Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Vk1]

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

Sometimes I feel these guys are too awed by the opposition and 90's Pakistan as if they're an alien.

 

Was watching a discussion on cricinfo where Manju was harping about Pakistan and Imran Khan...Kumble just pointed out saying I know you are obsessed with Imran. Manjrekar had no answer but to give a sheepish smile.

In harsha's case its to attract the Pak fans. He always seems desperate for attention 

[vishalvirsingh]

in bcci.tv ..how do i see the Speeds of Harshit rana and Shammi???

can someone guide please...

[tapandrun]

15 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

in bcci.tv ..how do i see the Speeds of Harshit rana and Shammi???

can someone guide please...

not sure non-ind hosted match will have hawk-wye option.

bt  there is the porcess bcci  site--> click on match  score card-->match centre -->> hawk-eye

[Vk1]

The two Ghaandu Paandus of Indian cricket Manju and Harsha.. did so much PR for Pakistan bowlers over the years.. must be crying inconsolably in restrooms.

[vishalvirsingh]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

not sure non-ind hosted match will have hawk-wye option.

bt  there is the porcess bcci  site--> click on match  score card-->match centre -->> hawk-eye

i found match centre and score card but no hawk eye

, you try out for today's india pak match and send the link for speed watch

[Suhaan]

Harsha  Bhonkle bkl always gets to call out crucial moments in the game

Thank God it was Ian Smith who was calling the excitement we had in the last couple of overs in last t20wc final

 

[Teengunalagaan]

5 hours ago, express bowling said:

Oor bowlers are not trying to take wickets and trying to be economical.

 

Will bite us in the ass later. 

I can't understand why Varun is not playing, we are clearly lacking wicket taking options in the middle.

 

Kuldeep does not have same bite.

[Chamsi]

1 hour ago, Teengunalagaan said:

I can't understand why Varun is not playing, we are clearly lacking wicket taking options in the middle.

 

Kuldeep does not have same bite.

KD was the highest wicket taker today, but I agree with your assessments. He won’t be successful against Klaasen and Miller types. Arshdeep has racked up good pace in the Eng ODI’s, better than mistry spinners and chinamen.

[Need4Speed]

I only saw India's batting... How did Harshit bowl today..I saw good eco rate but any other highlights of his bowling worth mentioning..?

[tapandrun]

2 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

i found match centre and score card but no hawk eye

, you try out for today's india pak match and send the link for speed watch

do nt think non-bcci broadcast matches will have hawk eye in , in match centre you will see a red button 'hawk eye' if its there

[tapandrun]

8 hours ago, express bowling said:

Bhogle talking about 140 k+ by Shaheen.

 

Won't do so for Indian quicks. 

have been mentioning this  for sometime now, Ind commentators are unbearable to listen and then they do not say anthing good when Ind bowlers are cranking it up.

But goes ga-ga over some1 who has not touched 140 kmph regularly for 3-4 years now.

 

Think in this particular case he just wanted to make Great Pak fast bowling vs Great Ind batting due to lacklustre 1st innings 

[singhvivek141]

8 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

I only saw India's batting... How did Harshit bowl today..I saw good eco rate but any other highlights of his bowling worth mentioning..?

Whatever little I saw 

 

1. Pace is up and down...sometimes he will bowl an entire over in 140-146, next over he will bowl 130-135. Siraj type vibes

 

2. His control is better when he bowls slightly back of length at pace.

 

3. Slower one he is super confident. Was bowling it at will and Pak batters have no clue. Though it remains to be seen how Australians deal with that, as they don't hack blindly.

 

4. Yorkers need improvement. He didn't attempt which isn't right IMO vs tailenders. You have to scare them and get them out.

 

 

[Mariyam]

Our bowling doesn't look very threatening.

 

Only Ha Pa and Axar looked dangerous that too at times.

 

So far we haven't played a strong batting line up. Makes me wonder what will happen to our attack once Bumrah retires. 

[Teengunalagaan]

11 hours ago, Chamsi said:

KD was the highest wicket taker today, but I agree with your assessments. He won’t be successful against Klaasen and Miller types. Arshdeep has racked up good pace in the Eng ODI’s, better than mistry spinners and chinamen.

KD is a good bowler, but he isn't in great form, and Varun has been doing really well, he is been getting wickets in the middle overs. Arshdeep can come in place of Harshit/Shami, he will do well with the new ball and in death but I don't think pacers have enough penetration to pick wickets in the middle overs on this wicket, Varun can solve that problem.

[cowboysfan]

Jaddu and Axar are just not wicket taking bowlers in LOI cricket,there are there only because they can bat and our fast bowlers cant hold the bat

[Need4Speed]

11 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Whatever little I saw 

 

1. Pace is up and down...sometimes he will bowl an entire over in 140-146, next over he will bowl 130-135. Siraj type vibes

 

2. His control is better when he bowls slightly back of length at pace.

 

3. Slower one he is super confident. Was bowling it at will and Pak batters have no clue. Though it remains to be seen how Australians deal with that, as they don't hack blindly.

 

4. Yorkers need improvement. He didn't attempt which isn't right IMO vs tailenders. You have to scare them and get them out.

 

 

We have seen how English players batted against Shami and Harshit in India..but batting conditions were batter..

as far as Rana is concerned..whatever is the result..I am happy he is getting good learninge xperience..as we need to groom him..

 I am sure he will develop some good wrist position\flick of the wrist  to generate outward movement too to make him effective in PP.and even work on his yorkers for death as well..

[tapandrun]

Nahid Rana(bd) touched 149 kmph vs nz.

 

A thought for ODIs bowling - will the teams will pivot towards v.tall pace bowlers as most of the matches in SC are effected by dew and pitches are already batting friendly.

with v.tall bowlers if there is something in the wkt they can utilize it, if it is flat they can still use the use and make driving and stroke making un-easy for batters and they use slow bouncers when batters are looking to for 4/6 and if & when the dew comes these kind of bowler would be even harder to face they already have extra bounce and then ball skidding off the wkt would make stroke making v.difficult and forcing batters to play high risk cut and hook and pull

[rkt.india]

22 hours ago, Mariyam said:

Our bowling doesn't look very threatening.

 

Only Ha Pa and Axar looked dangerous that too at times.

 

So far we haven't played a strong batting line up. Makes me wonder what will happen to our attack once Bumrah retires. 

Bumrah is good 5-6 years away from retiring. Has good fitness levels too.

[singhvivek141]

4 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Nahid Rana(bd) touched 149 kmph vs nz.

 

A thought for ODIs bowling - will the teams will pivot towards v.tall pace bowlers as most of the matches in SC are effected by dew and pitches are already batting friendly.

with v.tall bowlers if there is something in the wkt they can utilize it, if it is flat they can still use the use and make driving and stroke making un-easy for batters and they use slow bouncers when batters are looking to for 4/6 and if & when the dew comes these kind of bowler would be even harder to face they already have extra bounce and then ball skidding off the wkt would make stroke making v.difficult and forcing batters to play high risk cut and hook and pull

SENA countries mostly favour tall bowlers.

 

Its the problem with Asian countries where tall bowlers don't get much purchase in the domestics and hence arent considered (unless they do well in IPL or have some x factor).

 

Unless, Indian domestic system find a way to reduce the dependency on swing and produce bouncy pitches, tall bowlers will have to fight the odds to get selected.

[rkt.india]

On 2/24/2025 at 9:49 AM, singhvivek141 said:

Whatever little I saw 

 

1. Pace is up and down...sometimes he will bowl an entire over in 140-146, next over he will bowl 130-135. Siraj type vibes

 

2. His control is better when he bowls slightly back of length at pace.

 

3. Slower one he is super confident. Was bowling it at will and Pak batters have no clue. Though it remains to be seen how Australians deal with that, as they don't hack blindly.

 

4. Yorkers need improvement. He didn't attempt which isn't right IMO vs tailenders. You have to scare them and get them out.

 

 

The kind of action and runup he has, his pace will remain inconsistent.