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In the first spell today, Bumrah just placed the ball there at gentle medium pace.

 

Ran in gingerly. No intensity or pace 

 

We have seen this frequently since the 4th test in England. Saw it in the Asia Cup too 

 

If he is not fully fit or not fully motivated then why is he not taking a 3 to 4 month break  !!

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42 minutes ago, express bowling said:

In the first spell today, Bumrah just placed the ball there at gentle medium pace.

 

Ran in gingerly. No intensity or pace 

 

We have seen this frequently since the 4th test in England. Saw it in the Asia Cup too 

 

If he is not fully fit or not fully motivated then why is he not taking a 3 to 4 month break  !!

He wants to take it but bcci morans are not allowing him:facepalm:

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18 hours ago, express bowling said:

In the first spell today, Bumrah just placed the ball there at gentle medium pace.

 

Ran in gingerly. No intensity or pace 

 

We have seen this frequently since the 4th test in England. Saw it in the Asia Cup too 

 

If he is not fully fit or not fully motivated then why is he not taking a 3 to 4 month break  !!

Lack of warmup.

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On 10/11/2025 at 3:15 PM, express bowling said:

In the first spell today, Bumrah just placed the ball there at gentle medium pace.

 

Ran in gingerly. No intensity or pace 

 

We have seen this frequently since the 4th test in England. Saw it in the Asia Cup too 

 

If he is not fully fit or not fully motivated then why is he not taking a 3 to 4 month break  !!

I was at Korla last couple of days. Was in the stand right behind the end from which Bumrah bowled (Old Club House). The overall intensity in not just Bumrah but generally in the squad was a notch lower, expected given the quality of opposition.

 

Both the days neither Bumrah nor Siraj were running in with full intensity, did bowl some pacy deliveries towards the end of the WI 1st innings though. Absolute lack of pace or bounce on the pitch or reverse swing is the likely reason. Every throw was on one bounce to the keeper to rough up the ball but nothing happened.

 

Generally Bumrah did appear to be a bit unfit and aloof. He did field throughout the day and a half though. Did his own drills without speaking much to the coaching staff before or after the play started. Should not travel to Australia for the bilateral T20Is and play only tests for now.

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1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

I was at Korla last couple of days. Was in the stand right behind the end from which Bumrah bowled (Old Club House). The overall intensity in not just Bumrah but generally in the squad was a notch lower, expected given the quality of opposition.

 

Both the days neither Bumrah nor Siraj were running in with full intensity, did bowl some pacy deliveries towards the end of the WI 1st innings though. Absolute lack of pace or bounce on the pitch or reverse swing is the likely reason. Every throw was on one bounce to the keeper to rough up the ball but nothing happened.

 

Generally Bumrah did appear to be a bit unfit and aloof. He did field throughout the day and a half though. Did his own drills without speaking much to the coaching staff before or after the play started. Should not travel to Australia for the bilateral T20Is and play only tests for now.

Don't think he will play tests for long. Test bowling is a demanding task nowadays because of the habit of bowling 4 overs.

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1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Don't think he will play tests for long. Test bowling is a demanding task nowadays because of the habit of bowling 4 overs.


Bumrah may drag himself till WTC 2027, probably will retire post that.
Even Siraj post 2027 WTC will be on the loaned time, don't think he will survive till 2029-30.
 

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12 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Don't think he will play tests for long. Test bowling is a demanding task nowadays because of the habit of bowling 4 overs.

Upto Agarkar and Gambhir how they want to use him. Bilateral T20Is and ODIs should be a no. Two back to back tests vs WI should have been avoided as well, despite much lower workload. 

 

Shot a few videos of Bumrah's bowling (from right behind his end above the sight screen), one noticeable difference is the shoulder effort he used to put in earlier is no longer the same. Will try to upload the videos on a drive and share the link here 

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14 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Don't think he will play tests for long. Test bowling is a demanding task nowadays because of the habit of bowling 4 overs.

And I dont think he will leave Test cricket ever. Bumrah wants to be all time great. You can read this post, after 5 yrs and you will believe it. 

It is just lack of intensity because of low level cricket. 

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On 10/13/2025 at 11:59 AM, ShoonyaSifar said:

Upto Agarkar and Gambhir how they want to use him. Bilateral T20Is and ODIs should be a no. Two back to back tests vs WI should have been avoided as well, despite much lower workload. 

 

Shot a few videos of Bumrah's bowling (from right behind his end above the sight screen), one noticeable difference is the shoulder effort he used to put in earlier is no longer the same. Will try to upload the videos on a drive and share the link here 

Bhurah has been bad since Asia cup, was neither fast nor his line length up there. Was bowling fulltosses and half-vollies.

He needs game time, its okay if he played this low end of the test series as he would not need to be in full tilt and pushing and can work his rhythm in these low demanding games 

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On 10/13/2025 at 9:29 PM, ShoonyaSifar said:

Upto Agarkar and Gambhir how they want to use him. Bilateral T20Is and ODIs should be a no. Two back to back tests vs WI should have been avoided as well, despite much lower workload. 

 

Shot a few videos of Bumrah's bowling (from right behind his end above the sight screen), one noticeable difference is the shoulder effort he used to put in earlier is no longer the same. Will try to upload the videos on a drive and share the link here 

Pretty sure bumrah was taking it easy intentionally because of this being a low level series.

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On 10/13/2025 at 9:29 PM, ShoonyaSifar said:

Upto Agarkar and Gambhir how they want to use him. Bilateral T20Is and ODIs should be a no. Two back to back tests vs WI should have been avoided as well, despite much lower workload. 

 

Shot a few videos of Bumrah's bowling (from right behind his end above the sight screen), one noticeable difference is the shoulder effort he used to put in earlier is no longer the same. Will try to upload the videos on a drive and share the link here 

Bilateral T20 and odis has to be played too. You can't straight away come and play a big tournament. Regular Match practice is required for that particular format as demands in every format is different. The question is they will have to decide if they want him to play in all formats or not. You can't pick and choose. They have to decide what format he has to quit completely even from big tournaments. If he quits from ODI, let him stay away from ODIs altogether, no picking him in the WC too.

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30 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Forget about Ranji, if our ex cricket analyst is to believed, even ICT under GG are not going in the right direction 

 

https://x.com/himganj153/status/1978348030454624676?t=nhnV_glMqgHo9EqR3zCQqQ&s=19

And you trust this ex-analyst? Hari Prasad Mohan is the Performance Analyst and was very much with the team (along with two video analysts) during the recent series or earlier in England. Saw them sitting in the dugout with their laptops and cameras at Kotla. In fact Kuldeep and Varun C thanked Hari publicly after the Asia Cup win.

 

But I guess anything goes in the name of being critical of the current TM.

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