocking lower speeds after multi format workloads etc. 

[rkt.india]

6 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Format specific teams is the need of hour.

Specially the fast bowlers.

 

If you burn a candle from both sides it will finish sooner. More so for a country like India where NCA experts are clueless about even a minor injury.

I agree with all but no team is doing that in reality.

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

I agree with all but no team is doing that in reality.

Ap sahi farma rahen hain sahab kyuki majdooro(fast bowlers) toh aate rahenge par Pushpa (Bumrah) type majdoor toh apko once in a generation hi milega

[Adamant]

Mark Wood is a mediocre bowler, a true pace bowling fan will never enjoy watching him bowl. Anyone who thinks that Wood is a good bowler doesn't understand fast bowling and just likes to look at the speedometer.

 

Mark Wood is basically a bowling machine which will hurl the ball at you at 150, gun barrel straight. There is no art in his bowling, no finesse and no junoon and unlike the bowling machine this guy can't even maintain a consistent line.

 

Its very easy to recognise if a person understands fast bowling or not, ask his opinion about Wood and if he praises him then be sure that this guy knows nothing.

 

A thoroughly mediocre, run of the mill, wayward bowler. I change the channel when he bowls, his bowling is that ugly. 

 

As expected though, the fans on ICT (who are pace starved) will orgasm at every 150 kph ball he throws. 

[rkt.india]

3 hours ago, Adamant said:

Mark Wood is a mediocre bowler, a true pace bowling fan will never enjoy watching him bowl. Anyone who thinks that Wood is a good bowler doesn't understand fast bowling and just likes to look at the speedometer.

 

Mark Wood is basically a bowling machine which will hurl the ball at you at 150, gun barrel straight. There is no art in his bowling, no finesse and no junoon and unlike the bowling machine this guy can't even maintain a consistent line.

 

Its very easy to recognise if a person understands fast bowling or not, ask his opinion about Wood and if he praises him then be sure that this guy knows nothing.

 

A thoroughly mediocre, run of the mill, wayward bowler. I change the channel when he bowls, his bowling is that ugly. 

 

As expected though, the fans on ICT (who are pace starved) will orgasm at every 150 kph ball he throws. 

Yes, Wood is an average bowler.  He isn't in the league of Brett Lee and Shoaib Akhtar as a wicket taker.